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Old 02-08-2018, 10:59 PM   #1
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I am trying to thin the herd on my pistols and get into the same caliber, I am interested in bulk ammo buys. I like the 40 caliber myself. I feel the 9mm is the right choice just due to ammo. So which way do you go?
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:02 PM   #2
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9mm for me. I can shoot it faster, more accurately, I compete with it, its cheaper to shoot, high mag capacity, large bullet selection that performs well.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:14 PM   #3
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:34 PM   #4
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9. There's no reason to shoot a .40 any more
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:36 PM   #5
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why not
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:41 PM   #6
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9mm

Always available, cheap to shoot, and itís a NATO round if SHTF.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:42 PM   #7
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9mm for me.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:15 AM   #8
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:20 AM   #9
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9mm for me. I can shoot it faster, more accurately, I compete with it, its cheaper to shoot, high mag capacity, large bullet selection that performs well.
Yep, 9mm. Easier to shoot faster, more accurately. Shot placement is what gets it done.
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why not
I was being inflammatory, as there are obviously great guns and good defense/practice ammo readily available in .40

But there's nothing to gain for me over a 9 running hst's. If I want to lose cap or have to move to a larger frame and up my recoil I'm going to 10mm where the terminal gains are more measurable.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:57 AM   #11
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I watched a video the other day as to why the FBI went back to using the 9mm. The cliff notes were the 9mm typically has a bit more penetration due to its slightly smaller diameter of the hollow point rounds when the round expands vs a .40 round. The .45 caliber had a touch more recoil, which admit it or not causes people to flinch more than when shooting a 9mm. Not to mention higher magazine capacity vs 40 or 45. The video also stated that knockdown power (unless compared to larger caliber rounds (10mm, 44 magnum, ect) is a myth. If someone is on PCP for example, it does not matter what caliber round you shoot them with, they will not stop until vitals are hit. It also stated that follow up shots are more important than overall power of the caliber. With caliber size being the only variable, follow up shots with the 9mm tend to be more accurate than the other calibers. Then of course there is the cost of the ammo(9mm being the cheapest on average).

So even though the 9mm is the weaker round, it’s pros outweigh the cons.

Do I believe the video? Well, I’m not an expert so I really can’t back up any of this. Give it another 15-20 years and the FBI will probably switch to another caliber again.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:04 AM   #12
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I have a 9mm and a .40.
I carry the 9 and the .40 lives in the safe.

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Old 02-09-2018, 06:04 AM   #13
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If I could only have one caliber for a defensive handgun it would be 9mm.


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Old 02-09-2018, 06:06 AM   #14
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I like and use my 9mm pistols. They get the job done
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:09 AM   #15
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"Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it!"

"A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him 'Why do you carry a 45?' The Ranger responded, 'Because they don't make a 46.''

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Old 02-09-2018, 06:12 AM   #16
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9mm for me.
If it ever comes to a lawyer asking questions about why I shot that round.... If I'm shooting what the FBI tested and chose, it would sure make answering those questions that much easier.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:19 AM   #17
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9mm here. Ammo is so cheap. Get a case of 1000 for $180 shipped to my front door every other month.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:30 AM   #18
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45. worked good enough for our boys in WWII and still works great today throwing cannon balls
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:37 AM   #19
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With bullet technology today the 9mm and the .40 are very simular in down range performance on gel. I have plenty of both and confident in both. It comes down to finding what gun feels best in your hand and keep that whether it be a 9 or 40.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:44 AM   #20
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:15 AM   #21
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I prefer the 9 over the .40. Too much hand shock with the 40 to shoot over and over...just too snappy for my taste. Now if you had said 9mm vs .45 it would've been a totally different answer
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:29 AM   #22
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40
I shoot my 40 as fast and more accurate than all my buddies shoot thier 9s.
Maybe I would want a 9 in a compact.
I have killed hogs n other critters with my xd.
The Underwood 155 xtp is very effective.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:29 AM   #23
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I carry a 9 with the Barnes Tac bullets. I shot a pig with them and was very impressed. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end for sure...
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:43 AM   #24
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I shoot my 40 as fast and more accurate than all my buddies shoot thier 9s.
Maybe I would want a 9 in a compact.
I have killed hogs n other critters with my xd.
The Underwood 155 xtp is very effective.
Why do you have limp wristed buddies?
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:55 AM   #25
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9mm here. Ammo is so cheap. Get a case of 1000 for $180 shipped to my front door every other month.
IMO, cost is the only reason to go 9mm. Everything else is personal preference. I like the .40 and up calibers and don't find any of them hard to shoot, but then I bought my first handgun ever fifty-some years ago.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:58 AM   #26
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9mm here. Ammo is so cheap. Get a case of 1000 for $180 shipped to my front door every other month.
From where?
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:11 AM   #27
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40, easy to shoot, comes in small frame guns like a 9. Capacity close to 9, but much more available power when needed. I use a book 40 load that does 440 FPE out of a 3 inch gun, that is more than a 9s do out of 5 inch guns. Out of a 5 inch guns, it does 600 fpe. With the FBI model, 9, 40, and 45, are about the same in their results because they are designed to meet a specific goal. Whn you decide to do something not in line with that goal, (hunting, max penetration, wfn leads, high energy loads, etc.) the 40 really starts to shine. You can always load a 40 down to 9, but you cant load a 9 to 40 power, case capacity and bullet weight just don't allow it. However if a 9 will probable serve you well too. Good luck
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:32 AM   #28
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I went to 9mm. I buy it in bulk. Its cheaper to shoot so I can practice more. Its also a great round. I do have one .40 and one .45 but barley shoot them.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:35 AM   #29
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:36 AM   #30
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9mm or 45 for me in a 1911 or 2011 frame. Shot deer and pigs with a 9mm and it worked ok. 45 is a better choice at the ranch.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...HNGbnpKdldjS1k

