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Old 10-14-2008, 07:59 PM   #1
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OK. There's lots of big bucks running around out there. Don't know how many more years we'll be able to run the feed program, so I'm wanting to kill a bigger deer this year. Over 150 cost 300 per inch. That means I can kill a 160 for 3 grand. I don't want to go over that. 500 per inch over that. Here's a candidate. You be the guide. How much will he cost me? Is he too big? Is he too small? My bow is draw. How much will I pay?

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Old 10-14-2008, 08:01 PM   #2
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I'd say you are going to be slightly over.

Those split brows and little stickers add up fast at $300-$500 inch!!

My guess is that is a $4500 deer?
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:02 PM   #3
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Slip me a grand and after the hunt is over I'll by the pepsi.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:08 PM   #4
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If I was the guide I would tell my client to take his pick. I think you would be safe on all those bucks. Even if one or two break the 160" mark it won't be by much. I can over look 2" rather than feed the buck for another year. As long as they are all 5.5yrs old and older... start shooting.

Those double G-1's will only help make up for those short G-4's
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:11 PM   #5
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I'd say you are going to be slightly over.

Those split brows and little stickers add up fast at $300-$500 inch!!

My guess is that is a $4500 deer?
PURT MUCH!!!! The split brow one could break the bank hardest IMHO
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:14 PM   #6
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im no pro at this...my first number was 151. my second number is 157(adding a bit just to be safe)
tell the hunter its gonna cost you 2100 and he isnt over 160. i think we can find a bigger deer. and i frown on shooting deer at night anyway

this could get interesting. i wanna see the final score. that is not a 160 inch deer in my eyes.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:15 PM   #7
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Don't think he'll net over 160, but don't come looking to me for the difference if he does. That looks like your kind of buck, though, Doc.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:17 PM   #8
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Correct me if I'm wrong but, that is all the same deer?

So he is a 5x5 with split g1's. Possibly a small kicker on his right g3 but, doubtful?

That deer has 6"-8" of extra browtines!!!!!!

If you are stuck at $3000.....PASS.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:19 PM   #9
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Yep, they are all of the same deer.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:21 PM   #10
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RickyT, net is for fishing. LOL I wish it was net, it would be less expensive.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:21 PM   #11
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If I was the guide I would tell my client to take his pick. I think you would be safe on all those bucks. Even if one or two break the 160" mark it won't be by much. I can over look 2" rather than feed the buck for another year. As long as they are all 5.5yrs old and older... start shooting.

Those double G-1's will only help make up for those short G-4's
I think those are pics of the same deer, not different ones.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:21 PM   #12
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doc, I wouldn't charge you one penny
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:22 PM   #13
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I thought they were all the same deer! I would say he is very close to 160", but I doubt he would go over that.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:25 PM   #14
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RickyT, net is for fishing. LOL I wish it was net, it would be less expensive.
I love a good fishin' joke. Funny TD!!

I am guessing he's barely over 160".
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:27 PM   #15
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im stickin to my original number. 157. and i added the extra brows. and i do not think its 8-9 inches of extra. more like 5-6. doc, you better not drag this on forever lol. you could only have a few seconds to give an answer in the feild so we shouldnt have to wait to see the results for more than thirty minutes plenty of time to score the deer lol.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:28 PM   #16
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4500.00
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:31 PM   #17
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159 7/8"
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:35 PM   #18
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I'm just getting started with this one. I had him in ONE pic last year and he was never seen by ANYONE during the season. He's moved about 2 miles and taken up residence at this protein feeder. I've got pics of him since July eating protein. Since Elk and AJ have messed up horns this year, he's at the top of my list. I had just put up my ground blind and corned this area and these pics are that first night. I have to lay eyes on him and decide if he's too big or not. His points are sorta fragile looking and he'll break up when he starts fighting. I've got to get him quick. I've set up two blinds and have all kinds of cameras looking. I'll go back Thursday night and give him 5 more days. Need some better weather. I sweated like a you know what this week. Change clothes after every hunt type stuff.

I'm looking at a typical 12 that I videoed from a tripod Sunday evening. He won't quite hit 150 but he's a nice buck. I videoed him out on a road for over 2 hours, so he might be the easy choice. Who knows. It's a long season and I'm just getting started.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:37 PM   #19
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Break couple points off (putting them in your pocket)....then just have em added back at the taxi!

