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Old 05-25-2018, 03:35 PM   #1
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Default Fraud in a fishing Tournament - Decker Lake Austin TX

This is my go to lake. 10 miles east of downtown, It was impounded in 1967. TPWD has stocked millions of florida largemouth, guadalupe, catfish and stripes. Excellent fishing for bass and catfish.
Some people will do anything to win. Surely, Y'all have some stories of your own about 'poor sport' cheaters. What have you seen or heard of cheaters that will do anything to win?

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Old 05-25-2018, 03:39 PM   #2
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Don't forget this guy...

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Old 05-25-2018, 03:42 PM   #3
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is that the same as walter e. long lake?
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:04 PM   #4
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A guy got busted in matagorda for cheating in STAR tournament for catching a tagged redfish and giving it to his brother or son who was registered for the STAR winning a boat , all were charged with fraud after bragging then failure of a polygraph
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:25 PM   #5
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Anything for a WIN...……...just sad state of affairs!
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:38 PM   #6
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Lead weights stuffed into the belly.
Cutting the tail to shorten length on slot lakes.
Catching fish days before the tournament begins and keeping them alive to weigh in on tournament day.
Using live bait to catch fish during tournaments designated as artificial only.
Telephoning.
Snagging.
The list goes on & on.
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:06 PM   #7
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It seems allot of people in the kayak circuit know this guy. It sounds like there will be charges across multiple counties.


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Old 05-25-2018, 05:08 PM   #8
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is that the same as walter e. long lake?
Yepper!
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:15 PM   #9
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If there's a way to cheat,somebody will......with anything.

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Old 05-25-2018, 05:20 PM   #10
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If there's a way to cheat,somebody will......with anything.

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Old 05-25-2018, 05:23 PM   #11
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And spend more time, effort, money in doing so than the reward
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:35 PM   #12
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chump... out to lose his license for life.
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:51 PM   #13
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is that the same as walter e. long lake?
Yes its the same. Lake Walter E Long aka Decker Lake
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:32 PM   #14
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In golf scrambles the last score happens to be the best score of the day.
Especially if there is a purse involved
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:13 PM   #15
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Money talks
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:27 PM   #16
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If’n ya ain’t cheatin, ya ain’t tryna!
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:39 PM   #17
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Cheating has been going on forever. Even in our little local tournaments where you might win 150 dollars. It's all about ego!
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:29 PM   #18
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I just don't get it.

I've never thought of hunting and fishing as competitive sports.
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:55 PM   #19
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Get A Rope!!!
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:23 PM   #20
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A guy I graduated from high school with was an up and comer on the fishing circuit years ago until he got busted cheating. If I remember right he got caught putting lead weights in them. After he got busted I heard all kinds of rumors on different ways he had been cheating during tournaments.
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Old 05-26-2018, 06:59 AM   #21
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One of the reasons I quit competitive shooting. I seen 60 year old men shooting the same targets and lie about it. I was at a state match, my spotter and I were lined up on the 500 meter targets and the team next to us was cheating real bad. His spotter would take a clipboard and shade the shooter's sights, then the guy shot my target by accident(twice). He pulled out two more rounds of ammo and finished. All that over a 20.00 trophy.
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Old 05-26-2018, 07:16 AM   #22
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Seems like a lot of work to win a couple of hundred bucks at a local tourney.
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Old 05-26-2018, 07:20 AM   #23
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Seems like a lot of work to win a couple of hundred bucks at a local tourney.
Yes sir, purty sad
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Old 05-26-2018, 07:32 AM   #24
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A guy I graduated from high school with was an up and comer on the fishing circuit years ago until he got busted cheating. If I remember right he got caught putting lead weights in them. After he got busted I heard all kinds of rumors on different ways he had been cheating during tournaments.
Your friends name Robbery Rose?
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:52 AM   #25
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Yep. We need a lot more ropes.


This is oddly one reason I like playing poker with old school guys. Just the fact that if someone was caught cheating they would be lucky to make it out alive.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #26
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Yep. We need a lot more ropes.


This is oddly one reason I like playing poker with old school guys. Just the fact that if someone was caught cheating they would be lucky to make it out alive.
That's still the case at just about any poker game, anywhere, new school or old school. You're getting jacked up, if you get caught.
Pool has gotta be the worst. Whoever cheats the best, wins, and the old school guys are the worst . Rob you 10 ways to sunday, and you never know lol.
"Money is the root of all evil". Truest words ever penned to paper.
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Old 05-26-2018, 11:38 AM   #27
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That's still the case at just about any poker game, anywhere, new school or old school. You're getting jacked up, if you get caught.
Pool has gotta be the worst. Whoever cheats the best, wins, and the old school guys are the worst . Rob you 10 ways to sunday, and you never know lol.
"Money is the root of all evil". Truest words ever penned to paper.
You are sure right about pool. Every where you go to a local tournament there will be a couple of has been hustlers that dont have enough game to win but they still have 50 years of hustlin tricks.
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Old 05-26-2018, 12:13 PM   #28
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Did it ever give a name of the kayak cheatin fisherman?


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Old 05-26-2018, 12:36 PM   #29
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That's still the case at just about any poker game, anywhere, new school or old school. You're getting jacked up, if you get caught.

