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Old 02-06-2018, 10:37 AM   #1
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I am needing to put up hog panels around my feeders and the ground is very rocky. Typically I hit rock 6" to 8" down. I was wondering if anyone had a solution to getting "T" posts in the ground? I have a generator and could rent a hammer drill with a 1" concrete drill. Is that my best option?
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:38 AM   #2
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Yes that is what we did and that method works well


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Old 02-06-2018, 10:47 AM   #3
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we used 1/2" rebar cut down to 4' tall.

I used a hammer drill, a concrete drill bit and a generator to drill into the rock.

The pens have been up 9 months and not one pig has gotten in.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:47 AM   #4
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Yes that is what we did and that method works well


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Old 02-06-2018, 10:49 AM   #5
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we used 1/2" rebar cut down to 4' tall.

I used a hammer drill, a concrete drill bit and a generator to drill into the rock.

The pens have been up 9 months and not one pig has gotten in.


Hadn't thought of rebar. I'll look into that as well. Thanks.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:52 AM   #6
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just overlap a foot and use wire to tie them together, it worked great for us in junction.. use rebar steaks to reinforce in spots you might can get it in the ground w hammer.

Once its all tied together it can not bend or move, no post needed

just make sure to use the real hog panel not the thin cattle stuff
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:54 AM   #7
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just overlap a foot and use wire to tie them together, it worked great for us in junction.. use rebar steaks to reinforce in spots you might can get it in the ground w hammer.

Once its all tied together it can not bend or move, no post needed

just make sure to use the real hog panel not the thin cattle stuff

What was the approximate diameter of your finished pen?
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:54 AM   #8
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It's a little more expensive, but wasn't there a guy that made free standing traps from panels framed with square tubing? Something like that may save you some sore muscles. If necessary, you could wire in some rebar or similar section of metal to stiffen up the joints a bit.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:57 AM   #9
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hammer drill into the rock and drive the post. It will never move.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:00 AM   #10
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We also ran 1/4" rebar horizontally on the inside of the pen.

The pigs havent been a problem.

The Aoudad are now the issue. They will run into the panels and bend them when they fight or leave in a hurry.

We used 9 panels per pen but I plan on making them bigger. will probably add 1-2 panels per pen.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:02 AM   #11
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just overlap a foot and use wire to tie them together, it worked great for us in junction.. use rebar steaks to reinforce in spots you might can get it in the ground w hammer.

Once its all tied together it can not bend or move, no post needed

just make sure to use the real hog panel not the thin cattle stuff
Good call. It would necessarily hold one in, but it will probably keep them out.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:50 AM   #12
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I have used as few as 8 panels erected in a square. But for the last few years, we've used 12 panels erected in a circle. We overlap one section on each end and tie in 3 spots at each overlap. We put a post at each overlap and another post 1/2 way between overlaps. It makes for a big, stout pen.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:59 AM   #13
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Fill barrels with rocks in places where t posts won’t work. Wire the panels to the barrels.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:09 PM   #14
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just overlap a foot and use wire to tie them together, it worked great for us in junction.. use rebar steaks to reinforce in spots you might can get it in the ground w hammer.

Once its all tied together it can not bend or move, no post needed

just make sure to use the real hog panel not the thin cattle stuff

We did something similar when we use to hunt rock springs. We would bend the bottom of the panels to 90 degrees about a foot up from the bottom. The we would make a large octagon type shape overlapping the corners. Then we put t-posts in where we could get them in the ground. Finally, we would roll large rocks or pile up rocks on the bottom part that was bent and laying flat on the ground.

May be easier to just rent a drill though
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:11 PM   #15
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1/2' rebar and a 5/8" hilti drill, drive down with 2lb hammer......they'll be there till the end of the earth
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:47 PM   #16
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The best thing to do is donít use t poss and panels but buy free standing deer panels from Rivera Custom in Lometa. No driving of posts and completely portable.




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Old 02-06-2018, 12:53 PM   #17
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The best thing to do is donít use t poss and panels but buy free standing deer panels from Rivera Custom in Lometa. No driving of posts and completely portable.




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Getting ready to put 40 of these up for sale. I am in the San Saba area.
Sorry to hijack the thread. Just thought I would mention this if anyone is looking.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:04 PM   #18
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Getting ready to put 40 of these up for sale. I am in the San Saba area.

Sorry to hijack the thread. Just thought I would mention this if anyone is looking.


