Originally posted by Bayouboy
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Considering Trumps past it is a little puzzling that Union members would support him. It is actually refreshing that people would vote their conscience and not just fall in line to what they are supposed to do. (I mean that as a general statement, because it certainly does not apply to only union members.)
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Originally posted by Kdog View PostConsidering Trumps past it is a little puzzling that Union members would support him. It is actually refreshing that people would vote their conscience and not just fall in line to what they are supposed to do. (I mean that as a general statement, because it certainly does not apply to only union members.)
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On the surface the dems say they aren't scared of Trump, as they'll throw out Billary v Trump has her winning nationally, so why would the left try to get people to not vote for Trump? Well, I think in their heart of hearts they know she's a loser, liar, and when the spotlight really starts shining on her she'll become that shrill barking dog like she demonstrated at that rally. Parties only go after people they are afraid of, and it appears they are extremely afraid of Trump for some reason.
The ads this year should be very entertaining at least
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It's not surprising that Union workers and Blue Collar Dems are supporting Trump. His campaign rhetoric is very attractive to them about bringing jobs back, massive tariffs on imports, building the wall, deporting illegals here already. He has managed to craft the perception that he is for the worker, the little guy. They are going to be really disappointed if he becomes President when he turns out not to actually believe any of that crap, but they fell for it hook, line and sinker. After being told repeatedly that they were swallowing a big fat lie.
By the way, Democrat voters are absolutely putting Trump over the top in many states that have OPEN voting where Democrats can crossover and vote for him, and are, in large numbers. In the 13 CLOSED voting states that have voted, where only Republicans can vote, Cruz's avg. % take of the vote is 35% and Trump's is 31%. If you're a Republican and you're good with Democrats deciding who the Republican nominee should be, then you must be pretty happy right now, because that is exactly what is happening. More Republicans are voting for Cruz, not Trump.
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Originally posted by Joshua Flournoy View PostIt's not surprising that Union workers and Blue Collar Dems are supporting Trump. His campaign rhetoric is very attractive to them about bringing jobs back, massive tariffs on imports, building the wall, deporting illegals here already. He has managed to craft the perception that he is for the worker, the little guy. They are going to be really disappointed if he becomes President when he turns out not to actually believe any of that crap, but they fell for it hook, line and sinker. After being told repeatedly that they were swallowing a big fat lie.
By the way, Democrat voters are absolutely putting Trump over the top in many states that have OPEN voting where Democrats can crossover and vote for him, and are, in large numbers. In the 13 CLOSED voting states that have voted, where only Republicans can vote, Cruz's avg. % take of the vote is 35% and Trump's is 31%. If you're a Republican and you're good with Democrats deciding who the Republican nominee should be, then you must be pretty happy right now, because that is exactly what is happening. More Republicans are voting for Cruz, not Trump.
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Originally posted by Bayouboy View Post
Why should they? He is kicking everyone's butt right now.
Kicks mike off stage. Exits left.
Why not spend those advertising dollars on the candidate that best represents the memberships choice or not spend the money at all?
It seems like a waste to me to spend a bunch of money on ads for a candidate the membership does not like or believe in.
Of course I know the answer to my questions...and you do as well.
The leadership do not believe the members are smart enough to back the correct candidate
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Originally posted by txjustin View PostI think people are going to learn quicker than that. Just wait till the general if Trump is the nominee. He's gonna take a real hard turn to the moderate stance. Or, maybe I'm wrong. Who the heck knows...
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IMO if the Union movement had as much power as the news published and the Union national leaders would like you to think we would they could possibly have a voice. The national leaders of the union do not represent the average union worker in their political views IMO. Then you could say why don't the average members take things back? Well it's not that simple as in any business. At the national level the union is a business as well and there lies one of the problems also. And yes I worked in a union facilities for 36 years.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostOf course you understand the point to be made is
Why not spend those advertising dollars on the candidate that best represents the memberships choice or not spend the money at all?
It seems like a waste to me to spend a bunch of money on ads for a candidate the membership does not like or believe in.
Of course I know the answer to my questions...and you do as well.
The leadership do not believe the members are smart enough to back the correct candidate
So, it really does not matter who the high brass promotes. The dues paying members will make their own decision. I am a member of the U S W. I have not seen anything yet on who they support. They may wait until there is a fairly good indication on who will win then jump in and back that candidate.
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Originally posted by tps7742 View PostIMO if the Union movement had as much power as the news published and the Union national leaders would like you to think we would they could possibly have a voice. The national leaders of the union do not represent the average union worker in their political views IMO. Then you could say why don't the average members take things back? Well it's not that simple as in any business. At the national level the union is a business as well and there lies one of the problems also. And yes I worked in a union facilities for 36 years.
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