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Old 07-16-2017, 03:01 PM   #1
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Default Texans rookie.... not a good start

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Old 07-16-2017, 03:09 PM   #2
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A legal handgun and Foreman did not use or possess marijuana.
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At least according to his lawyer.
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At least according to his lawyer.
He didn't do anything wrong and was arrested by them......and....
.D'Onta appreciates the professionalism of the officers involved in his arrest and booking into the Travis County jail
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A legal handgun and Foreman did not use or possess marijuana.
Even if true... why are you hanging out on a college campus with people that are in possession of illegal drugs.

You are no longer a student. Time to separate from the blood sucking posse.
Some just never do.
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He didn't do anything wrong and was arrested by them......and....
.D'Onta appreciates the professionalism of the officers involved in his arrest and booking into the Travis County jail
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No possession and a legal weapon........so why was he arrested?
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No possession and a legal weapon........so why was he arrested?
Ahh....racist Travis County leo's....I'm sure
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No possession and a legal weapon........so why was he arrested?
UCW and Possession of Wacky Weed
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TVC...If the passenger was actually in possession of the illegal substance, can they still site the owner of the vehicle??

This part of the article seems odd unless I'm not understanding the laws.
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Meanwhile....

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Old 07-16-2017, 04:38 PM   #17
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TVC...If the passenger was actually in possession of the illegal substance, can they still site the owner of the vehicle??

This part of the article seems odd unless I'm not understanding the laws.
In my opinion, yes.

Possession by definition in the PC is care, custody, control or management. If it is in his car, he is in control or custody of it.

If he has possession of any illegal item or substance (or comitting any other crime than a traffic citation) the handgun becomes an illegally possesed weapon so we get the UCW charge also.

The article really didn’t say that it was his vehicle but did say that the marijuana was found in each. If some was found in his vehicle, he is likely guilty under TX law of both charges. That doesn’t mean the DA will take charges but by the way the article describes it, it was a lawful arrest. If he was only walking by or the vehicle was not his, etc., the charges will probably be dismissed. The arrest would still be lawful in my opinion under probable cause but no proof beyond a reasonable doubt would not likely be proven.

As far as a probable cause arrest, the standard for court would be, what would a reasonable person believe if faced with the same facts and knowledge known by the officers at that moment. In this case according to the news, the police got a call of the smell of marijuana coming from the vehicles. That leads me to believe that it was being smoked and someone passed by and reported it. The police show up, find a few guys standing around and find the marijuana in each vehicle. They aren’t charged with smoking it but only possessing it. If it is being smoked and is in your car, that you are standing next to, what would a reasonable person believe?
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Meanwhile....

Zeke Elliott beats women.
Wasn't arrested, charges never filed, witnesses back up Ellicott's story

But don't t let facts get in the way. .....
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:42 PM   #19
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Meanwhile

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Old 07-16-2017, 04:43 PM   #20
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In my opinion, yes.

Possession by definition in the PC is care, custody, control or management. If it is in his car, he is in control or custody of it.

If he has possession of any illegal item or substance (or comitting any other crime than a traffic citation) the handgun becomes an illegally possesed weapon so we get the UCW charge also.

The article really didn’t say that it was his vehicle but did say that the marijuana was found in each. If some was found in his vehicle, he is likely guilty under TX law of both charges. That doesn’t mean the DA will take charges but by the way the article describes it, it was a lawful arrest. If he was only walking by or the vehicle was not his, etc., the charges will probably be dismissed. The arrest would still be lawful in my opinion under probable cause but no proof beyond a reasonable doubt would not likely be proven.