Will you split up or are you wanting to sell the whole lot? Iíd like to add a few to my pen to make it bigger but donít need 40 of them.


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Old 02-06-2018, 01:15 PM   #19
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I have a generator and could rent a hammer drill with a 1" concrete drill. Is that my best option?
Yes... that's how everyone that does it for a living does it.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:22 PM   #20
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Me and one other guy put up a 60í diameter pen in less than 2hrs, from start to finish!!! They are more expensive, but are also the cats meow of feeder pens!!!

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Old 02-06-2018, 01:45 PM   #21
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I had to build feed pens in rock for a guy before. There was no way I was driving them in without bending em so I got a cutting torch and cut about 6" of the bottom of em and he never knew the difference.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:46 PM   #22
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9 panels at 16'=144 times .5=72 divided by 3.14=22.9 so roughly 46 foot in diameter
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:48 PM   #23
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Framed hog panels with 1" tubing. Then weld couple pieces of 1 1/2 rectangle on the ends then connect with a piece of rebar down the rectangle pieces. You can put a pen together about as fast as you can unload the trailer

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Old 02-06-2018, 02:01 PM   #24
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That's a great idea on the square tubing, I'll check the cost on that, but it would be a nice setup and easy to move around.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:01 PM   #25
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Above is what we do and use EMT pipe, works well and fairly cheap.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:06 PM   #26
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Will you split up or are you wanting to sell the whole lot? Iíd like to add a few to my pen to make it bigger but donít need 40 of them.


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Price is right Mike I might be in for some as well and I hunt in San Saba.

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Hammer drill and drive em in. That's what we did and they are there for good.

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Old 02-06-2018, 02:20 PM   #28
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That's a great idea on the square tubing, I'll check the cost on that, but it would be a nice setup and easy to move around.


Yep piece of cake setup and move around. Easy to add panels to make bigger pen as you can afford it. Tubing plus hog panel running about $40-42 per panel
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:25 PM   #29
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That sounds high on the price. Hog panel $19.00, and I don't know what a 24' length of tubing is yet, but I hope I'm not going to be in it for that much per panel.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:31 PM   #30
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1" square primed around me running about .52 a foot Got roughly about 38 ft in each panel. Totals about 19.75 in tubing plus 19.00 a panel Steel prices fluctuate so might get tubing cheaper
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:39 PM   #31
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I know it's more expensive but when myself and another person can put a ten panel pen together in about 20 minutes and never drive a t post or wire anything it has been worth every penny. I will never go back to the old way
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:40 PM   #32
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I have a call in, so I'll find out later how much. Still a good idea, and they will most likely last much longer and for sure be easier to set up and take down. Time to get the chop saw a new blade and start burning some rods.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:43 PM   #33
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That sounds high on the price. Hog panel $19.00, and I don't know what a 24' length of tubing is yet, but I hope I'm not going to be in it for that much per panel.


At first glance it does sound high.. About the time you figure $20 per hog panel, the cost of the tea posts the cost of running the drill the post youíre going to damage driving Iím in etc. etc. etc. and then not having the ability to move the set up from location to location if needed they really are a bargain.

Iíve also never had a pig or a cow getting inside my pin using these either. Iíve had big pigs and cows jjust mow downhog panels in the past.


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Old 02-06-2018, 02:52 PM   #34
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Real easy to add some fawn entrances in between panels as well. We add in spring then take out later. Never had a cow or pig either we these
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:55 PM   #35
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I'm not going to use t posts and I have plenty of rebar on hand. I'll weld the bits and pieces of 1" tube onto the ends for the hinges and go with rebar through those holes into the ground. I'll probably leave a foot at the top in case I need to attach some wire to it. Or if I don't need to I'll bend some rebar with a j at the top and put them through the holes. I"m sure I'll need to put some type of tie down on some of it. Good idea though and I'm going to steal it from you for my place. ;-)
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:57 PM   #36
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We use goat panels, like the ones in the photos above. They pin together like taller cattle panels and don't require driving anything into the ground.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:01 PM   #37
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1" will certainly work on the ends. We went with 1 1/2 rectangle on the ends just cause it was easier to line up and connect the panels. I promise you will never build another pen any other way
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:09 PM   #38
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I'll weld two or three on one end top, middle, bottom and stagger on the opposite end, then wash, rinse repeat so that my alignment will be good.
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