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Old 06-12-2013, 09:51 PM   #1
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He basically promotes Lower Bow poundage
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:17 PM   #2
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Ted for President. Very good points.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:27 PM   #3
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I like it.I had a bad injury the second of January and I can't yet pull my bow back(which is currently 56 lbs )I'm thinkin bout turning it down ,sighting it in and shootin some.I've been wondering bout what broadheads would insure good penetration and pass through at lower poundage.
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ted has been preaching lower poundage for years. i can shoot 70#'s with the rest of ya, but i am quite content in the low 50's now. for what i do and the animals i hunt, that's all i personally need.
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I haven't built a bow, recurve or longbow (on purpose) over#50 in almost 10 years.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:19 PM   #6
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Exactly why I have always shot 50-60# bows.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:29 PM   #7
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Yep, my main bow maxes out at 60, and it ain't maxed out.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:43 AM   #8
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I like the 60 range myself. I'll go down when I feel I need to.

I don't blame people for shooting heavy bows. If I could comfortably shoot 100-125 lb bows, I would. But there's no need.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:52 AM   #9
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:25 PM   #10
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I dropped mine from 70 to 55 and my accuracy went way up
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:42 PM   #11
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I used to shoot mine at ~65, then when I had my string replaced and it was set about a turn over all they way down...it sure is a lot more fun to shoot.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:49 PM   #12
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I have my 70lb bow set at 65 because that is what I can pull back comfortably. I do see people on tv a lot who appear to struggle to pull back. Don't understand it myself. Sure, I could pull back 70 but not nearly as smooth as I can at 65. Once I feel 65 isn't as smooth I won't hesitate to drop it further.
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:36 PM   #13
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Got a DXT at 65# and an Outback at 58--first 3-4 shots with the DXT are work, but with the Outback, smooth as can be. Got a set of 50-60 limbs for the DXT and will probably have them put on this summer.
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:37 PM   #14
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I shoot 72 lbs currently and am thinking about ordering 80lb limbs. I think you should shoot the maximum poundage you can easily pull back and hold and shoot comfortably, and that means shooting for 30minutes to an hour without fatigue or accuracy lost.

It seems it is more manly these days to shoot 40 lbs than 70. But if you are capable to shoot 70 and are shooting 50, it seems something is left on the table. On the flip side, if a shooter is shooting 70 lbs but can't pull it back smoothly and shoot accurately, he is doing himself a disservice.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:04 PM   #15
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I shoot 72 lbs currently and am thinking about ordering 80lb limbs. I think you should shoot the maximum poundage you can easily pull back and hold and shoot comfortably, and that means shooting for 30minutes to an hour without fatigue or accuracy lost.

It seems it is more manly these days to shoot 40 lbs than 70. But if you are capable to shoot 70 and are shooting 50, it seems something is left on the table. On the flip side, if a shooter is shooting 70 lbs but can't pull it back smoothly and shoot accurately, he is doing himself a disservice.
I feel the same way. I got 70# limbs on my ZXT, and I can shoot 70# just perfectly fine, so why not?
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Ya'l heard that Uncle Ted is now with Mathews, Quit Martin after all these years - check out the Mathews web site :- http://mathewsinc.com/582661/ted-nug...athews-family/
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good read.. thanks for posting
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Ted and I use the same meat processor.

He keeps a bowl of Teds and Shemanes arrow tips that break off in the deer that they bring in.