Pool has gotta be the worst. Whoever cheats the best, wins, and the old school guys are the worst . Rob you 10 ways to sunday, and you never know lol.

"Money is the root of all evil". Truest words ever penned to paper.


This is one of the most misquoted quotes itís actually the love of money...quite a difference. I get your point though it still applies to what your saying


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Old 05-26-2018, 05:23 PM   #30
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Your friends name Robbery Rose?
Nope. His first name was Ryan. Last I heard he is a teacher in Texas somewhere now.
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Old 05-26-2018, 11:25 PM   #31
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Nope. His first name was Ryan. Last I heard he is a teacher in Texas somewhere now.
Lovelace? I was in a regional tourney against him a few years ago he actually won, they DQ'd him the next day and took back his winnings after one of the other anglers protested he had been caught cheating before. Have no clue if he cheated in that tourney or not, but general rule some don't know is if you've ever been confirmed cheating your not eligible to compete again, ever.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:42 AM   #32
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If you ainít cheating, you ainít trying.


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Old 05-27-2018, 10:50 AM   #33
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Prolly gonna end up with vest cams like officers have to wear!

With officers it ended up showing most were true blue and a LOT of people lie!
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Old 05-27-2018, 11:59 AM   #34
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Did it ever give a name of the kayak cheatin fisherman?
"TPWD says the fisherman, identified as Brent Taylor, 30, of West, Texas, submitted questionable photos of his catch to the tournament on Walter E. Long Lake"
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Old 05-27-2018, 03:48 PM   #35
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Lovelace? I was in a regional tourney against him a few years ago he actually won, they DQ'd him the next day and took back his winnings after one of the other anglers protested he had been caught cheating before. Have no clue if he cheated in that tourney or not, but general rule some don't know is if you've ever been confirmed cheating your not eligible to compete again, ever.
That would be him.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:02 PM   #36
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That would be him.
Seems he just got caught again. This time captaining for a HS team on Texoma. Hopefully they get the charges to stick this time.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:14 PM   #37
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Interesting you bring up Ryan Lovelace. This came out today,,,,, Seems like he has a past history?

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Ma...509904671.html
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:18 PM   #38
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sad deal... that is why I stopped fishing the highest speckled trout trmnts... spent my whole life and most of my $ figuring out big trout, with too much pride to hire a guide/network/or use live/dead bait....basically, the hard way..started fishing tournaments, and did surprisingly well..

one trnmt, while waiting for polygraph results/checks, the 2nd place team told us(1st place team) they would have finished 1st if they hadn't lost a big trout at x:31 time... I said, 'that's 29 minutes before legal fishing time!!!.. he said, 'it's just 29 minutes'.....I protested him every chance I got after that, and he ended up getting caught by the trnmt director...banned him for life..but..big BUT, other trnmts still let him fish, even though he has been caught doing some outrageous things over the years... the trnmts don't really care I think....just want the entry fee so they can take 10-15%

he still fishes them to this day... I've always heard he was a good fisherman, and didn't need to cheat...............
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:31 PM   #39
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I fished Sharkathon on PINS a handful of years ago and, as I remember, the 1st place was disqualified for yaking out the bait that caught the big shark before the tournament began. I think they caught him by polygraph.
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:36 PM   #41
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That's cool you brought this back up

I fished Decker this morning
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:47 PM   #42
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That doesn't look remotely normal.
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I fish kayak tourneys and the money is pretty minimal compared to the fine this guy is going to get.
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I use to fish Ice Fishing Tourneys up north, I busted some guys that brought some huge "frozen" lake trout from some other lake early in the morning to let them thaw a bit before entering them. I happened to see them bringing the fish out of their truck and onto the ice. I turned them in, hate cheaters. I did win a nice Cabela's Moose print that day.
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:58 PM   #45
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What am I missing here? They cheat and should be punished but to me that punishment should be within the sport, etc. Bans, fines, etc.

I'm not sure I agree with jail, fines, etc for cheating in a fishing tournament. To me that would be the same as using a loaded bat in a baseball/softball tournament and I can't imagine having the law involved in something like that. Or maybe more relevant, Barry Bonds being arrested for cheating in baseball. He maybe should have been arrested for illegal substances but not for cheating even in MLB...
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What am I missing here? They cheat and should be punished but to me that punishment should be within the sport, etc. Bans, fines, etc.

I'm not sure I agree with jail, fines, etc for cheating in a fishing tournament. To me that would be the same as using a loaded bat in a baseball/softball tournament and I can't imagine having the law involved in something like that. Or maybe more relevant, Barry Bonds being arrested for cheating in baseball. He maybe should have been arrested for illegal substances but not for cheating even in MLB...
When the Prize money is big dollars you are committing fraud
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:05 PM   #47
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Used to fish the Oilman's tournament on Toledo Bend. Those Louisiana boys won just about every time. Some of those bass were scarred up like a logging mule. You know, like they might have been in a live box for a couple weeks.........
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I saw this on the news last night. I am not shocked but the thing that does irritate me about this one is that he is suppose to be setting an example for those kids as a teacher and mentor. Not a good example to set for the youth.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:41 PM   #49
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Next thing you know they’ll be raising bass to enter in contests. Like they do in the deer contests.
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