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Old 04-02-2018, 10:24 AM   #1
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I feel like I have hit a dead end at my current job and have been wanting to explore different options. I am on linked in and have been browsing to see what is out there. I honestly do not know what I want to do. I just would like to explore other opportunities that would allow us to be more comfortable and have a little fun for a change. My question is, how does one get an opportunity in a new field when they want years of experience to even get in a decent pay range? You don't get the opportunity to speak with someone face to face to prove that despite the lack of experience you could excel at the task at hand. I'm sure I rambled on this morning. I am just not sure how to get where I would like to go. thanks
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:29 AM   #2
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It's who you know.

If there's a field you know you want in then you have to start small for less money sometimes. Then, if you do very good, don't be afraid to ask for a promotion. Problem is (and I don't know your age) a lot of young people think they are good when they are not...and demand a raise/promotion.
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:35 AM   #3
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It's who you know.
Dead on. Applying on linkedin is the next closest thing to throwing your resume in the trash. Introductions are priceless. Start telling your buddies that you're looking for something new. Remind them every couple weeks. Eventually something will pop up, and with their recommendation you'll be given a shot.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:44 AM   #4
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I spent 18 years in a field and then about 7 years ago made a career change. it is totally who you know. If it is a big company you will probably not get past HR if your experience isn't what they are looking for. Unless you have some very generic skills that are used across multiple professions, but even then it is typically industry specific.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:48 AM   #5
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What do you do now? My company's HQ is in FTW and many of our people live in Burleson. I could try to match you up with an opening if you have the right experience.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:50 PM   #6
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It's who you know.

If there's a field you know you want in then you have to start small for less money sometimes. Then, if you do very good, don't be afraid to ask for a promotion. Problem is (and I don't know your age) a lot of young people think they are good when they are not...and demand a raise/promotion.
that's the issue now is that most people I know are in the same job field. I am 35 with a family so it is difficult to take the initial financial hit most jobs would take to start over. I never intended to be in the field I am in so while it provides for my family, I always wonder what else is out there that would allow me to provide better for my family and our future

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What do you do now? My company's HQ is in FTW and many of our people live in Burleson. I could try to match you up with an opening if you have the right experience.
I have been in the oilfield the last 7 years after I got out of college. I have been in our chemical department the last 3.5 years. I have a bachelors degree (agriculture extension and industry) Never used the multi quote feature, so I hope I didn't butcher it too bad
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Old 04-02-2018, 01:15 PM   #7
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No help here but wish you the best of luck with your search. I am in for info as I will be looking over the next few years (3.5) but think I need to start looking now.
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Old 04-02-2018, 02:33 PM   #8
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No help here but wish you the best of luck with your search. I am in for info as I will be looking over the next few years (3.5) but think I need to start looking now.
That is why I want to start as well. We already went through one buyout and as I get older I may not fare as well on the next go around. Just looking to get a start while I can
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Old 04-02-2018, 02:52 PM   #9
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What field are you looking at going in? You have a Ag background so there should be some opportunities out there for you.
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Old 04-02-2018, 02:54 PM   #10
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I am in the same boat. I am 25 been working offshore for almost 5 years now, I started as a trainee finally got promoted to the next position sat at that position for a year finally about time I was ready for a evaluation for a promotion oil slump hit and we got a pay cut. Sat at that same position riding out the oil slump finally got laid off then hired back on 8 months later at the same position and pay rate.. Now they are hiring people for positions above me that come out to the rig that I end up training because they dont know nothing.. I ask for a promotion but they arent giving any right now until oil is stable. Long story short I have been looking for a job back on land but hate to take a pay cut and start all over especially with my first baby on the way. I wish you luck man!
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:48 AM   #11
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What field are you looking at going in? You have a Ag background so there should be some opportunities out there for you.
I honestly am not looking at anything in particular. I am open to everything as there are a ton of jobs out there that I don't know exist that may be interesting
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Old 04-03-2018, 09:58 AM   #12
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I honestly am not looking at anything in particular. I am open to everything as there are a ton of jobs out there that I don't know exist that may be interesting
I’d take some time for self reflection and see what you truely want to do. Casting a broad and general net most likely isn’t going to get you to a fulfilling job. If you are trying to not have a pay cut, is there another role in your current industry that you can switch to?