I am so ready for pig season this year. Upgraded my 9mm
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:43 AM   #31
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I prefer the 9 over the .40. Too much hand shock with the 40 to shoot over and over...just too snappy for my taste. Now if you had said 9mm vs .45 it would've been a totally different answer
I don't have a 9mm and haven't shot one in years but the "snappy" description is on that I have always heard most folks say is a con of the 40 over he 9mm. I have a XDm 40 compact and when I shoot it, I can see where the "snappy" description comes from. But without recent experience with a 9 I can't confirm I agree, but I do see where it could be that way. I have always noticed that 40 can get a little wild if you try to put a few on paper in a quick manner.

If I had to put 11 in an attacker as quick as I could, he would have a hole in his chest, his nose, his knee, missing pinky toe, no more baby making and probably missing a couple fingers and an ear lobe
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:46 AM   #32
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9mm or 45 for me in a 1911 or 2011 frame. Shot deer and pigs with a 9mm and it worked ok. 45 is a better choice at the ranch.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...HNGbnpKdldjS1k

I am so ready for pig season this year. Upgraded my 9mm
That's a sweet looking pistol, I have always wanted to build a slick looking 1911 like that.
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45 or 9. I love them both and carry both. I would say I probably carry the 9 a little more but not enough to call it my favorite. Glock 19 and Para Ordnance commander size aluminum frame 1911.


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Old 02-09-2018, 08:50 AM   #34
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The obvious awnser is to marry the two... the 357sig
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:52 AM   #35
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31 rounds of 9mm should bust up a group of pigs. Basically no recoil and the dot doesn't come off the glass. Pistol hunting is a great spring time sport.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:57 AM   #36
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I don't have a 9mm and haven't shot one in years but the "snappy" description is on that I have always heard most folks say is a con of the 40 over he 9mm. I have a XDm 40 compact and when I shoot it, I can see where the "snappy" description comes from. But without recent experience with a 9 I can't confirm I agree, but I do see where it could be that way. I have always noticed that 40 can get a little wild if you try to put a few on paper in a quick manner.

If I had to put 11 in an attacker as quick as I could, he would have a hole in his chest, his nose, his knee, missing pinky toe, no more baby making and probably missing a couple fingers and an ear lobe
He'd look like a walking (or maybe not-so-walking) sponge lol
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31 rounds of 9mm should bust up a group of pigs. Basically no recoil and the dot doesn't come off the glass. Pistol hunting is a great spring time sport.
Yeah, but you said you were ready for "pig season". When did Texas go back to a "pig season"?
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:29 AM   #38
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The obvious awnser is to marry the two... the 357sig
Exactly what I was going to say. Love that round
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:30 AM   #39
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For all practical applications, it's a 9 for me. I shoot the big stuff when I just wanna feel extra manly and make a bigger boom.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:30 AM   #40
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Pig season, months of march, April and May. We have dove season then deer season and quail season. During the spring we can concentrate on pigs before it's so hot outside that most pigs don't come out during the day.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:35 AM   #41
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The obvious awnser is to marry the two... the 357sig

This^^^^^is my duty weapon every day.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:38 AM   #42
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With modern self defense ammo, carry the weapon that you shoot well
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This^^^^^is my duty weapon every day.
38 super has long history of use without a bottle neck round that the 357 Sig has. I would buy a super over a Sig any day just for that reason. Reloading a Sig isn't fun. I tried it back in the day and ended up selling everything 357 sig. A guns cost is low compared to the cost of ammo. You can buy a super cartridge gun but it doesn't do any good if you can't afford to practice.

38 super and 9mm dominate practical pistol shooting. Guys are leaning more to the 9mm every year. You can easily have one pistol that will run 9mm and 38 super with just a barrel and spring change.
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I am trying to thin the herd on my pistols and get into the same caliber, I am interested in bulk ammo buys. I like the 40 caliber myself. I feel the 9mm is the right choice just due to ammo. So which way do you go?
40 may cost more but is a more versatile caliber,,, i would not consider a 9 a woods carry gun,, and while the 40 is not the best it is certainly better because of heavier bullet weights available,,, for self defense either can be effective given the right bullet design
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The obvious awnser is to marry the two... the 357sig
At one time I agreed with this but I can get +P+ 9mm rounds that rival .357 Sig and carry more of them. .357 Sig is becoming obsolete and is expensive to shoot.
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When you add cost of ammo, 9 wins every time.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:40 AM   #47
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From where?
Whoever has it cheapest when I need to order more. This month was sportsman guide for sellier and bellot, usually it's that, fiocchi, or wolf gold.

Other websites I usually order from are natchez shooting sports or brownells.


There's a few websites that will compile current prices for different sites
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:41 AM   #48
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:50 AM   #49
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I just did this, got rid of all my .40 stuff and just have 9 now, so Glock 17 and S&W shield and Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm for my BOB with a host of Glock 31 round mags.
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Two ways to be stopped by bullets. Bleed out or Sever Spinal cord! If anyone stops for any reason other than that it's because they gave up to shock factor and not because the bullet actually stopped them. I go for more ammo accurate shots that matter and what best available. 9mm for me. I carried a .40 for 15 years as and officer and love that round as well. However if I was going into battle I would be deadly to many with a .22 vs anything else. Just my .2cents.


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