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Old 07-17-2018, 01:51 PM   #1
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For those of you who stayed tuned all the time can you make a list of everything Trump has been accused of and the evidence to support them?

Seems like every day I hear something new that people fall for....But I've yet to see any actual evidence or proof. And I try to avoid TV LOL

Or maybe make the accusation list and then let never-Trumpers put in the proof/evidence. See if any reply.
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:52 PM   #2
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He's a meany and hurts people's feelings.
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:57 PM   #3
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Don't get me wrong Trump is my guy... now that he's the prez and is doing some grrrreat stuff but do I believe for a second he's pure as the wind driven snow?.... Ah, no I don't.
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This is the first list that came up for me when I google it. Wow this guy should be in jail.
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I see the last one is rape. No way could he have raped her. The main reason is she could run faster with her dress up than he could with his pants down. I rest my case.


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I’m in the middle on politics, but dad sent me this the other day and I thought it was entertaining. Probably not unforeseen by some people, but a backfire nonetheless.

This little commodity/tariff deal is putting the screws to a lot of people that I know. Hard for us not to think it’s a move to turn farming into even MORE of a big business. The “Little guys” (that aren’t really little) are dropping like flies.
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I'm still waiting......

Asked the same question on a different thread and got no reply also.
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I’m in the middle on politics, but dad sent me this the other day and I thought it was entertaining. Probably not unforeseen by some people, but a backfire nonetheless.

This little commodity/tariff deal is putting the screws to a lot of people that I know. Hard for us not to think it’s a move to turn farming into even MORE of a big business. The “Little guys” (that aren’t really little) are dropping like flies.
Are the "little guys" seeing any improvements since this post?
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:49 PM   #9
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I manufacture a product made of steel here in Texas.
I shouldn't worry about import tariffs right?...
Wrong. My manufacturing cost have gone up 23% because of them.

However, I'm willing to concede that it's fear based price hikes more than directly due to additional taxes (aka tarrifs.)

Like it or not we do live in a global economy and the dollars spent don't magically turn into yen they get redistributed in a million ways back into our economy.
Plus the American consumer reaps the benefits from lower prices and has more discretionary income.

Do I wish the rest of the wold played fair? of course. Is a trade war the answer...? I don't think it is.
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Are the "little guys" seeing any improvements since this post?
No.

As a matter of fact, I’ve talked to three people in the last week that said they wouldn’t be voting for him again. These are your typical white male conservatives that are jumping ship.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:05 PM   #11
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I hear nothing but static.
Trump is doing the right things for this country, things that will make us strong in the end.

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:48 PM   #12
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No.

As a matter of fact, I’ve talked to three people in the last week that said they wouldn’t be voting for him again. These are your typical white male conservatives that are jumping ship.
So they are going to vote for whatever crazy liberal the Democrats put up? More taxes and more control of our personal lives?

Or are they just not going to vote?
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So they are going to vote for whatever crazy liberal the Democrats put up? More taxes and more control of our personal lives?

Or are they just not going to vote?
I’m sure those individuals will probably vote Democrat like they have in the past (Bill and prior, at least).

I used the opportunity to ask them what they thought about third party candidates, but like many folks their age, they’re stuck in the two-party mentality...even though their stance is very moderate.

Democrats have historically been good for our area, particularly at the state level. None of these guys would be caught dead with a Hillary sticker or the like, but they’re also smart enough to know that the “lower your taxes” talk is pretty meaningless, as it’s proved to be so far under Trump.
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The tariffs are starting to pinch & China needs to bend soon...we can hold out longer than they can & I do agree we have been getting the short end, but does not negate the fact it is starting to hit big mfg.

The Mexico deal appears to be a good start, but until we negotiate a deal with China...it will continue to get more painful. I do hope Trump gets his deal as it's way overdue.
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Texansfan will be along shortly with facts I’m sure.........
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Make America great again as long as it doesn't inconvenience not one single American in the process.... Sigh.

Gunnart I do the same thing as you with steel from China for hunting/fishing products. China is feeling the heat for sure. Will be spending October over there with the factories. They are all crapping bricks and taking a big losses.
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Make America great again as long as it doesn't inconvenience not one single American in the process.... Sigh.

Gunnart I do the same thing as you with steel from China for hunting/fishing products. China is feeling the heat for sure. Will be spending October over there with the factories. They are all crapping bricks and taking a big losses.
China will flinch first. Trump knows this. He the first President we have had in a long time that doesn’t wear panties.
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Make America great again as long as it doesn't inconvenience not one single American in the process.... Sigh.