Unfortunately from what I have seen lately if you are trying to completely jump ship into a new career with no experience in that field you’re going to have to take a pay cut, at least at first. I’m sure someone will come along and say that isn’t true but if you don’t know what you want to do it will be very hard to market your experience to a different field
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:11 AM   #13
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Iíd take some time for self reflection and see what you truely want to do. Casting a broad and general net most likely isnít going to get you to a fulfilling job. If you are trying to not have a pay cut, is there another role in your current industry that you can switch to?

Unfortunately from what I have seen lately if you are trying to completely jump ship into a new career with no experience in that field youíre going to have to take a pay cut, at least at first. Iím sure someone will come along and say that isnít true but if you donít know what you want to do it will be very hard to market your experience to a different field
Thank you for the advice. It is frustrating that I don't know where I want to go. I had several options I always wanted to pursue, but every time something happened that took them off the table. That led to just taking jobs that made decent money since nothing I planned ever worked out.
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Thank you for the advice. It is frustrating that I don't know where I want to go. I had several options I always wanted to pursue, but every time something happened that took them off the table. That led to just taking jobs that made decent money since nothing I planned ever worked out.
My company just got bought out and my division is getting dropped. I've always been in outside sales so I've been looking for other opportunities, but even just saying I want to stay in sales is such a broad brush. Even though I'm a top producer if I wanted to move to medical/pharma (where I have no experience or technical degree), I would likely have to take a cut from where I am at right now at first. At this point for me the company is more important than the industry or product to me. My wife is due with our 1st in 2 weeks and I want to go somewhere that I can stay for a long time. I can move to supply chain and vendor management but the money for a while won't be anywhere near what I make as a business development professional.

Have a chat with your wife and see if you would be willing to sacrifice for a couple years if it means you'll be happier. Have you talked to a head hunter or recruiter?
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:29 AM   #15
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What is it you don't like at your current gig?

What peaks your interest?
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:32 AM   #16
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Just listened to a good podcast ($100 MBA) and the topic was “Dig the well before you are thirsty”, translate- network before you need it. It ended with a question and a challenge. “If you lost your job today, who are the 1st 10 people you would reach out to?” Once that list is compiled, reach out to them now, don’t wait til you need them or are actually in that spot. See how they are, offer to take them out to lunch, cultivate those relationships.

I thought it was a good challenge, I have 6 of 10 listed, need to finish out the list and reach out to folks
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:59 AM   #17
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I used what I consider an odd approach when I started searching for a different career. I was building wind farms and traveling like 300 days a year. Got engaged and wanted off the road. I didn't know what I wanted to do but knew what area o wanted to live in. So I started paying attention to company names and logos on trucks and what not. Then in the evenings I'd look up the company and what they did and what positions they were hiring for. I used indeed in a lot of job searching too. I bet I filled out applications and sent resumes to 50 companies. Out of that I had probably 12-15 phone interviews. Most didn't pay what I was looking for. But I got 6 or 7 face to face interviews and 2 job offers, at basically the same time. One with a frac sand plant and one with an electric utility company. I took the electric because I felt I could excell at that job faster and did.