I neither agree nor disagree.
Good read
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:58 PM   #19
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New to archery but seems this argument is similar to gun calibers. Why shoot a 243 when you can shoot a 50cal. Why carry a 9mm when I can have a 45. I don't feel like I'm leaving anything on the table just because I'm not shooting the biggest or fastest. There are many other things that go into it.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:54 PM   #20
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New to archery but seems this argument is similar to gun calibers. Why shoot a 243 when you can shoot a 50cal. Why carry a 9mm when I can have a 45. I don't feel like I'm leaving anything on the table just because I'm not shooting the biggest or fastest. There are many other things that go into it.
Here is what I would perceive to be the difference. Distance. Shooting a rifle requires little to no movement and is typically over a much greater distance. With a bow you are shooting at an animal that is 20 yards away. The greater the poundage of the bow, the greater the possibility of strain and excess movement to draw, hold and shoot. The reason lower poundage might be desirable is the ease to draw that bow undetected.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:57 PM   #21
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shoot what you shoot accurately

Uncle Ted does that and it works . . . doesn't mean it works for me.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:14 PM   #22
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Ted and I use the same meat processor.

He keeps a bowl of Teds and Shemanes arrow tips that break off in the deer that they bring in.


I neither agree nor disagree.
Good read
you mean to tell me Ted doesn't use his Outdoor Edge and Foodsaver products on all his animals like he says he does ?

kill it and grill it
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:45 PM   #23
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im on the fence on this one. I can uderstand ease of draw...but wouldnt penetration be more desireable if you can?
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:55 PM   #24
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It seems like most (not all) of the folks that shoot higher poundage like to measure things in their pants alot.


" yeah man, I shoot 85#. Look how big mine is."


The deer aren't any deader.

Shoot what works best for you but more weight isn't always better.

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Old 07-12-2013, 01:20 PM   #25
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A friend in Las Vegas (owner of Pacific Archery) killed a 340 bull in Oregon three years ago with a 45# Z7. Arrow penetrated all the way through, bull ran 60 yds. Shot was about 45 yds.
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:43 PM   #26
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When I purchased my bow, they had set it at #55 so I could shoot several bows in one session and also adjust the one I had picked. After was all said and done, I asked them to push it to 60 and I just had the hardest time (granted I had drawn about 50 times that day.) I had them put it back to #55.

I kept thinking I was going to raise it as I got used to it, but then it dawned on me "what is the point?" I want something that I can pick up any day of the week and draw consistently like I had that day, when I had not pulled back a bow and was in my typical strength.

I have not moved it up or down, and don't plan on it now.
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:00 PM   #27
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Im very new to this, been shooting my bow I bought 1 week ago. I shot it at 53lbs and I shot so accurate that I went up to 65lbs.... now I shoot terrrible groups. From what I have gathered on this forum penetration is great but that comes second to accuracy. I went to 55lbs and shooting accurate again, that to me is more important. Am I right?
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:10 PM   #28
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Yea, on his show he shoots everything with low poundage.

My bow is only 55# but I had a complete passthrough on a Buffalo!
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Yep, my main bow maxes out at 60, and it ain't maxed out.
Me Too !!
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:20 PM   #30
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Lesson learned today:

set the bow to draw smoothly, practice, use good broad heads, and make a well placed shot !!

Sounds about right !!
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:20 PM   #31
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My bow is a 70 lb bow set at 63 lb's. Effortless to draw and hold. I see no need to go heavier.

And Ted isn't saying you need to shoot 40-50 lb's. He's saying draw what's easy and smooth. It makes perfect sense. Adding that couple extra pounds if it makes you struggle will not be helping.

And cranking it up to gain speed to "close the pin gap " is just trying to cover a lack of skill in judging distance... Something that has been one of the most important skills for archers

Rick perry's comment of "what should it be " as to minimum weight is what's wrong with lawmakers. They always think everything has to be legislated and regulated.