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Old 10-14-2008, 08:39 PM   #20
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ah crap i thought you had the score lol. what do YOU think this one scores doc?
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:43 PM   #21
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I'd say shoot him Doc. He is pushing 60 but I don't think he is quite there.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:45 PM   #22
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Doc I think that buck will go 165.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:46 PM   #23
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If I'm your guide I'm saying shoot him- but I'm not the one paying- beautiful buck Doc. I would say you are going to be probably more acurate than most on here as far as score goes. He would look great on your wall.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:48 PM   #24
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Archery1st, I don't like the way you're thinking. LOL
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:50 PM   #25
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He will be just over I believe. You will pay closer to 4K.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:53 PM   #26
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I'd say he has 59" of up tines. Not sure what your deer main frame, but I bet your on the money. Expensive if he is decieving though. I think his short left beam will save you though.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:53 PM   #27
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That is a nice deer but it will not break 160.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:57 PM   #28
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I don't like it either, but I can't get him under 160. I intentionally put in 2" of cushion as well because thats a $1000 mistake if I short ya 2".
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:04 PM   #29
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Look @ it this way...worst case $5500
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:06 PM   #30
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Anyone have a short tape? LOL
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:08 PM   #31
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i cant get 60. i would say green light is on
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:13 PM   #32
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I say throw in a couple more root canals into next week's schedule and whack him where he stands.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:16 PM   #33
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Psst...Doc You want a loooong tape in this case.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:28 PM   #34
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I got 158, but I had Picketts at 196 and the mass killed me.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:31 PM   #35
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This pic shows him feeding in a mesquite bush where I piled corn. It's about 16 yards from my ground blind. He's quartering away. Only problem is that this is at night.

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Here's my ground blind. I have 3 shooting lanes. Only problem I have with it is the MONTROUS King Snake that tried to come in while I was reading a book. I've NEVER seen a snake this big. If it's head were bigger, I would swear it was a boa. I don't like snakes, but I'm not exaggerating. I walk in very cautiously. If my little brother had been there, he'd have tried to catch it and it would have been quite a show.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:32 PM   #36
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Doc, here's what I got from the pics:
Width = 21
Beams = 48
G1's = 11
G2's = 13
G3's = 19
G4's = 11
OP's = 7 (can't see both splits too well)
Mass = 34

Total = 164
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:39 PM   #37
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I am with the less than 160 guys, I have him at 156. I don't think he has the mass or the tine length to get there. Main beam length is a bit short too, up and fgorward not back and forward. Clear the space on your wall for the mount. Thwack is the next thing you should hear after you see him in your shooting lane.

I had the same G1 - G3 and XP's, 2 less on the G4's, 3 less on width, 4 less on beams, 2 more on mass as Saltwater Slicks.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:41 PM   #38
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Doc, compare at 155 4/8ths..Good Luck

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:41 PM   #39
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doc, if i am wrong with him NOT making 60 i will buy you the BEST ground blind $$$ can get ya

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:43 PM   #40
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163? Gave him 100 inches of base. Could be giving him more than he needs on points 34 left 29 right.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:46 PM   #41
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LOL. How about 3 of a lesser quality.

Rsatt, that's the BIGGEST 155 I've ever seen. If he's 155, I shouldn't have to worry. Unless you're talking "net". LOL
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:48 PM   #42
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Love the ground blind set up Doc...very nice! I would have to say he is over 160 also. I got him around 162 or so. Dang good looking deer!
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:49 PM   #43
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Doc, the buck in my avitar is 158 5/8

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:50 PM   #44
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What do you think his beams/spread/mass are Doc?

That pic with his head in the bush only makes me think he is bigger...
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:52 PM   #45
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I'd get the okay from the powers that be BEFOREHAND. You got enough pictures for them to say yay or nay. He's so close and so old they ought to give an old protein slinger like you the green light.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:52 PM   #46
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Rsatt, that's the BIGGEST 155 I've ever seen. If he's 155, I shouldn't have to worry. Unless you're talking "net". LOL

No, that is gross...........BUT I scored him myself.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:54 PM   #47
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Yeah, I had to cover it with the netting so the buck wouldn't know he was getting shot from a cheap blind. LOL
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:04 PM   #48
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Here are my thoughts.

His "up" is his strong suit. His 4 on the right being short helps keep him down. If it matched the left, forget it. Only the left brow is split. He started to grow splits on the right, but he must have broken it early. I'll argue we have no proof of them being there. I give him 63 up.

His down is what I hope keeps him under 160. His mass isn't very strong. 30 to 31 inches. Beams dont look that long, so I gave him 46. He's just outside his ears. I gave him 18 max. That's 95. 158 is what I'm guessing. Gives me a couple inches in case I'm under on something, but I think I gave him max numbers.

One thing I've learned over the years. Beams are hard to guess and mass in trail cams almost always looks less than what it is.

I may be over a little in spread, especially the way his right side seems to turn in sooner than the left. Also, with his beam length, I may get back an inch or so. Very little wiggle room.

If I make the decision to shoot him and he's a little over, I won't cry, but I would like to avoid 500 dollars an inch.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:07 PM   #49
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Go ahead Doc, if he's over we will take up a collection at next year's Bownanza. I'll bet we can come up with 20 or 30 bucks!
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This deer has kinda a similar shape with shorter points... honestly dunno how much it will help but all measurements are there...


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