Gunnart I do the same thing as you with steel from China for hunting/fishing products. China is feeling the heat for sure. Will be spending October over there with the factories. They are all crapping bricks and taking a big losses.
That sums it up.

America has had the short end of the stick for a long time..too long. People are just too short sighted.

And I don't believe for a second that a conservative that hated Hillary and what she stood for now dislikes Trump enough to vote for the next democrat. And I still have not heard why they dislike Trump.
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That sums it up.

America has had the short end of the stick for a long time..too long. People are just too short sighted.

And I don't believe for a second that a conservative that hated Hillary and what she stood for now dislikes Trump enough to vote for the next democrat. And I still have not heard why they dislike Trump.
It’s Arkansas. They gifted us the Clintons. Nuff said.
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That sums it up.

America has had the short end of the stick for a long time..too long. People are just too short sighted.

And I don't believe for a second that a conservative that hated Hillary and what she stood for now dislikes Trump enough to vote for the next democrat. And I still have not heard why they dislike Trump.
see post #2, pretty much sums it up.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:55 AM   #21
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I'm conservative to the core. Trump is not. Of course I support him especially over anything the Dem's cough up, but I think we need an ideological conservative not just a bomb thrower for the sake of shaking things up.
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I'm conservative to the core. Trump is not. Of course I support him especially over anything the Dem's cough up, but I think we need an ideological conservative not just a bomb thrower for the sake of shaking things up.
Asking them nicely - No worky
Trying to ideologically reason with them - No Worky
Trying to work out a better deal - No Worky
Calling them out of the world stage - No Worky
Its bomb throwing time.

We haven't shaking things up in a long time..thats why we are in the position we are in.
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Asking them nicely - No worky
Trying to ideologically reason with them - No Worky
Trying to work out a better deal - No Worky
Calling them out of the world stage - No Worky
Its bomb throwing time.

We haven't shaking things up in a long time..thats why we are in the position we are in.
Drop mic and walk off the stage.
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Asking them nicely - No worky
Trying to ideologically reason with them - No Worky
Trying to work out a better deal - No Worky
Calling them out of the world stage - No Worky
Its bomb throwing time.

We haven't shaking things up in a long time..thats why we are in the position we are in.
End of story!! It's been bomb dropping time way before Trump imo.
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I dont like Lying Cheaters that make bad Business deals. Those are all facts.
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I'm conservative to the core. Trump is not. Of course I support him especially over anything the Dem's cough up, but I think we need an ideological conservative not just a bomb thrower for the sake of shaking things up.
Name one senator, rep or president in last 50 years that has done more Conservation things then President Trump has.
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He's been accused of saying the US is going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it.
Almost two years into his presidency and no wall and no indication that Mexico will pay for it.

Hopefully one day we'll get a President that does what he/she says. I don't care if he/she is blue or red.
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I dont like Lying Cheaters that make bad Business deals. Those are all facts.
Starting to see the lies and terrorist deals with the Obama administration
I knew you would eventually way to go JJ!
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Starting to see the lies and terrorist deals with the Obama administration
I knew you would eventually way to go JJ!
Haha - finally saw the light
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Thank God you are finally coming around. Have a seat on the Trump Train!
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Thank God you are finally coming around. Have a seat on the Trump Train!
My conductor hat and train whistle are ready
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Stormy Daniels recently had some extremely critical and unkind things to say about Trump's anatomy and his lack of prowess in bed. I guess you'd just have to talk to Stormy about "proof". LOL !!


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Isnt she trying to sell a book too Bob?

In it she also states that Don wanted her on the Apprentice. And he wanted her to cheat, to win. Does that even make sense? A mushroom character in Mario Kart, tell me you dont think she came up with that?

“We’ll figure out a way to get you the challenges beforehand,” she quotes him as saying. “And we can devise your technique.”

“He was going to have me cheat, and it was 100 percent his idea.”
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Trump train ��
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He's been accused of saying the US is going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it.
Almost two years into his presidency and no wall and no indication that Mexico will pay for it.

Hopefully one day we'll get a President that does what he/she says. I don't care if he/she is blue or red.
He didn't lie about it, he just thought that the Republicans would help him out instead of wimping out on it.
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Isnt she trying to sell a book too Bob?

In it she also states that Don wanted her on the Apprentice. And he wanted her to cheat, to win. Does that even make sense? A mushroom character in Mario Kart, tell me you dont think she came up with that?

