The Bible says who turns there back on Israel then God will turn his back to them .if you think this whole thing is about oil you have been listening to micheal Moore wat too much
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Originally posted by MadHatter View PostNo they are, make no doubt about it, always will be. It's a funny thing.
Another one that makes you scratch your head, why did jesus have to die for the sins of the whole world. We inherited sin from adam, so how was the whole world responsible? We fell from grace when 2 people ate some fruit. Now the whole world has the option to burn in hell...
God’s character cannot allow sin in His presence. It is a level of Love, goodness, purity, etc. that we cannot comprehend. So he put the cookies on the lowest shelf and simply asks that we accept Christ as atonement for our shortcomings. Pride of Man is all that sits between fallen man and His eternal presence.
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Originally posted by Tracy moss View PostThe Bible says who turns there back on Israel then God will turn his back to them .if you think this whole thing is about oil you have been listening to micheal Moore wat too much
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Let’s say you go to one of them big tent meetings they used to have when we were younger and was invited by a saved girlfriend and you heard the gospel and the Holy Spirit moves you and you accepted the lord that night and you was born again instantly if you truly believed Jesus is your savior. And you and that same girl went to get ice cream afterwards and ran a stop sign and got hit by a truck and the boy dies !! He is going to heaven without baptism .. ( I know a dramatic story) just trying to make a point
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Originally posted by MadHatter View PostMan cannot be saved by baptism is merely your point of view. I've met plenty who believe you must be baptized. Who's right, who's wrong? Which religion do you place your bet with?
The way I was raised, they believed in 2 works of grace to get to heaven. Saved and sanctified.
Used to be mind boggling to me.
Every other religion and worldview is based upon dead people or relative teachings backed up by no prophecy whatsoever, aside from false-prophecy, outlined in scripture, that predates those false teachings.
So it’s an obvious choice for me. I don’t need to (read=cannot) put God inside the box (laws of physics) he created in order to understand that He is real and that He offered his son as the final sacrifice...Last edited by woodsman; 03-18-2018, 09:46 PM.
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Originally posted by MadHatter View PostMan cannot be saved by baptism is merely your point of view. I've met plenty who believe you must be baptized. Who's right, who's wrong? Which religion do you place your bet with?
The way I was raised, they believed in 2 works of grace to get to heaven. Saved and sanctified.
Used to be mind boggling to me.
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