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Old 09-17-2020, 03:27 PM   #1
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Default Gov Abbott , Bars to stay Closed

Glad I'm not a bar owner in Texas, sheesh. Wonder how he expects them to continue to pay their bills??

I did notice a few pubs in my area open. Not sure what type of resistance they're getting if any?
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Old 09-17-2020, 03:29 PM   #2
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Wish people would stop cowering if everybody said the heck with it and opened, what could they do? Nothing.

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TABC can and will revoke their license. The have already done it.
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Old 09-17-2020, 03:40 PM   #5
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There has to be work arounds - I don’t see anything closed around me North of Dallas.
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They are discounting drinks, and up charging food to make the 51% required.


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Old 09-17-2020, 03:44 PM   #8
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TABC can and will revoke their license. The have already done it.
TABC is losing so much revenue that they said bars can bring in outside food or have food trucks on sight in order to get around their own 51% rule. Abbott needs to open up the state now!
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Old 09-17-2020, 03:45 PM   #9
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Guess it'll only affect bars that are 100 percent drinks only. Not sure.
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Old 09-17-2020, 03:48 PM   #10
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TABC is losing so much revenue that they said bars can bring in outside food or have food trucks on sight in order to get around their own 51% rule. Abbott needs to open up the state now!
TABC has made it much easier, including waiving the application fee, to get reclassified and drop the 51% designation.

You still have to jump through the hoops.

I would also anticipate enforcement is complaint driven as many things are.
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Old 09-17-2020, 03:58 PM   #11
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Abbott’s a loser
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:03 PM   #12
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He has done a hell of a lot better then most governors .
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:05 PM   #13
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He has done a hell of a lot better then most governors .
Not enough in my opinion...I donít care what other governors do or did, this is Texas!
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Not enough in my opinion...I donít care what other governors do or did, this is Texas!

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Old 09-17-2020, 04:07 PM   #15
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Check out this link regarding the cover up of COVID numbers in bars and restaurants in Nashville. Im sure it's the same in other cities as well.
https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-1...ing-revelation
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I sure hope we can get a real candidate to primary his *** out in 22. I am so, so disappointed in him for knuckling under to the PC culture. I thought he was above that, but he is a self-serving self-promoting politician that is looking out for his own career path with little regard as to what is right and what his constituents want. He's forgotten why he was elected.
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:12 PM   #17
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:13 PM   #18
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He's a nitwit. No backbone, no core. Soft as a pile of manure.
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:15 PM   #19
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Guess it'll only affect bars that are 100 percent drinks only. Not sure.


Nevermind. I think I mis-understood what you meant by 100% alcohol.

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Old 09-17-2020, 04:19 PM   #20
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This is insanity. What in the world do they think this is helping?
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:24 PM   #21
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:25 PM   #22
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So you are safe from the Corona's everywhere except a bar.. Hmmm got it
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:32 PM   #23
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Abbott is being groomed for President so he decided he needs to play neutral on everything to appease the Libs also instead of standing up for Texans and Texans.
Straddling the fence will get you some collateral damage.
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:34 PM   #24
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But every Lib I know hates his guts.
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:39 PM   #25
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:42 PM   #26
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But every Lib I know hates his guts.

Lol so true. If you have an R by your name they will hate you. No matter what.


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Old 09-17-2020, 05:55 PM   #27
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I sure hope we can get a real candidate to primary his *** out in 22. I am so, so disappointed in him for knuckling under to the PC culture. I thought he was above that, but he is a self-serving self-promoting politician that is looking out for his own career path with little regard as to what is right and what his constituents want. He's forgotten why he was elected.
You boys saved me from typing it.
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Old 09-17-2020, 06:07 PM   #28
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How are bars closed but I see the gambling rooms open around here? Those places are just as tight quarters as most bars and they donít even let the sun shine in them or anything out!
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Old 09-17-2020, 07:44 PM   #29
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What's stranger is the tubing and floating outfitters to remain closed also? Don't see much floating in the fall.
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:00 PM   #30
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I know of a bar in Austin that will sell you a bag of chips for $5 and give you a free beer.

I know of another that will provide music from a band for a donation and allows you to BYOB.

Another has plenty of picnic tables and sells go-beer in plastic cups all day long -- just wear your mask when you go in to order beers -- or even food.

Plenty of work-arounds to this BS.

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Old 09-17-2020, 08:01 PM   #31
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If one less innocent person dies because of a drunk driver or one less spouse or child gets abused from a drunk coming home from a bar then this may be the best unintended consequence of covid.
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I sure hope we can get a real candidate to primary his *** out in 22. I am so, so disappointed in him for knuckling under to the PC culture. I thought he was above that, but he is a self-serving self-promoting politician that is looking out for his own career path with little regard as to what is right and what his constituents want. He's forgotten why he was elected.
This. All of this. Primary his pansy ***. Heís got presidential aspirations, well to hell with that. Heís done!
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Old 09-17-2020, 09:10 PM   #33
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If one less innocent person dies because of a drunk driver or one less spouse or child gets abused from a drunk coming home from a bar then this may be the best unintended consequence of covid.
By George, youíre right! We should just leave bars closed....


