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Old 03-24-2018, 03:02 PM   #1
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How many acres are required to discharge firearms? My neighbor has 8 acres but shoots a variety of weapons for several hours. So far heís been shooting for 3 hours straight today. This is in Hardin county outside the city limits.Thanks.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:07 PM   #2
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You should call your county commissioner and ask
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:10 PM   #3
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Is the price or privilege of living in the country, outside city limits. Is he shooting into something that stops the bullets?
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:14 PM   #4
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Is the price or privilege of living in the country, outside city limits. Is he shooting into something that stops the bullets?
No. Through a paper target
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I live on 1 acre and have 2 neighbors to my west who also have 1 acre tracks. The farthest neighbor shoots into a dirt pile on the back of his property all the time. I can see him when he does it and he's seems to be responsible so I haven't made an issue out of it.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:15 PM   #6
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No. Through a paper target
If the bullets are leaving his property, I believe that is against the law.
I would be calling the sheriff.
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Are you upset about the noise or some other reason?
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:20 PM   #8
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If the bullets are leaving his property, I believe that is against the law.
I would be calling the sheriff.


Trespass by projectile or something along those lines. But OP hasnít said the bullets are coming into his property.
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Trespass by projectile or something along those lines. But OP hasnít said the bullets are coming into his property.
No he hasn't. But no back stop on 8 acres a ricochet is very possible. And I would be calling the sheriff.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:26 PM   #10
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No he hasn't. But no back stop on 8 acres a ricochet is very possible. And I would be calling the sheriff.


You would call the sheriff because thereís a potential for ricochet? 8 acres is a decent chunk of property. What if heís shooting into a dense area of trees? Or shooting downward? Considering the OP specifically mentioned the length of time heís been shooting Iíím ASSuming heís annoyed by the noise and now looking for ways to shut him down. Iíd say if heís being safe (hopefully) and he wants to shoot on his own property mid day on a Saturday, leave him be.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:28 PM   #11
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I've read in the hunting rules book to hunt you have to be on at least ten acres, unless there's a ruling about firearms discharge in the county. That tells me it would depend on a county ordinance.
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You would call the sheriff because thereís a potential for ricochet? 8 acres is a decent chunk of property. What if heís shooting into a dense area of trees? Or shooting downward? Considering the OP specifically mentioned the length of time heís been shooting Iíím ASSuming heís annoyed by the noise and now looking for ways to shut him down. Iíd say if heís being safe (hopefully) and he wants to shoot on his own property mid day on a Saturday, leave him be.
Yes I would. OP was asked "is he shooting into something to stop the bullets?" OP answered "NO". So according to the facts given the potential for a ricochet is possible and a bullet can cover much more ground than 8 acres, even a ricochet.
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The 10 acre rule is for hunting, but I believe you can shoot on private property of any size outside the city limits, bullets must remain inside boundaries tho
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I've read in the hunting rules book to hunt you have to be on at least ten acres, unless there's a ruling about firearms discharge in the county. That tells me it would depend on a county ordinance.
What hunting rules book did you read that in?
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:37 PM   #15
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The 10 acre rule is for hunting, but I believe you can shoot on private property of any size outside the city limits, bullets must remain inside boundaries tho
That's correct. It is up to the county to restrict it any more than that, and I don't think Hardin County has any specific verbiage for a minimum acreage.

I'll quote the 10 acre rule below, notice it only gives the counties the ABILITY to further restrict shooting.

Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:39 PM   #16
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Yes I would. OP was asked "is he shooting into something to stop the bullets?" OP answered "NO". So according to the facts given the potential for a ricochet is possible and a bullet can cover much more ground than 8 acres, even a ricochet.
According to the OP, this is a regular occurrence as his neighbor shoots a "variety of weapons for several hours". I feel like if he was having an issue with ricochets he would have led off with that versus the amount of time the neighbor has been shooting today.
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Old 03-24-2018, 04:26 PM   #17
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I called the sheriff, didn’t report them or give my address, and asked him about an acreage requirement. There are none in Hardin county. Still shooting, over 4 hours straight, 3 guys.The parcels here are all roughly the same size and rectangular shaped like the quote box. Last year I was hauling limbs to the back of my property and the shooting started. I could hear bullets whistling through the trees fairly close. He has no back stop. I talked to him politely that day. We’ve been there 10 years and nobody shoots over 5-6 rounds ever. Frustrating because of possible ricochete, the noise is bad, and I should have bought that **** lot before he moved in. Need to do yard work but not with all that going on. Might go get a set of overalls and bubba teeth and join them...
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Old 03-24-2018, 05:18 PM   #18
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No. Through a paper target
Look in the parks and wildlife code. If the projectile crosses any property line, its a class c misdemeanor unless he has an agreement with the other landowner.

Also relevant if projectile crosses a public road.

If he gets some sort of backstop that prevents projectile from crossing property line, you're likely just going to have to deal with it.
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Old 03-24-2018, 05:51 PM   #19
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Iíll be the bad guy and say it... never mind, itís not important


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Old 03-24-2018, 09:51 PM   #20
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If the bullets are leaving his property, I believe that is against the law.
I would be calling the sheriff.
Yeah, unlawful for bullets to cross property lines.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:52 PM   #21
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My sister and brother-in-law in Georgetown, or actually outside of Georgetown, have the same kind of neighbor.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:29 PM   #22
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Break out the Cannon and they're gonna leave feeling inadequate. Lol.
Just kidding!
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:34 PM   #23
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My sister and brother-in-law in Georgetown, or actually outside of Georgetown, have the same kind of neighbor.


One that spent money to be able to own and enjoy themselves on their own land?
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:35 PM   #24
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How big of a boy is he?
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:39 PM   #25
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How big of a boy is he?
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Old 03-25-2018, 04:19 AM   #26
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One that spent money to be able to own and enjoy themselves on their own land?
No, the kind that has no common courtesy.
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:32 AM   #27
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One that spent money to be able to own and enjoy themselves on their own land?


There's also such a thing as respecting other people......
I have a feeling you might not get that


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Old 03-25-2018, 05:50 AM   #28
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I have people coming from Houston doing the same thing. I'm at the end of being nice. Two or three hundred rounds would be okay but all day 2000 rounds not so much
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There's also such a thing as respecting other people......
I have a feeling you might not get that


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So what is your definition of respecting other people when it comes to shooting weapons on your own land in a safe manner?

Not on the weekend? During the week? Not over 200 rounds? I did state in a safe manner.
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Old 03-25-2018, 06:12 AM   #30
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My parents have lived outside the city limits on a two acre tract with a pond and dirt mound for almost 30 years now and I grew up shooting on that place everything from B.B. guns to checking our deer rifles. A couple years ago some clown moves in next door and starts complaining anytime we shoot. Sorry but we are not gonna stop completely just because you donít like it. Now granted it doesnít go on for hours at a time but his unwillingness to understand that it is our right is flat out irritating. And no it isnít illegal unless a county has an ordinance specifically stating it is. My situation is a bit different than the OP but it struck a nerve.

OP your only option is to check for unreasonable noise ordinances or something like that due to it lasting a few hours at a time and yes that is a bit overkill.


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So what is your definition of respecting other people when it comes to shooting weapons on your own land in a safe manner?



Not on the weekend? During the week? Not over 200 rounds? I did state in a safe manner.


Very good, logical way to approach it.

When itís my land, Iíll take my neighbors opinion into consideration. But at the end of the day, itís my land, and Iíll do what I want... well, whatever the governing authorities say I can do. Lol.


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Old 03-25-2018, 08:34 AM   #32
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If the guy did the same amount of shooting with suppressors, you would be none the wiser...Right? Is it the noise or the act of shooting in general?
Many folks buy land out in the country to do exactly that. Because they can't shoot on their land back in Baytown or DFW or whatever city they are from.
Sure respect needs to be given on both sides with the neighbor issue. You may not like what your neighbor does, but you have to put up with it.
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