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Old 01-10-2018, 04:52 PM   #1
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Iím looking at building a 6.5 Grendel upper and wanted to get some opinions on barrel companies. Iím really wanting a good barrel that can reach out there, 500-700+ yrds. Iím wanting a 20-24Ē barrel and will eventually put a night/thermal on top for pigs.
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Old 01-10-2018, 04:57 PM   #2
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Satern is my choice on barrels. Well made not over priced.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:02 PM   #3
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My Grendel is a one-holer. Satern gets my vote too.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:07 PM   #4
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I'm a big fan of JP. I have a .308 and a grendel. They come with a matched bolt, their not cheap but quality is top notch.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:13 PM   #5
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I have an 18'' Satern on mine and couldn't happier.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:49 PM   #6
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Anyone have the Satern barrel from Brownells?
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:53 PM   #7
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Do not get the Satern Liberty barrels. They are button rifled. Get the Cut rifled ones.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:57 PM   #8
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Satern makes excellent barrels. I just checked though, and man their prices have gone up a lot since I bought mine.

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Old 01-10-2018, 06:01 PM   #9
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Anyone have the Satern barrel from Brownells?
Those are button rifled, like outbreaker said, avoid.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:01 PM   #10
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I have not had that many AR barrels but probably more than lots of folks. All have been budget brands (Ballistic Advantage, BCA, PSA, etc) but my Faxon barrel is far and away my favorite. It's just stupid accurate
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:21 PM   #11
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I run a 20” shilen match that’s a 1 holer at 100. My brother runs the on sale special from psa he got for 99$ also a 1/2” Gun.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:04 PM   #12
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Iíve had good luck with my ballistic advantage barrels. I donít have experience with 6.5, but have a .300 BLK and .223.


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Old 01-10-2018, 08:28 PM   #13
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Don't have a 6.5 but I do have a couple ballistic advantage barrels and for the price they are phenomenal. That said the higher end barrels will be better but like I said for the price they're great


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Old 01-10-2018, 08:31 PM   #14
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What I like about the Satern cut rifled barrels is the ultra fast brake in.

6 shots and it was done laying copper down in droves.

My last cut rate barrel took 150-200 shots.

Great accuracy will not start until the barrel is smooth and it quits laying down copper in droves.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:46 PM   #15
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Does anyone have any experience with the 5R rifling vs standard?
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:54 PM   #16
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Does anyone have any experience with the 5R rifling vs standard?


All of my 5R barrels shoot great, clean super easy and usually give me a nice velocity increase.


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Old 01-10-2018, 11:21 PM   #17
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All of my 5R barrels shoot great, clean super easy and usually give me a nice velocity increase.


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Yes. 5R is great rifling and I have never seen an inaccurate 5r barrel.


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Old 01-10-2018, 11:23 PM   #18
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I'm a big fan of JP. I have a .308 and a grendel. They come with a matched bolt, their F-in EXPENSIVE but quality is top notch.


FIFY

But yes top of the line.


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Old 01-10-2018, 11:24 PM   #19
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Odin Works has done me well
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I have an Anderson and its touching shots at 200, friend of mine has anderson's also and he shoots out to 800.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:31 PM   #21
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My Grendel JP supermatch 22” shoots lights out. Expensive, but buy with confidence.
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My 18" odin shoots a 1/2" group with factory hornady black
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:15 AM   #23
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You ought to try AR Performance barrels, inexpensive and shoot out of this world.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:42 AM   #24
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two things on a AR I would not skimp on - the barrel and the trigger. Buy a good barrel, even if it cost a little extra money.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:26 AM   #26
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All of my 5R barrels shoot great, clean super easy and usually give me a nice velocity increase.


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I didnít know about the easy cleaning but I did read about the added velocity. The 20Ē+ barrels are not as common as the shorter barrels and they seem to be $200 and up for the added length. Is the added length worth the added cost?
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I didnít know about the easy cleaning but I did read about the added velocity. The 20Ē+ barrels are not as common as the shorter barrels and they seem to be $200 and up for the added length. Is the added length worth the added cost?
In the Grendel the jump from 18 to 24 will get you about 200 fps.

