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Old 10-23-2018, 09:11 PM   #1
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Question Who Feeds Medicated Protein?

Does anyone on here feed medicated protein? We medicate our herd twice a year spring/fall with LnE medicated. Kills all internal and external parasites and during the summer they don't get that drab heat spot look.
Last year all our deer harvested except one didn't have a tick on them. We are low fence so that's not a surprise that we had one that possibly didn't eat our feed.
Seems like it has made a huge difference on live weight, and obviously horn growth since the bucks are spending their energy growing horns and not feeding ticks....
If you're feeding it have you noticed a difference in your herd?
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:16 PM   #2
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Never herd of that
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:28 PM   #3
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how much $ does it cost?
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:33 PM   #4
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how much $ does it cost?
Ours is a little more expensive then it would be on the US side. We have to pay a shipping fee to cross feed. We pay about $18 a bag but its probably around $16 on the US side.
I buy a ton in the spring and a ton in the fall, the deer only need about 3 mouthfuls to medicate themselves.
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That is good information. I appreciate it. Will do this at our place.
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:25 PM   #6
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That is good information. I appreciate it. Will do this at our place.
If you try it let me know how your deer react to it of you don't mind, if you notice increased body weight and over all healthier deer with less ticks.
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What's the brand name? I'm assuming you are feeding this free choice? I'm considering feeding protein this next year and may mix some of it with another protein feed.

That's interesting that their coats don't get the splotchy look. I really noticed that this past time I was at the lease. I wondered if it was heat/stress related or some kind of parasite/infection.
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can you do it in the US? for livestock medicated feed needs a vet prescription and they cannot or at least are not supposed to write one without seeing the animal. I would think with a wild herd of deer that would be hard
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They need a good medicated feed and wormer every so often. Just like any other animal
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We feed Lyssy and Eckel. That have a specific blend that acts like a wormer and kills all parasites. Yes it's free choice. We run a round through them in March and September, its crazy how much healthier our herd looks than even our neighbors.
My east neighbor stopped me and commented on our deer last trip, asking what we were feeding them.
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can you do it in the US? for livestock medicated feed needs a vet prescription and they cannot or at least are not supposed to write one without seeing the animal. I would think with a wild herd of deer that would be hard
As far as I know it's perfectly legal. We give it to ours twice a year and helps out a ton.
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What is the meat withdrawal time of these wormers?
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:12 AM   #13
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I used to feed a medicated protein in the spring from Palmers Feed in San Angelo but they stopped selling it a couple of years ago, maybe 2016. If I remember right they told me that it was no longer available due to some law change.
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What is the meat withdrawal time of these wormers?
Our last round is fed in September, and we dont open until mid November so that's plenty of time. If you need exact times I'd look at the LnE website.
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As far as I know it's perfectly legal. We give it to ours twice a year and helps out a ton.
What brand are you feeding and what kind of results are you seeing?
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:19 PM   #16
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Good thread and information.
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Good thread and information.
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First round in the spring I do medicated to help get them over the rut injuries. It helps get them healed up so their bodies can focus on getting antler growth optimized. We use L&E also.

I have another thought however. A level plane of food is just as critical. We started cottonseed in January and ran it through September. We then added protein into the mix starting in late February. We have seen a big jump in our 2-4 yr old bucks. Live weights are massive this year.
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I was just on MG's website and it looks like they offer a medicated protein for deworming.
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We have been feeding 1 full round of medicated pellets per year since around 2008 or so. It has a small Antibiotic dose but mainly focused on the wormer dose it includes. We use ADM and it usually cost around $14 to $15 per bag. We usually feed it right before it gets real hot (late May early June time frame).
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First round in the spring I do medicated to help get them over the rut injuries. It helps get them healed up so their bodies can focus on getting antler growth optimized. We use L&E also.

I have another thought however. A level plane of food is just as critical. We started cottonseed in January and ran it through September. We then added protein into the mix starting in late February. We have seen a big jump in our 2-4 yr old bucks. Live weights are massive this year.
Absolutely. The medicated feed is just one piece of our management plan, I was just curious how many others were feeding it. We feed from February to October 20 percent LnE. Our 4 year olds have taken a huge jump this year... not just horns but their body size is unreal for that age.
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Old 10-24-2018, 03:39 PM   #23
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I used to use the dewormer/medicated feed. I did not see a huge difference.
One of the cons to it is the deer become accustomed to having this in there diet and it might compromise there immunity to natural disease. Deer have built up a natural immunity to various diseases and parasites and in the long run they may loose that ability if you continue to feed it to natural free ranging deer. I am not a biologist, just repeating what I have heard.
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What brand are you feeding and what kind of results are you seeing?
We've been feeding L&E as well and are seeing bigger body weights and just an overall healthier animals. Coats look better as well. We had a few thay you could tell had some kinda worm or looked like they did. Huge bellies but hips and ribs showing none of that now. We cut off all the other feeders and feed the medicated feed until it's gone then do the same two weeks later to try and get any that missed it.
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I used to use the dewormer/medicated feed. I did not see a huge difference.
One of the cons to it is the deer become accustomed to having this in there diet and it might compromise there immunity to natural disease. Deer have built up a natural immunity to various diseases and parasites and in the long run they may loose that ability if you continue to feed it to natural free ranging deer. I am not a biologist, just repeating what I have heard.
I actually sat through a seminar that Mr. Eckles put on and this was one of the subjects he touched on. In their studies they found that medicated feed if used properly only helps improve the herd and in no way affects their natural immune system.

