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Old 01-05-2017, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default Google is no help....so here's my electrical question....

Can the main breaker panel for a dwelling be located inside the garage now?

I'm outside of any enforced code area, but still want to do it correctly.

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Old 01-05-2017, 12:28 PM   #2
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Mine was inside the garage when I lived in El Paso


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Old 01-05-2017, 12:29 PM   #3
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don't see why not, its the best place.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:30 PM   #4
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Mine is inside the garage but, the house was built in '67. Seems like a really good and logical place to put it.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:32 PM   #5
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It can be anywhere in the house. Closets, hallways, etc...

Mine is located in my pantry.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:32 PM   #6
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Mine is inside the garage built in 1999
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:34 PM   #7
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It can be anywhere in the house. Closets, hallways, etc...

Mine is located in my pantry.
Nope, can't be in a closet or pantry any longer. Garage is okay
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:34 PM   #8
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Are you talking about having the meter on the exterior and the main breaker and 220's inside the house along with all other smaller breakers?
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:40 PM   #9
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I just went through this on a new install. If you're outside the city (ie not subject to city fire codes) the electrical provider can tell you what they'll service and what they won't. My electrician got a diagram from the electrical service provider and set it up to meet their specs. The electrician says the provider in an unincorportated area is the 'local authority' and sets the specs. The electric co rep came out and said what the electricain told me was correct.

Long story short, if the electric co says its ok, it's ok.

Electricians, don't shoot the messenger. Just repeating what i was told by a guy who knows what he's talking about.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:41 PM   #10
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Are you talking about having the meter on the exterior and the main breaker and 220's inside the house along with all other smaller breakers?
Yes
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:41 PM   #11
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I just went through this on a new install. If you're outside the city (ie not subject to city fire codes) the electrical provider can tell you what they'll service and what they won't. My electrician got a diagram from the electrical service provider and set it up to meet their specs. The electrician says the provider in an unincorportated area is the 'local authority' and sets the specs. The electric co rep came out and said what the electricain told me was correct.

Long story short, if the electric co says its ok, it's ok.

Electricians, don't shoot the messenger. Just repeating what i was told by a guy who knows what he's talking about.
Excellent. Calling now
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:43 PM   #12
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I live outside the city limits of Bullard and my house is an 05-06 built home. The breaker box is in the garage. Just inside the wall from the outside meter.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:44 PM   #13
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Absolutely
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:47 PM   #14
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I don't see why a provider would let you put the meter inside the house or garage. I have never seen one done that way.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:49 PM   #15
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Garage or exterior is the normal now. Closets and bathrooms are not allowed. Most new construction is in the garage though.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:51 PM   #16
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My house was built in the 30's maybe. A plumbing fixture I had to replace had a date of 1934 on it....
Anyways my breaker box is in the outside of the house, on the side of the front corner......,
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I don't see why a provider would let you put the meter inside the house or garage. I have never seen one done that way.


He said Meyer out side main inside

Yes it's legal


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Old 01-05-2017, 12:56 PM   #18
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It's legal in most counties, however I recommend contacting the city. The NEC varies by city.


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Old 01-05-2017, 01:59 PM   #19
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That was like the shortest answer ever...., "NEC"

And this....




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Old 01-05-2017, 02:02 PM   #20
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I don't see why a provider would let you put the meter inside the house or garage. I have never seen one done that way.
I intend for the meter base and meter to be outside....


But now they don't even come by to read them anymore, they just drove by and catch the signal.

(We already have a meter on the property that services the barn and well and our little office, so the new meter will just be for the house itself)
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Old 01-05-2017, 03:10 PM   #21
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Mine is inside the garage. Built the house in 2007
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Old 01-05-2017, 03:19 PM   #22
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I intend for the meter base and meter to be outside....


But now they don't even come by to read them anymore, they just drove by and catch the signal.

(We already have a meter on the property that services the barn and well and our little office, so the new meter will just be for the house itself)
They are past that now in some areas, there are receivers on some of the main poles that read all the meters in a certain radius and then send the information back to the office.
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The shower would be the most logical place...
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Old 01-05-2017, 03:31 PM   #24
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The shower would be the most logical place...
well, sure, but what if you are in the bathtub using the hair dryer (or a toaster) and a breaker trips?

then you gotta get out, walk to the shower, and flip it back on.
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Just make sure you test it with your tongue and all should be good.
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well, sure, but what if you are in the bathtub using the hair dryer (or a toaster) and a breaker trips?



then you gotta get out, walk to the shower, and flip it back on.


You need one of the shower/tub combo deals



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Old 01-05-2017, 04:42 PM   #27
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Default Google is no help....so here's my electrical question....

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I just went through this on a new install. If you're outside the city (ie not subject to city fire codes) the electrical provider can tell you what they'll service and what they won't. My electrician got a diagram from the electrical service provider and set it up to meet their specs. The electrician says the provider in an unincorportated area is the 'local authority' and sets the specs. The electric co rep came out and said what the electricain told me was correct.

Long story short, if the electric co says its ok, it's ok.

Electricians, don't shoot the messenger. Just repeating what i was told by a guy who knows what he's talking about.


I would question whether your guy knows what he's talking about or not. The utility providers responsibility and jurisdiction stops at the meter base. Everything beyond that is customer property. Additionally they are under a completely different set of regulations.


To answer the phone he question, yes meter base and riser or underground outside on the wall nipple through the wall into the panel in the garage is perfectly acceptable.

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Old 01-05-2017, 04:55 PM   #28
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I would question whether your guy knows what he's talking about or not. The utility providers responsibility and jurisdiction stops at the meter base. Everything beyond that is customer property. Additionally they are under a completely different set of regulations.


To answer the phone he question, yes meter base and riser or underground outside on the wall nipple through the wall into the panel in the garage is perfectly acceptable.

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What Mike said above. Iy really doesn't matter if an "inspector" is going to look at it or not, you still want it done correctly. The TDLR governs all of Texas, even in the county. Don't let them catch ya doing electrical work without a license!
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Old 01-05-2017, 05:01 PM   #29
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I've got one in a closet off the master bedroom and one in my garage.
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:25 PM   #30
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I'm not saying you can't put a panel in the bedroom closet, I'm just saying you shouldn't.
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:57 PM   #31
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I would question whether your guy knows what he's talking about or not. The utility providers responsibility and jurisdiction stops at the meter base. Everything beyond that is customer property. Additionally they are under a completely different set of regulations.


To answer the phone he question, yes meter base and riser or underground outside on the wall nipple through the wall into the panel in the garage is perfectly acceptable.

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I got that story from electric delivery company too. I believed them. I had to replace a
Bunch after a tornado they said I had to meet their inspection before they replaced meter.
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