Meanwhile, Iím in liberal Chicago, Cook County and Iím about to head to a bar for appetizers and beer
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they should just wait until the property tax bill comes in and just send in a % of what their business was able to make....
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If one less innocent person dies because of a drunk driver or one less spouse or child gets abused from a drunk coming home from a bar then this may be the best unintended consequence of covid.
And what do you say to those bar OWNERS!? Have you forgotten that all bars are owned by someone. Someone trying to make a living just like you and I. Someone with a family to support.
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Old 09-18-2020, 05:06 AM   #36
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I canít find my mask
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Old 09-18-2020, 05:43 AM   #37
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So if all of these former bars are now eateries that also have cocktails, can we carry there legally now?

Possibly an unintended positive consequence?!
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:34 AM   #38
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I am glad businesses are doing this, but it's just a freaking joke. And what about bars that have no kitchens? I know the argument is get a food truck. But how are they supposed to hire a food truck when they got no $$$ coming in the first place?

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I sure hope we can get a real candidate to primary his *** out in 22. I am so, so disappointed in him for knuckling under to the PC culture. I thought he was above that, but he is a self-serving self-promoting politician that is looking out for his own career path with little regard as to what is right and what his constituents want. He's forgotten why he was elected.
Abbott is running for President in 2024. He has made the coastal elites proud, and that's all he needs. We won't need to worry about him after 2022. When will these idiots realize an R has not won Cali or New York for decades?!

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If one less innocent person dies because of a drunk driver or one less spouse or child gets abused from a drunk coming home from a bar then this may be the best unintended consequence of covid.
I think this is trolling, but how would one explain the significant uptick in domestic abuse cases since Abbott shut down all the bars? Or the increased divorce rate?
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:35 AM   #39
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So if all of these former bars are now eateries that also have cocktails, can we carry there legally now?

Possibly an unintended positive consequence?!
Lol, some of us never stopped carrying in the first place...just don't drink.
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Old 09-18-2020, 10:17 AM   #40
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BS in my opinion. Here in Austin, Draughthouse requires an order of fries be purchased with every pint. Pints are happy hour prices and pint+fries is about what a normal pint costs. Nobody wants the fries. So, they just stack up on the counter. Oasis Brewery will sell you a to go beer with a lid which you open and just drink like regular. Date night on Wednesday was dinner at Perla's followed by drinks at Little Darlings where food purchase was encouraged but not required. The only places that arent open are the ones that couldnt adapt or willing to blur the rules. If elementary schools can open then so can bars. Abbot, Adler, etc need to stop picking winners and losers in this.
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Old 09-18-2020, 10:38 AM   #41
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If one less innocent person dies because of a drunk driver or one less spouse or child gets abused from a drunk coming home from a bar then this may be the best unintended consequence of covid.
Hope that youíre just trolling here...

I absolutely hate the ďif it saves one innocent person/childĒ argument. Slippery slope.

Replace drunk driver with firearm in your post and you have the long standing anti 2A argument
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Old 09-18-2020, 11:08 AM   #42
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Many are finding ways around it. And, I am glad they are for many reasons. The government should not be in the business of deciding what businesses survive and don’t survive. If people do not feel safe in a bar. Don’t go. That simple.
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Many are finding ways around it. And, I am glad they are for many reasons. The government should not be in the business of deciding what businesses survive and donít survive. If people do not feel safe in a bar. Donít go. That simple.
Or a ballgame, or a movie, or on an airplane, or to hunt deer in Mexico, etc...etc....

Remember when we used to be American and the actual citizens decided how they would recreate and spend their $$$??? F the socialists!
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Or a ballgame, or a movie, or on an airplane, or to HUNT DEER IN MEXICO, etc...etc....

Remember when we used to be American and the actual citizens decided how they would recreate and spend their $$$??? F the socialists!
I like your style
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I like your style
Yea, me too... 'cept that "hunt deer in Mexico part"... err-body knows we ain't spos'd ta do dat!
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Old 09-18-2020, 01:42 PM   #46
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Yea, me too... 'cept that "hunt deer in Mexico part"... err-body knows we ain't spos'd ta do dat!
Only crazy do that!

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If one less innocent person dies because of a drunk driver or one less spouse or child gets abused from a drunk coming home from a bar then this may be the best unintended consequence of covid.
Thats insane. Why not shut down all traffic because then no more traffic deaths regardless of whether they occurred from a drunk driver.
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What's stranger is the tubing and floating outfitters to remain closed also? Don't see much floating in the fall.

This was a gift to the tree huggers.
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Old 09-18-2020, 02:19 PM   #49
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TABC can and will revoke their license. The have already done it.
At this point what do they have to lose? All the bars need to open and send an effing message. You now how bad that will make the TABC look if they revoked every bars licence in the state. They won't do it.
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At this point what do they have to lose? All the bars need to open and send an effing message. You now how bad that will make the TABC look if they revoked every bars licence in the state. They won't do it.
The problem is the people who own the bar, what types of lawsuits will they open themselves up to from employees? All employees will talk a big game about being ready to go back to work, then one gets the 'rona and next thing you know, a lawsuit is filed against the bar owner.

What about insurance policies for those bars? I bet liability gets thrown on the owner if they defy state laws and edicts, no matter who they are written by and how stupid and subjective the rules are.

What about if the TABC revokes those bar's licenses? The bar owner than has a staff he now needs to say hey, sorry but none of you can work because I was stubborn and wanted to open.

It sucks, but it's not black and white, and bar owners are in a tough spot. And few have the means to say screw it, I am opening, and I don't care what happens to me.
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