I'm sure the key word there is properly. If a herd was living off it I could see where it could weaken their system.
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We've been feeding L&E as well and are seeing bigger body weights and just an overall healthier animals. Coats look better as well. We had a few thay you could tell had some kinda worm or looked like they did. Huge bellies but hips and ribs showing none of that now. We cut off all the other feeders and feed the medicated feed until it's gone then do the same two weeks later to try and get any that missed it.
Exactly what we're seeing also. The first thing I noticed after we started was their coats, I couldn't believe the difference as I compared them to the year before in the same time period.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:47 AM   #27
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I’ve been using a wormer in feed every spring at green up for years both La and Mexico. It makes sense to me that reducing or eliminating the parasitic load can only help. I hate finding deer with a bazillion ticks on them. Can’t be good. I don’t buy the idea that worming deer may create immunity problems. What I know for sure is that deer without wormer can be loaded with internal and external parasites. Reducing or eliminating that can only help just like w any mammal
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Good information! We're going to start this on the next go around of protein.
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I feed the LE brand to my pen fallow deer. They do well on it.
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Good information! We're going to start this on the next go around of protein.
Good luck! Please respond back on this post when you see results if any... I like to hear how its affecting other herds good or bad...
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Iíve been using a wormer in feed every spring at green up for years both La and Mexico. It makes sense to me that reducing or eliminating the parasitic load can only help. I hate finding deer with a bazillion ticks on them. Canít be good. I donít buy the idea that worming deer may create immunity problems. What I know for sure is that deer without wormer can be loaded with internal and external parasites. Reducing or eliminating that can only help just like w any mammal

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Yes we do it but before you get all ready to do it, get a sample of your deer droppings, (must be fresh, you have 5 days from time of sample to having it checked). Take this sample to L/E and they will run it to see if you have the need for the medicated protein. If you do, then L/E will tell you how to feed it.
I think the way we did it was.....You will need to fill your protein feeders about 1/3 full, or they will tell you how much of the medicated protein, (nothing else in it) and let the deer eat....once it is gone go back to regular protein....
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This is a joke right?
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We do it 4 times a year, the owner is a Veterinarian and checks samples before and after, we do see the difference.
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This is a joke right?
Why would you say that? Absolutely not.
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We do it 4 times a year, the owner is a Veterinarian and checks samples before and after, we do see the difference.
Wow, good deal. Never heard of anyone doing it 4 times a year
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Wow, good deal. Never heard of anyone doing it 4 times a year


You kill all the unhatched eggs with the first round, come back in another 2-3 weeks and do it again to kill off the rest. We do that twice, guess itís only twice a year but do it 4 times.


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You kill all the unhatched eggs with the first round, come back in another 2-3 weeks and do it again to kill off the rest. We do that twice, guess itís only twice a year but do it 4 times.


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Gotcha... good deal! I'm sure it's made a tremendous difference on your herd.

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We started feeding the wormer in the spring also. Think this is our second year to do it. We get ours in Mexico same type as Elgato uses figure it cant hurt. we have been feeding protein for many years thinks it makes pretty big difference in heard. Wish I could afford to feed more.
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Good information we may think about implementing this on our feeding in February so they can recover from the stresses of winter and the rut.
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I didn't know you could get this. I will absolutely do this after the season is over. I was trying to figure out a way to spray the wild deer with permethrin effectively. Thanks.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:15 AM   #42
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Anyone know where to get a medicated protein in North TX??
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We started feeding the wormer in the spring also. Think this is our second year to do it. We get ours in Mexico same type as Elgato uses figure it cant hurt. we have been feeding protein for many years thinks it makes pretty big difference in heard. Wish I could afford to feed more.
Great feed with proven results! Nothing wrong with that!
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We feed it this year for the first time. Didn't notice any difference at all . We did 2 times about a month apart.

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We feed it this year for the first time. Didn't notice any difference at all . We did 2 times about a month apart.

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Will this kill ticks on Mule Deer?
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I'm sure it would. I know it also works on exotics.

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We will be feeding this year in the spring.....l
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