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Old 04-03-2018, 11:08 AM   #18
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Look at where you want to be in 5, 10, 15 years. Then work backwards on what you need to do in the short term to get there.
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:13 PM   #19
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What peaks your interest?
I am just stagnate within the company. I progressed quickly and then just as I was set to move into management it all slowed down. Now I just get passed around form department to department when they need things fixed. I'm the guy they know they can call on to get things done and done right but they wont move up because then I wouldn't be able to move around as much. I enjoy the chemical aspect of it. I just want something challenging where I can constantly learn and be engaged and feel like it is appreciated. I just want to have the ability to purchase some land and have my kids grow up like I did and in order to do that I need to find something that makes more money. I just don't know what my opportunities are. I always tell my wife I am going to just go knock on peoples doors that have nice places and ask what profession they were in to get them. I hate to admit it but I have difficulties finding interests due to depression. might not have admitted that but it is what it is
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:25 PM   #20
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Don't be scared. Don't depend on the financial obstacle... I made a jump less than a year ago and I am a very blessed man. Took almost a $80k annual pay cut!!! Pray about the change and benefit it will bring!!! It will happen when it's supposed to!!!
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:33 PM   #21
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Is it to late to married a rich woman?
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:34 PM   #22
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If you step out of the US and come back in as a refugee, they might give you a house and truck.
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I am just stagnate within the company. I progressed quickly and then just as I was set to move into management it all slowed down. Now I just get passed around form department to department when they need things fixed. I'm the guy they know they can call on to get things done and done right but they wont move up because then I wouldn't be able to move around as much. I enjoy the chemical aspect of it. I just want something challenging where I can constantly learn and be engaged and feel like it is appreciated. I just want to have the ability to purchase some land and have my kids grow up like I did and in order to do that I need to find something that makes more money. I just don't know what my opportunities are. I always tell my wife I am going to just go knock on peoples doors that have nice places and ask what profession they were in to get them. I hate to admit it but I have difficulties finding interests due to depression. might not have admitted that but it is what it is
Talk with management and ask them what their plans are for moving you into a management position (BTW: Management positions arn't all that glamorous). If their answer isn't acceptable than it's time to really consider your options.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:37 PM   #24
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I too am searching.

I'll be 47 in July.

I've been in the Transportation (trucking) Industry since I got out of the Corps in 1993.
Mostly as a driver. I've done a bunch of different things.

The last 5.5 I've been at a trailer repair shop. I was hoping to move up in the company. I did briefly but now I'm back being on the bottom and I'm not liking it.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:58 PM   #25
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Look at jobs that require the same or similar skillsets required for your current job. A skillset is not just a trade. It can be managing people, dealing with confrontation, be sociable. If you've got the gift of gab, you might be a good salesman. If you work well leading teams, you might be a good shop foreman, job captain, project manager.

Also, there is always the option of starting your own thing. Develop a business plan that seriously considers benchmark financial goals, and reach out to banks or credit unions for an SBA loan. You don't always have to have the money out of pocket.

Just a couple ideas...
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I'm going to throw a "hitch" at you and make it even more difficult:

Started out in Law Enforcement right out college....fun and exciting for several years then got tired of weekends, nights, etc., etc. Then mixed in being a Paramedic/Tactical and even that finally got old with the same requirements

Entered Pharmaceutical the Biotech sales...made a LOT of $$ but soon got bored and hated it at the end. In this industry as you get older and don't have the "preferred" body type and make too much base salary...well, the days are numbered. When's the last time you saw a OLD guy at your Doctor's office with the detail bag?

So, started "dabbling" in Real Estate part time. The went full time in land sales and stayed in it until I retired this past November. THAT was a real challenge..did not get paid unless I sold but the national land company I worked for furnished everything and also offered benefits. I made as much selling what I loved to do than I made dealing with the continuing declining medical industry.

Point is...what do YOU believe you can do and enjoy?? Many have started new careers and struggled until they either made it or didn't? Just research, research more and most of all...you have to SELL YOURSELF in any change. Then pay your dues and be the TOP wherever you land!! Good luck and remember....Sam Walton went bankrupt several times but NEVER gave up....oh, Walmart??
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I am just stagnate within the company. I progressed quickly and then just as I was set to move into management it all slowed down. Now I just get passed around form department to department when they need things fixed. I'm the guy they know they can call on to get things done and done right but they wont move up because then I wouldn't be able to move around as much. I enjoy the chemical aspect of it. I just want something challenging where I can constantly learn and be engaged and feel like it is appreciated. I just want to have the ability to purchase some land and have my kids grow up like I did and in order to do that I need to find something that makes more money. I just don't know what my opportunities are. I always tell my wife I am going to just go knock on peoples doors that have nice places and ask what profession they were in to get them. I hate to admit it but I have difficulties finding interests due to depression. might not have admitted that but it is what it is

