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Old 08-13-2017, 03:59 PM   #1
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Moved to San Angelo recently from the desert of West Texas so dont know any of the plant names. It is some sort of vine with thorns. Want to clear it out from under a huge pecan tree so the animals can get to the pecans and so I can hunt out if the pecan tree. Pics coming shortly.


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Old 08-13-2017, 04:01 PM   #2
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Gonna hang a ladder stand on the left side




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Old 08-13-2017, 04:06 PM   #3
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Looks like what I just call green briar. Only way I know how to kill it is dig up the roots, which will have a "tater like" root.
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:08 PM   #4
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That looks like greenbriar to me. Deer nip the tops when they're tender.
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:20 PM   #5
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Greenbrier, very good deer browse.
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:59 PM   #6
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Never tried to kill it before, but it's just as bad dead as alive (poking and pricking). Long sleeve shirt, good leather gloves and yank it out and clip it at ground level.
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:04 PM   #7
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24-D or Grazon
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:05 PM   #8
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Greenbrier, very good deer browse.
This ^^^^ I would not kill it.
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:09 PM   #9
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Just mow it, don't worry about killing it, just mow it a couple times a year.
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:20 PM   #10
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24-D or Grazon
This was honestly the answer I was looking for. I was hoping 24D would kill it.

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This ^^^^ I would not kill it.
Nope it is gonna die. I don't want to fight it getting in and out of the stand. Plus it will probably climb the stand and at the least take over the couple bottom steps. They can eat on all the rest of this crap that is in other places down the creek.

Besides they will have an all you can eat pecan buffet under that tree here in about a month so not to worried about browse. Plus I am going to be feeding corn about 30 yards from that tree so they will have plenty of feed.

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Just mow it, don't worry about killing it, just mow it a couple times a year.
That is way to much work, I hate working a lawn mower in the yard let alone trying to mow this mess. When I can spray it then come in after and knock it out and then keep it beat back with spray yearly why would I deal with a weed eater or lawn mower?
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:27 PM   #11
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:29 PM   #12
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Deer eat pecans??
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:58 PM   #13
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That my man is "deer candy", aka Green Briar, aka Cat Claw. I wouldn't kill it. Put your stand up and don't worry about it. I might would trim it back.
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:32 PM   #14
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Cut with a weed eater and spray cut stick ups right after you cut with 24D. It's easier to pull out of trees when green. Trees around my house were covered in it when we bought the place. Been battling the crap for 3 years now. Digging the root will for sure git rid of it but cutting and spraying makes a big difference.
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:01 PM   #15
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Green briar.
Remedy mixed 2 oz per gallon will kill it.
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:04 PM   #16
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That's greenbrier and deer love it.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:09 PM   #17
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Deer eat pecans??
This is what I was thinking...

So you're going to kill something deer love to eat so you can hunt over something they don't eat?
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:09 PM   #18
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For the folks that don't believe deer will eat pecans from our very own TBH

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=107159

Deer, pigs, turkeys, javelinas, coyotes, foxes, just about everything will eat a pecan if they can get to it. And yes I am more than willing to kill one of 80 vine clumps that happens to be where I want to put a stand. Rather then deal with the thorny devil plant. Yall are nuts for fighting with this junk instead of killing it when this stuff is literally everywhere, I aint gonna be hurting the deer by killing one clump of a stupid thorny vine.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:47 PM   #19
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We have that under almost every oak tree in our area. I have honestly not found a chemical that will get rid of it completely. Remedy and diesel is the best I found but it came back in a couple years.
You will bleed some but, I prefer to use a machete, on small areas, and cut it at the ground. I just push it at an angle with my foot and hold the vines down and cut it at the base of the vine. It's going to come back but, is easy to maintain when its just starting to sprout.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:05 PM   #20
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Nope it is gonna die. I don't want to fight it getting in and out of the stand. Plus it will probably climb the stand and at the least take over the couple bottom steps. They can eat on all the rest of this crap that is in other places down the creek.

Besides they will have an all you can eat pecan buffet under that tree here in about a month so not to worried about browse. Plus I am going to be feeding corn about 30 yards from that tree so they will have plenty of feed.
Pecans only produce for a short period of time and won't produce every year. Greenbrier will produce every year and most of the year to boot. With a corn feeder there the deer will eat it back down to ground level while browsing it.
Be careful what you spray it with to kill so you don't kill your all you can eat Pecan buffet. I would start trapping coons cause they will clean up on pecans also. Then there will be the hogs....
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:33 PM   #21
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Yeah, they will eat pecans, but the GB is better for them
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:48 PM   #22
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For the folks that don't believe deer will eat pecans from our very own TBH

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=107159

Deer, pigs, turkeys, javelinas, coyotes, foxes, just about everything will eat a pecan if they can get to it. And yes I am more than willing to kill one of 80 vine clumps that happens to be where I want to put a stand. Rather then deal with the thorny devil plant. Yall are nuts for fighting with this junk instead of killing it when this stuff is literally everywhere, I aint gonna be hurting the deer by killing one clump of a stupid thorny vine.
TBH'rs also thought mixing pea gravel with your corn was a good idea....

I would trim it back slightly just enough to make a clear path where I could walk and get in blind. Deer do actually eat it.

Best of luck in whatever you do. Be careful what you spray on it to kill it, it might affect the tree as well.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:08 AM   #23
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Do whatever you want but know that pecans are extremely sensitive to chemicals
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:39 AM   #24
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I have massive amounts of that green briar as well. I need to take the sprayer out to it. I have it growing up the stand and growing up smaller trees and killing them. trust me if you were to see the amount of this stuff on my property I dont think a 100gallon sprayer would even put a dent in it.

There are some places that I can not even get to because the briars are so thick!
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:09 AM   #25
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:12 AM   #26
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Every chemical listed will also impact your pecan through the soil. Man up and chop chop. Use it to your advantage, put the deer in your shooting lane.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:52 AM   #27
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Round up is much cheaper than 2,4 - D, and depending on where you are, you will need a spray permit on top of your applicators license to apply it. 2,4 - D can also damage and kill those trees.

I kill it with Round up at 2.5 - 3 oz per gallon. Mix it with a surfactant, spray the bottom 2' of it around the vines. While you can kill it now, it is best to spray it in the spring / early summer.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:32 AM   #28
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Forget the chemicals. Just dig it up. Once you get that "tater" out of the ground, it won't grow back. Then just replace it with something that is user friendly, like honeysuckle.
Yes, deer may browse on it, but they will only eat the leaves. It's that vine that will tear your arse up. And I've never seen a deer make a B line to a green briar.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:36 AM   #29
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not sure if you need to dig up the root but a broad leaf killer should work, but unless you want a dried up version of what is currently alive it maybe better to just dig it up.
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