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Old 07-02-2018, 11:06 AM   #1
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Need some help from the GS. About to close on our first house, and the seller is offering to pay for a home warranty. I know I probably wouldn't pay for one myself. Should I accept it simply because they're offering? I kinda feel wrong from that stance, as I don't see the need in wasting their money, they're already helping alot on closing costs and agreed to the only things I asked for after inspection. Or is it kind of a catch all for them to avoid issues if I was a whiny buyer that complains about issues after the fact?
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:09 AM   #2
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This is the norm. That being said when I sold my home last yr, my buyer turned it down. 6 months later the roof developed a leak that probably would have been covered. Unless its a new build, there is no complaining after the sell
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:10 AM   #3
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A lot of sellers offer it.
I’d just accept it, after that decide if you want to continue with warranty or not.
They can come in handy, but most of the time you’ll spend more on the warranty then you would on repairs, obviously or they wouldn’t be in business.


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Old 07-02-2018, 11:11 AM   #4
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It's not that expensive for them, and it's a nice offering. Take it and smile.
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:11 AM   #5
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A Home Warranty being paid for by the seller is something which occurs in about 98% of RE transactions. They vary from a couple hundred to a few hundred dollars. Most are about $450 depending on what you select. The warranties sometimes come in handy although it may be difficult dealing with the actual servicing companies.

Don't see it as a bad thing for taking the warranty. Not sure where this property is located, but if they are helping with closing costs and other things, you are more than likely in a buyers market. I flip houses in the Dallas area and it is a sellers market here. I don't pay a dime of the buyers closing costs and sometimes don't even pay for the title insurance-the buyer ends up paying it. However, I sometimes still offer a warranty or offer $200 to help pay for a warranty.

So, take the warranty and don't fret. You may be glad you did in a few months..
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:12 AM   #6
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Also America Home Shield is horrible company to deal with.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:09 PM   #7
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I would accept it for sure. I had one on my house I bought 7 years ago and sure enough the pool filter went out due to a crack in it like a month after closing and they replaced it under warranty and that would have cost me $1100 for sure.

Also, sometimes when you buy a house you are kind of "all in" like your spare cash is kind of tapped out for a bit due to misc. move in / fix up cost and down pymt and the last thing you need is a big repair bill hitting you when your cash is a bit lower right after closing on the house.

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Old 07-02-2018, 12:15 PM   #8
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Also America Home Shield is horrible company to deal with.
That is the company that we have been using for the past several years and we have never had a bad experience with them.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:20 PM   #9
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take it. seller usually offers that or $500. take the warranty
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:21 PM   #10
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Yes. Accept it.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:26 PM   #11
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I've had my current home for about 5 years now and still have it. Seller paid for first year, I've paid since then. I have two old AC units and one went out. Replaced with a new one for about $800. Waiting on the second one to go out so I can get it replaced. If I didn't have the warranty the first one would have cost me a lot more than $800 . small price for peace of mind. As stated, doesn't cost the seller much at all.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:29 PM   #12
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YES you want it

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Old 07-02-2018, 12:32 PM   #13
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Also America Home Shield is horrible company to deal with.
No bad experience from them. They usually come tonweekly training classes at Brokerage and talk about their warranty and services.

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Old 07-02-2018, 12:34 PM   #14
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No bad experience from them. They usually come tonweekly training classes at Brokerage and talk about their warranty and services.

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my parents were without hot water for weeks because of them
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:53 PM   #15
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I'd get the warranty, and I'd renew it when up. A couple months after I renewed our AC went out. Saved me a ton of $, took a while for the process to get it replaced, but well worth it.
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Old 07-02-2018, 01:07 PM   #16
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Accept it everyday.
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Old 07-02-2018, 01:12 PM   #17
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Just accepted mine. Basic plans 350 they offered 4 Hundy. Why not ?
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Old 07-02-2018, 01:30 PM   #18
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Also America Home Shield is horrible company to deal with.
Pretty much the same deal as the OP.

