Hawaii passes gun bill

[iamntxhunter]

making it the first US State to place owners in a federal criminal record database and monitoring them for any wrong doing anywhere in the country.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/24/hawaii-becomes-first-state-to-put-gun-owners-in-federal-database.html

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[Thumper]

Most likely also shared with the IRS.

[stickerpatch59]

here's the thing about a lot of these bills; a lot of them make some sense and everyone says YEAH. but at the same time if you get caught taking a leak on the side of the road, well now you are a guilty of a sex crime and have to register as a sex offender.
where is the thinking in that one? if i'm wrong, well someone set me straight.

just be careful as to what you think is right and the way to go; someday you may be ensnared in this net.

prisons are BIG business these days. and an empty bed is revenue lost.

[tvc184]

here's the thing about a lot of these bills; a lot of them make some sense and everyone says YEAH. but at the same time if you get caught taking a leak on the side of the road, well now you are a guilty of a sex crime and have to register as a sex offender.
where is the thinking in that one? if i'm wrong, well someone set me straight.

just be careful as to what you think is right and the way to go; someday you may be ensnared in this net.

prisons are BIG business these days. and an empty bed is revenue lost.

Taking a leak on side of the road is a sex crime and requires registration?

Hmmm........

[stickerpatch59]

Taking a leak on side of the road is a sex crime and requires registration?

Hmmm........

yep, if the right guy rolls up on you, you can be charged with exposing yourself. = sex crime= registration. check it out.

[Maui-diver]

All 27 people are now legit. Lol. 23 yrs in Maui, I didn't know anyone with a gun. Well, a couple of hunters, but that's it. Ha!

[muzzlebrake]

YEAH. but at the same time if you get caught taking a leak on the side of the road, well now you are a guilty of a sex crime and have to register as a sex offender.

Dang it! Now I'm a sex offender? But I am not alone. Everybody I ever knew also is one. WE are a world of perverts I guess.

[doppelganger]

If this bill passes, it'll get struck down, eventually after going to court. it's in violation to
18 U.S. Code § 926 - Rules and regulations

(a) The Attorney General may prescribe only such rules and regulations as are necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter, including—
(1) regulations providing that a person licensed under this chapter, when dealing with another person so licensed, shall provide such other licensed person a certified copy of this license;
(2) regulations providing for the issuance, at a reasonable cost, to a person licensed under this chapter, of certified copies of his license for use as provided under regulations issued under paragraph (1) of this subsection; and
(3) regulations providing for effective receipt and secure storage of firearms relinquished by or seized from persons described in subsection (d)(8) or (g)(8) of section 922.

No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s [1] authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

(b) The Attorney General shall give not less than ninety days public notice, and shall afford interested parties opportunity for hearing, before prescribing such rules and regulations.
(c) The Attorney General shall not prescribe rules or regulations that require purchasers of black powder under the exemption provided in section 845(a)(5) of this title to complete affidavits or forms attesting to that exemption.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926

[Mike D]

If this bill passes, it'll get struck down, eventually after going to court. it's in violation to

18 U.S. Code § 926 - Rules and regulations



(a) The Attorney General may prescribe only such rules and regulations as are necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter, including—

(1) regulations providing that a person licensed under this chapter, when dealing with another person so licensed, shall provide such other licensed person a certified copy of this license;

(2) regulations providing for the issuance, at a reasonable cost, to a person licensed under this chapter, of certified copies of his license for use as provided under regulations issued under paragraph (1) of this subsection; and

(3) regulations providing for effective receipt and secure storage of firearms relinquished by or seized from persons described in subsection (d)(8) or (g)(8) of section 922.



No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s[1] authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.



(b) The Attorney General shall give not less than ninety days public notice, and shall afford interested parties opportunity for hearing, before prescribing such rules and regulations.

(c) The Attorney General shall not prescribe rules or regulations that require purchasers of black powder under the exemption provided in section 845(a)(5) of this title to complete affidavits or forms attesting to that exemption.





https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926

Yeah but what sucks is how long will it be tied up in litigation? I wonder what the level of non-compliance would be.


"An honest government has no fear of an armed population".