If you are truly depressed, then seek medical help. If you're just in a rut, then open your eyes and look at the world around you. You likely have it better than 95% of the world.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have ambition, but sometimes you don't realize how good you have it. If you are good at your job, with low stress, healthcare, and adequate income...that counts for a lot. Especially, if you have a young family that needs all your extra energy and attention.
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And reasons such as this thread is why the company I worked for 34 plus years changed their entire benefits package several years ago. Because their studies said future employees will change jobs every 5 to 7 years. The changes that were made weren't better for long term employees either.
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If you are truly depressed, then seek medical help. If you're just in a rut, then open your eyes and look at the world around you. You likely have it better than 95% of the world.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have ambition, but sometimes you don't realize how good you have it. If you are good at your job, with low stress, healthcare, and adequate income...that counts for a lot. Especially, if you have a young family that needs all your extra energy and attention.
You may be on to something.
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Be honest with yourself and ask why someone should hire you and know that happiness usually isn't found at work. I'm not saying all workers are unhappy, but every job is still a job.
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Kinda agree with tx ag as much as I hate to admit it.
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that's the issue now is that most people I know are in the same job field. I am 35 with a family so it is difficult to take the initial financial hit most jobs would take to start over. I never intended to be in the field I am in so while it provides for my family, I always wonder what else is out there that would allow me to provide better for my family and our future



I have been in the oilfield the last 7 years after I got out of college. I have been in our chemical department the last 3.5 years. I have a bachelors degree (agriculture extension and industry) Never used the multi quote feature, so I hope I didn't butcher it too bad


Dang man...come see me. Iím in the chemical business (Midlothian) and always hear of new opportunities. You can always pursue a different role in a similar industry. This would allow you to leverage your experience while still pursuing something new. Just a thought!
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I am just stagnate within the company. I progressed quickly and then just as I was set to move into management it all slowed down. Now I just get passed around form department to department when they need things fixed. I'm the guy they know they can call on to get things done and done right but they wont move up because then I wouldn't be able to move around as much. I enjoy the chemical aspect of it. I just want something challenging where I can constantly learn and be engaged and feel like it is appreciated. I just want to have the ability to purchase some land and have my kids grow up like I did and in order to do that I need to find something that makes more money. I just don't know what my opportunities are. I always tell my wife I am going to just go knock on peoples doors that have nice places and ask what profession they were in to get them. I hate to admit it but I have difficulties finding interests due to depression. might not have admitted that but it is what it is

I am just stagnate within the company. I progressed quickly and then just as I was set to move into management it all slowed down. Now I just get passed around form department to department when they need things fixed. I'm the guy they know they can call on to get things done and done right but they wont move up because then I wouldn't be able to move around as much.


^^^^^^ This right here is the reason I was fixing to start looking elsewhere at the age of 32. I had been with my company for 12 years and with a 3% annual raise I wasnít going to get anywhere close to where I wanted to be financially by the time I hit 40. I heard a sales position had opened up and I talked with the sales manager about the position and he gave me a chance. That was the best decision I have ever made in my life. In six months I doubled my income from the previous year and traded 55 to 60 hr work weeks to under 40 hr work weeks. I went from getting up at 4:45 to 6:45, wearing work boots and a uniform to dress shoes and suits.



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Old 04-04-2018, 08:54 AM   #34
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If you are truly depressed, then seek medical help. If you're just in a rut, then open your eyes and look at the world around you. You likely have it better than 95% of the world.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have ambition, but sometimes you don't realize how good you have it. If you are good at your job, with low stress, healthcare, and adequate income...that counts for a lot. Especially, if you have a young family that needs all your extra energy and attention.
I have been addressing the depression for many years and I agree I have it better than a good portion of the world and I am appreciative. I always say it is hard to leave due to having good insurance and 401k etc. O should say that the company I was working for got bought out by another that typically flips their assets within 5-7 years so most of this is just being proactive. I appreciate your input
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Old 04-04-2018, 08:56 AM   #35
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Dang man...come see me. Iím in the chemical business (Midlothian) and always hear of new opportunities. You can always pursue a different role in a similar industry. This would allow you to leverage your experience while still pursuing something new. Just a thought!
It would be great to talk to someone in the industry that could shed some light on other opportunities as well as meeting a fellow tbh'r. Thank you
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It would be great to talk to someone in the industry that could shed some light on other opportunities as well as meeting a fellow tbh'r. Thank you
PM me and weíll find time to connect.
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