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Old 07-15-2018, 02:38 PM   #1
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Thinking about deleting a '13 F250 with 60,000 miles on it. For the guys who have done it/ have experience with it, any negatives to doing a delete? Issues with inspection?

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Old 07-15-2018, 02:44 PM   #2
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Bought mine with it already done. Havenít had an issue with inspection.


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Old 07-15-2018, 02:57 PM   #3
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Just make sure you go with a reputable tuner. I’ve running both PPEI and Tyrant for tunes on my 17 F-350, and I’m not a fan of PPEIs transmission tuning at all. I don’t play with the hot tunes at all, just want a good low power daily driving tune that can hook up to a trailer. Tyrant seems to have their transmission tuning on point, but it was a little Smokey for my liking.
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Old 07-15-2018, 03:23 PM   #4
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I PROMISE you will not regret it.
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Old 07-15-2018, 04:17 PM   #5
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No regrets here
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Old 07-15-2018, 06:07 PM   #6
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One negative I can think of is when it comes time to unload it, although the tuner and mods cost you money upfront (and improve the reliability and lifespan of your engine) the dealers will supposedly offer you less at trade in time or decline the deal altogether.

I've read this isn't an issue so much when you pass 100k on the clock though as most of those vehicles usually go to a whole seller or auction.

I often wonder how to handle selling one outright - does one have to disclose the vehicle is somewhat lighter than it used to be, or sell it as "offroad use only"?

What I'm trying to say is if you plan on keeping it forever then going through with it is a decent enough plan- if you plan on moving on in a couple of years or aren't known for keeping vehicles a long time then you might want to save your money and the headache that might pop up when swapping out.

For those who say "just put it back to stock"-

I've personally deleted, blocked off and swapped pipes and in no way shape or form would look forward to undoing all that mess. Besides, I doubt the DEF pump or tank are happy to get back to work after a few years of retirement.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:14 PM   #7
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Don't regret doing mine.
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:58 AM   #8
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Next question would be: any recommendations for someone to do it around DFW? Ballpark price after it’s all said and done with tune?
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:31 AM   #9
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I'm thinking about deleting my '16 in the near future. Any contacts that can do this work around the Houston / Baytown area? Plus the gong rate for this work $$?
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Next question would be: any recommendations for someone to do it around DFW? Ballpark price after itís all said and done with tune?
David Boone with 3rd Coast Diesel in McKinney... heís deleted all my families trucks. Heís a good dude!!

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Old 07-16-2018, 08:09 AM   #11
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I'm thinking about deleting my '16 in the near future. Any contacts that can do this work around the Houston / Baytown area? Plus the gong rate for this work $$?
PowerStroke Enginuities is out of Houston, and does good work. $1800-2500 ballpark.
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:27 AM   #12
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be ready to deal with it again when you sell it.

Had a friend that did this-- and when he was selling they were about done with the deal it came up, it cost cash to get it back to stock- Im no expert but believe at the time it was illegal and bc of the texas clean air act he was threatened with a 25k fine... Just know where you need to go for inpections etc. and you should be fine
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:40 AM   #13
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PowerStroke Enginuities is out of Houston, and does good work. $1800-2500 ballpark.
I appreciate the info. I'll give them a call. Thanks!
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:51 AM   #14
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Powerstroke Enginuities out of Houston for the tune on a 6.7
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:21 AM   #15
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Just make sure you go with a reputable tuner. Iíve running both PPEI and Tyrant for tunes on my 17 F-350, and Iím not a fan of PPEIs transmission tuning at all. I donít play with the hot tunes at all, just want a good low power daily driving tune that can hook up to a trailer. Tyrant seems to have their transmission tuning on point, but it was a little Smokey for my liking.
I run tyrant on my 17 as well. Which file are you running? He has a clean version and a smokey (low boost fueling) version of each file. I also just talked to Cale on the phone and he is going to be adding a version thats in between the two. A *medium* smoke version. Still get the low end throttle response to spool the turbo but less smoke.

Also I run the medium raised shift points and love it. Cale definitely has the transmission tuning on point.

OP you won't regret it.
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Old 07-16-2018, 10:04 AM   #16
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I run tyrant on my 17 as well. Which file are you running? He has a clean version and a smokey (low boost fueling) version of each file. I also just talked to Cale on the phone and he is going to be adding a version thats in between the two. A *medium* smoke version. Still get the low end throttle response to spool the turbo but less smoke.

Also I run the medium raised shift points and love it. Cale definitely has the transmission tuning on point.

OP you won't regret it.
When towing with cruise control is the downhill speed control super sensitive? Every since I tuned mine it downshifts way sooner to control speed than it used to.
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Old 07-16-2018, 10:07 AM   #17
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When towing with cruise control is the downhill speed control super sensitive? Every since I tuned mine it downshifts way sooner to control speed than it used to.
Are you meaning the exhaust brake? Downhill decent doesn't work on speeds above 10 mph I thought.
My exhaust brake works so much better after deleting. But Cale did tell me he hasn't been able to find the exhaust brake map yet so when that is on it uses the factory shift points. When I have tow/haul on and the exhaust brake on full (not auto) and going down a hill it will downshift quick and slow me down fast.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:31 AM   #18
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I run tyrant on my 17 as well. Which file are you running? He has a clean version and a smokey (low boost fueling) version of each file. I also just talked to Cale on the phone and he is going to be adding a version thats in between the two. A *medium* smoke version. Still get the low end throttle response to spool the turbo but less smoke.

Also I run the medium raised shift points and love it. Cale definitely has the transmission tuning on point.

OP you won't regret it.

I ran about 3 different files from Tyrant. Not sure exactly which ones, but I know I tried both the Smokey and clean versions. None of them were over 100 hp. I need to update again, and give them another try. Iím not happy with PPEI, and everything I hear from Tyrant customers is excellent.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:43 AM   #19
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Are you meaning the exhaust brake? Downhill decent doesn't work on speeds above 10 mph I thought.

My exhaust brake works so much better after deleting. But Cale did tell me he hasn't been able to find the exhaust brake map yet so when that is on it uses the factory shift points. When I have tow/haul on and the exhaust brake on full (not auto) and going down a hill it will downshift quick and slow me down fast.


Whether Exhaust Brake is on or not it will downshift if you get 3-4 mph over what cruise is set to.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:55 AM   #20
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I ran about 3 different files from Tyrant. Not sure exactly which ones, but I know I tried both the Smokey and clean versions. None of them were over 100 hp. I need to update again, and give them another try. Iím not happy with PPEI, and everything I hear from Tyrant customers is excellent.
Yeah I've been very happy with Tyrant. One of the first tunes I ran from him had a little higher of a rev upon start up so I messaged him about it. In less than an hour I had a new tune written, sent, and uploaded to my truck.

Did you not do the shift on the fly switch?
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:57 AM   #21
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Whether Exhaust Brake is on or not it will downshift if you get 3-4 mph over what cruise is set to.
I haven't had that issue. But I haven't towed with more than 5000-6000 pounds yet.
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:48 PM   #22
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PowerStroke Enginuities is out of Houston, and does good work. $1800-2500 ballpark.
Does that $ figure include the tunes (everything)?
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:49 PM   #23
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Yes. Mine was $1680 with me doing the work, BUT I purchased the most expensive tuning device that I’ve seen. Tuner with tune profiles was $1300. Delete kit itself was less than $400. There are guys out installing tunes and delete starting around $1700-1800. It just depends on which tunes you want to use, and if you want a fancy tuner vs just a basic delete tune.
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