I shoot suppressed so I like the 18"bbl.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:18 PM   #28
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I didnít know about the easy cleaning but I did read about the added velocity. The 20Ē+ barrels are not as common as the shorter barrels and they seem to be $200 and up for the added length. Is the added length worth the added cost?


I run a 20Ē on my Grendel AR. I wouldnít want it any longer and may eventually cut it back to 18Ē.

I do run suppressed.

The canted lands on 5R rifling are less prone to fouling.




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Old 01-11-2018, 02:46 PM   #29
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Satern Cut rifled barrels are 5r
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:49 PM   #30
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You ought to try AR Performance barrels, inexpensive and shoot out of this world.
I second the ARP Barrel, I have a 20in 6.5G and a 16in 6.8 SPC that are one hole barrels.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:22 PM   #31
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In the Grendel the jump from 18 to 24 will get you about 200 fps.

I shoot suppressed so I like the 18"bbl.
Is that real world or alexander arms propaganda. I have a hard time believing the g suffers near that bad. That's like worse than creedmoore numbers fps/inch out of something with with 18+ grains less case capacity with 120 or 140 class bullets. I wouldn't build one over 18 either and prefer 16.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:23 PM   #32
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:36 PM   #33
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Is that real world or alexander arms propaganda. I have a hard time believing the g suffers near that bad. That's like worse than creedmoore numbers fps/inch out of something with with 18+ grains less case capacity with 120 or 140 class bullets. I wouldn't build one over 18 either and prefer 16.
That is identical hand loads, one on my 24" gun (sold it) and the other on the 18" build that replaced it.

Most guns I have seen are about 50fps per inch. That is lopping 6 inches off which is about 35fps per inch.
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Wow. I'd have never guessed. Case dimensions I suppose? The test I was referencing

https://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/6-5...p-a-creedmoor/
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Wow. I'd have never guessed. Case dimensions I suppose? The test I was referencing

https://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/6-5...p-a-creedmoor/
Dunno. Just what I observed.
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My grendel has a satern barrel. It will drive tacks.
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JP has some of the best barrels. Second for me is Odin Works. JP carries a nice price tag though
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JP has some of the best barrels. Second for me is Odin Works. JP carries a nice price tag though
I do not like that the JP only comes in a light contour. Especially if you run suppressors.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:13 PM   #40
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I have not had that many AR barrels but probably more than lots of folks. All have been budget brands (Ballistic Advantage, BCA, PSA, etc) but my Faxon barrel is far and away my favorite. It's just stupid accurate
I second faxon, give them a look.
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Do not get the Satern Liberty barrels. They are button rifled. Get the Cut rifled ones.
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Those are button rifled, like outbreaker said, avoid.
I don't discredit the merits of a cut rifled barrel, given the choice that's what i'll pick. But avoid or don't get, not sure i would go that far. Lots of quality bbl's are still button rifled, lilja and others. Still comes down to qc like most things imo.

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ARPerformance barrels are off the chain. Most accurate barrels I have used.
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I don't discredit the merits of a cut rifled barrel, given the choice that's what i'll pick. But avoid or don't get, not sure i would go that far. Lots of quality bbl's are still button rifled, lilja and others. Still comes down to qc like most things imo.

3 at 110 off a bipod. Factory amax

Not so much a thing against button rifled barrels, two of my best shooters are a Larue and a BHW barrels. It's more so the liberty button barrels aren't (in my opinion) up to the same quality as some other button barrel manufacturers (and they angered a few folks over on arfcom with a group buy if I recall: short chambers). If I'm going button rifled, I'd go elsewhere. Now for their cut rifled Satern barrels, you can't go wrong.
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Ah. I could take issue with that as well. I got a good one I suppose. For under $400 out the door with a bolt and a few common sizes usually on the shelf they're hard to pass it they shoot like mine did
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JP offers a medium contour also...
Only in the 20" per their website. Not in the 18". I prefer heavy or med/heavy anyway.
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Old 01-14-2018, 02:03 AM   #47
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Anyone ever tried an AR-stoner barrel from midway? They have good reviews and are pretty cheap.
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Anyone ever tried an AR-stoner barrel from midway? They have good reviews and are pretty cheap.
Tried other Stoner products. Never again.
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