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http://www.stickemarchery.com/sticke...echnology.aspx



One of the major ways to increase the amount of stored energy during the power stroke is to shoot a compound bow with a higher maximum draw weight. All other things being equal, a 70 lb. bow will store more energy and shoot faster than a 60 lb. bow. The maximum draw weight of the bow is typically determined by the stiffness of the bow's limbs. Compound bows come in a variety of maximum draw weights, but the most common are the 50-60 lb. and 60-70 lb. versions. When you may purchase a bow with 70 lb. limbs, you can generally adjust the draw weight 1-10 lbs. down from the maximum weight. Keep in mind that a 70 lb. bow, turned down to 60 lbs., will not perform as well as the same bow in a 60 lb. version operating at it's maximum draw weight. Bows perform at their peak at or near their maximum draw weight.

good read

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Old 07-12-2013, 03:45 PM   #33
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My sister-in-law has killed a whitetail buck and a sika buck, both complete pass thru shots, both at or just under 20 yards, bow is set just under 40#, 100 grain Thunderheads. Not sure you need 70# draw weight for great penetration on deer in Texas.
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I agree with Ted on this one. It's very rare that I shoot at a archery range that isn't full of guys pulling way too much with poor form. If your pulling too much and can't keep it at least in the 8 ring is when I say it's time for a change. I also have no problem with guys shooting heavy bows as long as they don't brag about it or their arrow fps.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:49 AM   #36
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. Keep in mind that a 70 lb. bow, turned down to 60 lbs., will not perform as well as the same bow in a 60 lb. version operating at it's maximum draw weight. Bows perform at their peak at or near their maximum draw weight.

good read
This is actually no longer the case. Mathews would confirm this. Bow technology has come a very long way since that statement held water.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:36 AM   #37
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What does it really matter the amount of pounds your bow is set to if you shoot accurate and are comfortable??? Is bragging about shooting an 90 # bow any different than bragging about low pound bow pass thru??? Shoot what makes you the best archer and ultimately the best hunter... Mis dos centavos...
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:21 PM   #38
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I think bow weight has become misunderstood like the magnum craze with rifles. If you look at the effectiveness of the 30-06, then the WSM, win mag, Wby mag, 30cal Lazzeroni, and every other more powerful 30cal concoction is really only needed for flatter shooting at long distance.

Similarly to guys using a win mag for deer at 100yds, guys (even me) use 70lb bows for deer at 20.
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This is actually no longer the case. Mathews would confirm this. Bow technology has come a very long way since that statement held water.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:39 PM   #40
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Good read, and no doubt its a good idea for hunting whitetail. But I have been on a couple hunts where we are specifically pig hunting and someone shoots a pig and the arrow only goes a couple of inches. Yes, they probably hit that plate in the shoulder, but had they had their bows cranked, I think we would have recovered the animal.

Just something to keep in mind.
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I find it hard to believe that Perry understood Ted's explanation of Kinetic Energy
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:23 PM   #42
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I shoot 60 , the more lbs the more of a chance of getting hurt.
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:05 PM   #43
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todays new bows dosnt take much poundage any more
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:53 PM   #44
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No it doesn't take much poundage to kills deer these days.

But more poundage=bigger cutting diameter broadhead= more blood
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:20 PM   #45
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I haven't built a bow, recurve or longbow (on purpose) over#50 in almost 10 years.
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X2 on the 50 pounds.
I set that at my extreme . Many moons ago for hunting. I'm 78 and still have a good shoulder to thank for it. And still able to shoot.
You guys should have used are broad heads. And if that 50 pound recurve bow, had the broad heads available today. Oh my. [ Later
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Shoot what you can. Personally, my bow stays around 70 because I can draw it easily (especially with my new vector's rkt cams).
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:13 PM   #47
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I have 70# limbs and never have shot over 63#...I'm not buying a new bow yet but when I do it will not have 70# limbs.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:18 PM   #48
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Maybe I need to lower mine from 70#!!
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:05 PM   #49
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A friend in Las Vegas (owner of Pacific Archery) killed a 340 bull in Oregon three years ago with a 45# Z7. Arrow penetrated all the way through, bull ran 60 yds. Shot was about 45 yds.
Judy (Wannabe) killed a kudu and an eland with a 43 pound bow.
The kudu fell in sight, and the eland didn't go much further.

I shoot 64 lbs now, but my next bow will be a 60 pounder.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:32 PM   #50
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Guess that's why he switched to Mathews... I kid
Very knowledgeable person and good write up.
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