“We’ll figure out a way to get you the challenges beforehand,” she quotes him as saying. “And we can devise your technique.”

“He was going to have me cheat, and it was 100 percent his idea.”
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If an affair is supposed to make him untrustworthy and disgusting, why is JFK held in such high regard?
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Very good question
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Asking them nicely - No worky
Trying to ideologically reason with them - No Worky
Trying to work out a better deal - No Worky
Calling them out of the world stage - No Worky
Its bomb throwing time.

We haven't shaking things up in a long time..thats why we are in the position we are in.
fair point
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I may not have been clear in my earlier post.

Stormy is out promoting her new book. In the book she claims to have had an affair with Trump in 2007, which she never told her hubby and babies daddy about. So she went public with the news, right before the election, now stay with me here....to avoid being attacked. But instead it lead to her divorce.

The crux of the book follows Daniels’ decision to go public with her story about Trump just before the election, after years of hiding the affair, she writes, from her then-husband. Going public meant that she and her daughter would be less vulnerable to attack, she reasoned.

Stormy goes on to talk about how Hillary Clinton called while her and Don were watching Shark Week and Clinton and Donnie talked about the Obama/Clinton race.

Weren't some of yall ready to bet the house that this lady had concrete proof of an affair, that she was going to bring down the POTUS? I would guess that now is as good as time as any to, you know, bring some proof to the table.

“Then, to make it crazier, Hillary Clinton called,” Daniels writes. “He had a whole conversation about the race, repeatedly mentioning ‘our plan’ ...

“Even while he was on the phone with Hillary, his attention kept going back to the sharks.”


JFK, pffffft. Billdo, had sexual relations in the WH, had DNA evidence to prove it, and he lied to the world about it. Then the DNC trotted out Monica's side pieces wife for president after they stuck it to Bernie. Yes, lying and cheating is a part of DC, but man there is kind of like a mountain of concrete evidence on one side of the isle and a washed up P star, and a vagina hat wearing nut with no evidence on the other.
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Doesn't matter that much to me one way or the other, but just shows more of one's character. But do you really think they did not have an affair of some sort? Why do you keep trying to defend it? It either did or didn't happen. Don paid her a large amount of money and then lied about it. That is not concrete proof but it is telling. And then some worn out ol' pron star is trying to make a buck off of it. She's done a lot more for a dollar in her life that I'm sure was much "harder" or more difficult lol.
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He didn't lie about it, he just thought that the Republicans would help him out instead of wimping out on it.
Trump with all his faults has been the one potus I've seen that is actually busting his hump to follow through with his campaign promises & been quite successful.

To fault him for the wall is a typical left tactic who is not interested or ignorant in the process...he cannot do anything without congress in this situation. That comment was disingenuous or simply doesn't the facts. If Trump could EO the wall, he would have done it I reckon.

You are correct amigo, the republicans certainly need to step up in regards to the wall...the mid-terms will pretty much dictate the future of the success.
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As much as I'd like to see it built, I think it's naive to think it was ever going to happen. Just red meat for his constituents.
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But do you really think they did not have an affair of some sort?
Honestly, no. Not an affair. Nor of some sort. I am not saying that Don has been faithful at all times, I just dont think he is going to be playing around with gutter trash if he does. Furthermore I kind of have this thing about trusting P stars.

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Why do you keep trying to defend it?
I really only chinned in on this thread, due to Bobs post. And I didnt defend anyone in it. I just asked some obvious questions, that no body answered. But yea, the more that Stormy (and her lawyer) opens her mouth and tells her story, while not providing any facts what so ever, it makes her less believable.
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Stormy Daniels recently had some extremely critical and unkind things to say about Trump's anatomy and his lack of prowess in bed. I guess you'd just have to talk to Stormy about "proof". LOL !!


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Somebdoy paid her a lot of money because they thought she was believable. Don doesn't seem like the type to pay off worn out hookers that don't have any dirt on him. But maybe he is
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A lot of money to you and me, maybe.

Flip it the other way, if she did have concrete proof she banged the sitting POTUS (that a whole lot of people want to dethrone) why sell it for $130K? What would that be worth in todays dollars?

Paula Jones got $800K...

Seems like Donnie is a deal man

One of yall send me Stormys book when you are done reading it
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I'm sure all the ones you have paid over the years would sing praises about ol boblee!!
My first thought.
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Dont know if this is too racey, but I thought it was hilarious. Seems like the interwebs is having a pretty time with the latest Stormys stories.
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