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    #16
    Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
    Y'all act like the parties have never been turned inside out....

    We don't need another 3rd party we've already got at least a dozen...

    This isn't any different than any group, club or organization every now and then a new bunch of folks come along and take over running the show...

    Now it's the republicans turn again...

    I heard some of the talking heads say today that the next POTUS isn't even running yet, and I can easily see that happening this year.. a dark horse will come out of the woodwork or out from under a log and run not as a Republican, Democrat, Tea Party, Libertarian, Socialist, Unitarian or any other ideology...... But as an AMERICAN and sweep the whole thing...


    Who, might that be???
    Well, for the record, I'm officially taking my name out of consideration. No way I would ever want that gig.

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      #17
      Does anyone really want a Hillary or Sanders in office? Once again most will be voting for the lesser of the evils on the card. The uninformed will be voting for the ones that will give them the most free stuff and money!

      Way to many people on gov't support to vote anything but for the Dumbocrats.

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        #18
        I will vote for whoever the Republican candidate is but we the voters need to be vigilant and continue to vote out those that don't represent what the Republican platform is.

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          #19
          Originally posted by iamntxhunter View Post
          I will vote for whoever the Republican candidate is but we the voters need to be vigilant and continue to vote out those that don't represent what the Republican platform is.
          I'm with you on voting on the republican candidate but unsure if I'll stay on the GOP rolls if Cruz or Trump don't get the party nomination.

          I do not believe Rubio or Kasich can get close to passing Cruz and Trump in the primaries. Therefore in a contested vote I do not believe either should win the nomination. If they do it will be because the people in charge of the party don't care what the members want.

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            #20
            Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
            The Tea Party might be alive and well soon. I might just start sipping tea.
            giggle...

            there are part of the reason the GOP can't compete at a national level...

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              #21
              My answer to the original question is No. If the Republican party cant deal with the will of the people and jack with the majority, I will be independent and ripe for a third party lol. The party as it stands needs to be broken down and rebuilt. If Cruz or Trump wins, no prob, I vote republican as they will be the majority.

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                #22
                I will not vote if they do not nominate the man with the most votes/delagates. Then they are cheating the people of their choice.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by sasquatch View Post
                  If the Republican party cant deal with the will of the people and jack with the majority, I will be independent and ripe for a third party.
                  If the leader gets a simple majority, then absolutely yes, we know the will of the people. Otherwise, not necessarily so.

                  Simplified Example:
                  100 people vote.
                  40 vote for Candidate A
                  35 vote for Candidate B
                  25 vote for Candidate C

                  Is Candidate A the will of the people even though the majority of the people voted against him?

                  Now suppose they then have a run-off election between only the top two candidates.
                  The same 40 people again vote for Candidate A
                  The other 60 vote for Candidate B

                  Wouldn't you then say that Candidate B more closely matches the will of the people? Just something to think about.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Snakelover View Post
                    If the leader gets a simple majority, then absolutely yes, we know the will of the people. Otherwise, not necessarily so.

                    Simplified Example:
                    100 people vote.
                    40 vote for Candidate A
                    35 vote for Candidate B
                    25 vote for Candidate C

                    Is Candidate A the will of the people even though the majority of the people voted against him?

                    Now suppose they then have a run-off election between only the top two candidates.
                    The same 40 people again vote for Candidate A
                    The other 60 vote for Candidate B

                    Wouldn't you then say that Candidate B more closely matches the will of the people? Just something to think about.
                    The problem with your analogy is that you assume that none of candidate C's voters will vote for candidate A. What happens if 12 of candidate C voters vote for candidate A, would that not be the will of the people...?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                      The problem with your analogy is that you assume that none of candidate C's voters will vote for candidate A. What happens if 12 of candidate C voters vote for candidate A, would that not be the will of the people...?
                      Yes, either way is valid.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                        The problem with your analogy is that you assume that none of candidate C's voters will vote for candidate A. What happens if 12 of candidate C voters vote for candidate A, would that not be the will of the people...?
                        Yes, of course.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                          The problem with your analogy is that you assume that none of candidate C's voters will vote for candidate A. What happens if 12 of candidate C voters vote for candidate A, would that not be the will of the people...?
                          Rock Paper Scissors would come into play

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                            #28
                            It would be nice, though, if Democrats didn't get to vote for Trump in the GOP open primaries and then turn around and vote for Hillary in November. It destroys the integrity of the process when the other party gets to pee in our Cheerios.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                              Y'all act like the parties have never been turned inside out....

                              We don't need another 3rd party we've already got at least a dozen...

                              This isn't any different than any group, club or organization every now and then a new bunch of folks come along and take over running the show...

                              Now it's the republicans turn again...

                              I heard some of the talking heads say today that the next POTUS isn't even running yet, and I can easily see that happening this year.. a dark horse will come out of the woodwork or out from under a log and run not as a Republican, Democrat, Tea Party, Libertarian, Socialist, Unitarian or any other ideology...... But as an AMERICAN and sweep the whole thing...


                              Who, might that be???
                              Michelle Obama?????

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Snakelover View Post
                                It would be nice, though, if Democrats didn't get to vote for Trump in the GOP open primaries and then turn around and vote for Hillary in November. It destroys the integrity of the process when the other party gets to pee in our Cheerios.
                                There have been a couple of big stories lately showing the Dems going over to Trump are staying with Trump - they are not moving over to vote for (or against) Trump to influence who HRC gets to run against. In other words, they are switching parties altogether.

                                They also said the Sanders-Clinton race, since the Michigan upset, has sufficiently tightened that their supporters aren't wasting their votes in the Republican primary.

                                If all true, this might be a good thing. The people they interviewed could not like Obama and did not want 4 more years of him via HRC.

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