But I bought an old house with an 18 year old AC, that I knew was on its last leg. I went with American Home Shield after seeing that they didnt carve out the air conditioner like some other warranty companies.

Long story short, I had to deal with somebody in I think the Philippines that barely spoke even the most basic Engwish. Finally got somebody to come out, and they pushed back, since I tried to fix it first. Ended up saying all I needed was an $800 part, but I would had to buy $900 worth of refrigerant.

Ended up getting a new $7,000 air conditioning unit, and got them to credit me for the part. Frankly I was just tired of dealing with AHS.
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Old 07-02-2018, 01:39 PM   #19
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take it... then cancel at your first opportunity.
home warranties are bogus!
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Old 07-02-2018, 01:42 PM   #20
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Also America Home Shield is horrible company to deal with.
I had a horrible experience with them on a water heater. Long story short i was without hot water for a week, before i went and just bought a new one myself. I told them i know me not using them anymore will not put them out of buisness, but they can be dang sure ill run their name into the dirt every chance i get. And this is me keeping my word. Horrribbleeee customer service.

I had a 4 year old and newborn at the time. Bath time was not fun!

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Old 07-02-2018, 01:50 PM   #21
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Ill go a little deeper on my story to save some of yall. The have a "pre existing" clause. They can claim your issue was pre existing and void any coverage.

Try explaining to me how a gas leak.....can be pre existing.....cause they could not.

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Old 07-02-2018, 02:11 PM   #22
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Home Warranty of America is who we have. They took about 2 weeks on the A/C, it was summer, but we had fans, and spending $186 to replace it was better than a few grand.
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Old 07-02-2018, 02:16 PM   #23
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subscribed, this seems like a very interesting thread
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Old 07-02-2018, 02:58 PM   #24
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They will have nothing to do with you after the sell. It doesn't matter who you complain to. Take the warranty and hope you don't need it.
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Old 07-02-2018, 03:24 PM   #25
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Take it. It is a common practice to include this for the buyer. Plus the seller knows a lot more about things that might be in need of replacement in the near future.
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Old 07-02-2018, 03:42 PM   #26
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Common practice gives both buyer and seller some peace of mind if something breaks down
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Old 07-02-2018, 05:45 PM   #27
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Sees screenname
Instantly skeptical.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:36 PM   #28
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Take it..normal offer from many sellers!!

From OUR experience, I totally disagree with the hit's on American Home Shield. My only complaint is it takes sometimes longer than I want for the contractor to show up, but it has saved us a LOT of $$ over the years. I know...could just as easily had bad experiences but ours to date has been very good.

We pay $42/month with a $100 deductible and it has again...saved us a lot of $$ with plumbing issues, refridgerator repair and tankless hot water system replacement. Two years ago my wife's previous home had the AC go out. Yep, she was renting it and paid the $48/month with lesser deductible. Repaired in 2 days and believe me, it was worth it.

Again...we have been pleased!
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:42 PM   #29
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Take it....I have Choice Warranty and have used them 5 times since the end of February. I pay $65 for a visit and the parts are covered under the warranty. A/C issues, plumbing issues and one pool visit. Sure has saved me a LOT of money!

I plan to renew it when the year is up.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:43 PM   #30
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Take it. It's customary. Gratis.

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Old 07-02-2018, 06:46 PM   #31
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Take it and remember to call them FIRST if something happens. Calling them after the fact will waste your time as they won't help cover cost at that point. I learned that the hard way.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:51 PM   #32
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Take it....I have Choice Warranty and have used them 5 times since the end of February. I pay $65 for a visit and the parts are covered under the warranty. A/C issues, plumbing issues and one pool visit. Sure has saved me a LOT of money!