As far as a probable cause arrest, the standard for court would be, what would a reasonable person believe if faced with the same facts and knowledge known by the officers at that moment. In this case according to the news, the police got a call of the smell of marijuana coming from the vehicles. That leads me to believe that it was being smoked and someone passed by and reported it. The police show up, find a few guys standing around and find the marijuana in each vehicle. They aren’t charged with smoking it but only possessing it. If it is being smoked and is in your car, that you are standing next to, what would a reasonable person believe?
I reasonably couldn't see him dishonoring the 5 core values like that or he'd have never lasted on the UT squad.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:49 PM   #21
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Wasn't arrested, charges never filed, witnesses back up Ellicott's story

But don't t let facts get in the way. .....
Roger Goodell is tripping over those facts.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:56 PM   #22
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You and Rog have a lot in common
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:58 PM   #23
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:18 PM   #24
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Wonder what Johnny Football is up to?
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:20 PM   #25
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Something other than football.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:22 PM   #26
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Weed from someone who went to UT- NO WAY

I have hopes for him with the Texans, hopefully he can leave that posse behind
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:28 PM   #27
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But don't t let facts get in the way. .....
LOL, yep...previous comment that inspired yours...could be a Cowboy Hater! But the NFL is going to suspend him I would bet...their "Holier than thou" stand on "basically anything that makes the news."

One thing is certain...put a million + $$ in their bank, combine it with youth, then throw in "certain" one's poor upbringing and ALL the fame...well, there are those who are not mature enough to handle it all at once. Shame that they get to do what so many just end up dreaming about and BLOW IT!
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:32 PM   #28
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Hopefully he can learn from this and make the right choices moving forward.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:36 PM   #29
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LOL, yep...previous comment that inspired yours...could be a Cowboy Hater! But the NFL is going to suspend him I would bet...their "Holier than thou" stand on "basically anything that makes the news."

One thing is certain...put a million + $$ in their bank, combine it with youth, then throw in "certain" one's poor upbringing and ALL the fame...well, there are those who are not mature enough to handle it all at once. Shame that they get to do what so many just end up dreaming about and BLOW IT!
He's not a Cowboy hater, he's still upset the they let Michael Sam go
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:38 PM   #30
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Half the people I know carry legal firearms,and smoke weed.

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Old 07-16-2017, 05:42 PM   #31
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How can this happen in a sanctuary city? . . He didn't inhale . .
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:07 PM   #32
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That really sucks for this young man. As far as the article makes known, neither he, nor his passenger were causing trouble, getting in any fights, shooting anything, or doing anything else to a single person, yet he was arrested because there was marijuana in a vehicle and because of that, his legally owned firearm now becomes illegal. He's got the money to get a good attorney that will probably be able to get the charges dismissed. Now if this is a middle or lower class man, he's got criminal charges on his record, going to jail and would be forever cast as a thug unable to get a decent job because of drug charges all over a some dried up plant and an otherwise legally owned firearm. Does anyone else see anything wrong with what he did, other than "broke laws that are currently on the books?" It's a crying shame. If instead of the joint it was bourbon and cigars in the parking lot of a dorm, there would be no arrest, no story, no trouble. Rant over. Hopefully all ends well for this young man.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:50 PM   #34
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Hell boyz, MJ is good and constitution carry should be law
None of them did anything wrong
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Just poking a dead horse---
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I have been guilty of that a few times!! Lol. Take care buddy
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No surprise here.
In Austin all guns are illegal. I'm surprised about the pot charges though.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:42 AM   #38
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Even if true... why are you hanging out on a college campus with people that are in possession of illegal drugs.

You are no longer a student. Time to separate from the blood sucking posse.
Some just never do.
Except he literally has a twin brother that is enrolled at UT. So, that's a pretty good reason to go back.
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In Austin all guns are illegal. I'm surprised about the pot charges though.


Well now all three UT running backs to have rushed over 1800 yds have been arrested in Austin.

Earl Campbell is probably glad he fell short of that total by around 50 yds lol
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Who was the 3rd one? Benson?
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So long as he hits the holes at 100 mph, and there is a linebacker there to hit him back, I don't care what he does in his free time.
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Who was the 3rd one? Benson?


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But don't t let facts get in the way. .....
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=653408

I'll just leave this here.
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The firearm isn't legal with weed. Maybe with chl but not under castle doctrine
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Man, I won't lie, I didn't know Benson ran for 1800 yds. Senior season?
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The firearm isn't legal with weed. Maybe with chl but not under castle doctrine
well that really puts a damper on my future hunting trips
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The firearm isn't legal with weed. Maybe with chl but not under castle doctrine
What if you're hunting east texas , over a crop of weed ?
asking for a friend....
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What if you're hunting east texas , over a crop of weed ?
asking for a friend....
Shoot
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