I plan to renew it when the year is up.
What, if I may ask, is the monthly fee? Not familiar with this company but I can switch any time. thanks...kuma
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We have had American home Sheild for 4 years. They have replaced the a/c capacitors 5 times on the a/c s. Most a/c people would have told me a little needed another 5k outside unit. They replaced could on one inside unit. Replaced mother board on my new fridge. Replaced the seal on washing machine. Fixed my dish washer. Repaired 2 small outside fridges. And fixed clogged sinks

So I feel like I'm way ahead of the game
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We pay 70$ a month with $75 service charge
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:08 PM   #35
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Take it and use it!
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I’m not sure as seller paid for it when I purchased at the end of February. I think it was around $700 for the year. It might be worth it to call and price check them. I have no complaints on their service. I do have to call them and use who they send out, but so far each visit has worked out.


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I’m not sure as seller paid for it when I purchased at the end of February. I think it was around $700 for the year. It might be worth it to call and price check them. I have no complaints on their service. I do have to call them and use who they send out, but so far each visit has worked out.


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Well, except Freon...that was not included. But I price checked them before ok’ing it to be put in. They were inline.


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What, if I may ask, is the monthly fee? Not familiar with this company but I can switch any time. thanks...kuma



I’m not sure as a seller paid for it when I purchased at the end of February. I think it was around $700 for the year. It might be worth it to call and price check them. I have no complaints on their service. I do have to call them and use who they send out, but so far each visit has worked out.


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Thanks....close to what we pay depending on deductible I guess. Like you, we are all in favor of these policies, just another insurance type thing but when you need it they pay for themselves.
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:38 PM   #39
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Take it. I decided not to renew mine and my AC went out a couple of months later. Kick-Self-In-Arse!
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:46 PM   #41
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That is the company that we have been using for the past several years and we have never had a bad experience with them.
We've never had a problem with them, either. Got an entire evaporator unit replaced in our old house in Llano with no hassle.
I think we've had appliances repaired through them, as well. It's been awhile since we've used one, though.
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Take it. It is a common practice to include this for the buyer. Plus the seller knows a lot more about things that might be in need of replacement in the near future.
Yep. They may be offering it for their own peace of mind.
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Take it and remember to call them FIRST if something happens. Calling them after the fact will waste your time as they won't help cover cost at that point. I learned that the hard way.
It's been our experience that they require you to use their approved contractors.
It is probably to keep people from filing bogus claims through their brother-in-law.
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It is probably to keep people from filing bogus claims through their brother-in-law.


That is exactly right. I always called who I knew for a quick fix and they don’t like that...


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I’m not sure as seller paid for it when I purchased at the end of February. I think it was around $700 for the year. It might be worth it to call and price check them. I have no complaints on their service. I do have to call them and use who they send out, but so far each visit has worked out.


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I just signed up with them. Price is $450 a year but they quickly dropped it to $380. Call out fee is $60. This covers all appliances, no pool. They even offered 3 years for $1050 and a $45 call out fee. Call them they will negotiate price. Haven’t used it but reviews were better than most.


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Old 07-02-2018, 09:36 PM   #47
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I work for sears Home services doing in Home appliance repair. We deal with lots and lots of home warranty companies. In my experience it seems like the home warranties realtors put on houses when they sell have lots and lots of grey areas. I highly recommend looking into a Sears home warranty. We are the only ones that offer 180 day guarantee on the Work. Some only have 30 day. Also sears home warranty covers the Freon in the hvac including free maintenance twice a year which no one else offers.
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Old 07-03-2018, 04:02 PM   #48
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Take it, it’s a customary thing. With that said, uncle just bought a house. Two weeks later a/c quit cooling. Called home warranty people, they said give us 7 days and we’ll be there. He had another company come repair it. $1100 and the home warranty company wouldn’t reimburse at first. After both realtors called and threatened the home warranty company with no more recommendations, that are giving him $400. Not sure what company it was
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We had a home warranty. 2 weeks into home, hose bib froze and flooded nearest bedroom. Only thing warranty covered was the hose bib replacement...we paid for drywall, etc.
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When we sold our house I looked at it as insurance from the seller side. I didn’t want to get the phone call if 6 months down the road the roof sprang a leak. With the warranty I for sure wouldn’t have to deal with it. It was $500 well spent. On the buyer side I would insist on it.
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