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Old 01-20-2020, 06:31 PM   #1
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Just getting back to hunting and have about 2 acres I want to plant a spring plot
in. Wanted to see what has worked well for you guys. Iíve done soil test and plan on putting lime out in the next couple of weeks.
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Old 01-20-2020, 06:41 PM   #2
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Iron & clay peas.
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Old 01-20-2020, 06:57 PM   #3
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Will two acres be enough?
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Old 01-20-2020, 07:12 PM   #4
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Wheat oats and rye. Break it good and top seed with good rain in the forcast mid sept Drag or roll the planted area if rain isn't imminent.

Fertilize as heavy as you can afford. 300 lb per acre or so.
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Old 01-20-2020, 07:39 PM   #5
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Wheat oats and rye. Break it good and top seed with good rain in the forcast mid sept Drag or roll the planted area if rain isn't imminent.

Fertilize as heavy as you can afford. 300 lb per acre or so.

Planning this for the fall, thanks.
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Old 01-20-2020, 07:49 PM   #6
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Will two acres be enough?
Depends on your deer density. Some places I hunt peas will last nearly all summer with plots smaller than yours. Some places theyíre gone in six weeks. Depending on your soil tests, I like buckwheat for a first time crop. It grows quickly, itís not as finicky about ph, makes a good weed suppressor, adds organic matter, and the deer will eat it, at least ďmineĒ do. If you get the rainfall youíll get a double crop out of it as it goes to seed quickly and they will germinate on their own. It is not as attractive as IC peas though, but may be better in the long run before your soil amendments kick in.
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:03 PM   #7
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Depends on your deer density. Some places I hunt peas will last nearly all summer with plots smaller than yours. Some places theyíre gone in six weeks. Depending on your soil tests, I like buckwheat for a first time crop. It grows quickly, itís not as finicky about ph, makes a good weed suppressor, adds organic matter, and the deer will eat it, at least ďmineĒ do. If you get the rainfall youíll get a double crop out of it as it goes to seed quickly and they will germinate on their own. It is not as attractive as IC peas though, but may be better in the long run before your soil amendments kick in.

Thanks, might not be a bad idea. Like the idea of the peas but can plan the next spring. Not a very large density, more so in the fall when bucks are cruising.
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:43 PM   #8
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Unless you have really high deer densities, it should be just fine. We did a mix of soybeans, cowpeas, and buckwheat last year. It did pretty good.....






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Old 01-20-2020, 09:08 PM   #9
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Unless you have really high deer densities, it should be just fine. We did a mix of soybeans, cowpeas, and buckwheat last year. It did pretty good.....






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That looks great! Did you mix the seed yourself or did you buy a blend?
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:35 PM   #10
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That looks great! Did you mix the seed yourself or did you buy a blend?


Naught separate and mixed in a bucket.
The growth definitely outpaced deer browse.


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I havenít found anything better than cowpeas and black oil sunflowers. This plot was about 1.5 acres and by August you could putt golf balls on it ( 4-6 deer using it)
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Old 01-21-2020, 02:21 PM   #12
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Old 02-05-2020, 04:51 AM   #13
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I ordered my seeds for a new 2 acre plot of my own this year. Iím sure my father will do something similar to the mix I posted above, but Iím going high diversity and aiming for some major soil improvement at the same time. I have next to no deer on the place my plots will be on, so I donít expect much as far as activity for a few years.

The brassicas, flax, and safflower are for the soil. Compaction breaking, nutrient cycling, and organic matter accumulation are the goals for those species.

The sunn hemp, peas, soybeans, buckwheat, and okra are for the deer to consume.




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Old 02-11-2020, 05:41 AM   #14
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Tech Lab Lab, I planted every spring and it held up and the deer loved it. That was in the Woodville area. Fall I planted Buck Forage oats with the same results.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:20 PM   #15
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I've use WT extreme and lab lab with VERY good luck. I tend stay away from ryegrass mixes. Also some throw&grow over seedling works also.

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Old 02-21-2020, 05:58 PM   #16
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I have good luck with Alyce clover and Brown top millet for a warm season plot in Rusk county. Alyce is high protein and relatively drought tolerant, millet acts as a filler seed and cover crop for the Alyce.
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I have good luck with Alyce clover and Brown top millet for a warm season plot in Rusk county. Alyce is high protein and relatively drought tolerant, millet acts as a filler seed and cover crop for the Alyce.


Iím planting 50/50 Alyce clover and Aeschynomene this year because Elgato speaks so highly of the mix. Hopefully it doesnít turn too dry this summer. I know both are a little slow to get established, but can be perennial (or self seeding annual) once established.


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Old 02-24-2020, 08:54 PM   #18
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Iím planting 50/50 Alyce clover and Aeschynomene this year because Elgato speaks so highly of the mix. Hopefully it doesnít turn too dry this summer. I know both are a little slow to get established, but can be perennial (or self seeding annual) once established.


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Yes, they are both slow to establish while growing their root systems. I used Aeschynomene extensively in FL. but in the sandy soil I have here, itís to dry for it. The deer do go crazy over it, late summer when the sugars are in the plant tips.

Good luck with it. Pls let me know how it does.
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Old 02-25-2020, 08:27 AM   #19
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I havenít found anything better than cowpeas and black oil sunflowers. This plot was about 1.5 acres and by August you could putt golf balls on it ( 4-6 deer using it)
Thinking I may go this route this year to keep things simple. For the black oil sunflower seeds, are you buying a "seed" variety for planting from someone like East Texas Seed Company? Or are you just using the standard bird seed from Wal Mart or Tractor Supply? TSC had a sale on the 50 lb bags a few weeks ago but I wasn't sure what kind of germination to expect from those.
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Thinking I may go this route this year to keep things simple. For the black oil sunflower seeds, are you buying a "seed" variety for planting from someone like East Texas Seed Company? Or are you just using the standard bird seed from Wal Mart or Tractor Supply? TSC had a sale on the 50 lb bags a few weeks ago but I wasn't sure what kind of germination to expect from those.
50 pound bird seed variety.... and it will grow darn near commercial grade flowers. Lol
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Yes, they are both slow to establish while growing their root systems. I used Aeschynomene extensively in FL. but in the sandy soil I have here, itís to dry for it. The deer do go crazy over it, late summer when the sugars are in the plant tips.



Good luck with it. Pls let me know how it does.


Will do, they will be planted on heavy blackland clay-loam (technically ďFrioton Silty Clay LoamĒ) so I know they might struggle a bit in the heavier soils. That hurts me in late winter and spring as it can water-log the roots, but should help with moisture retention in the summer.

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50 pound bird seed variety.... and it will grow darn near commercial grade flowers. Lol
Good to know!
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Old 02-26-2020, 12:36 PM   #23
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General rule of thumb, don't figure out what you want to plant before getting the soil test.

Wait till you have your soil test to see what your soil can accommodate. If the pH is not balanced some plants will not be palatable for deer even if they grow.

If you can post your soil tests once you get them, we can make better planting suggestions.
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Old 02-26-2020, 03:38 PM   #24
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My deer in navarro co really liked the sun hemp also
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:56 AM   #25
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50 pound bird seed variety.... and it will grow darn near commercial grade flowers. Lol


For real. Iíve had the best luck with that stuff too. Add in about 6-10#ís of Sunn hemp per acre this year.


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Old 03-25-2020, 08:58 PM   #26
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50 pound bird seed variety.... and it will grow darn near commercial grade flowers. Lol
Planted some today. Looking forward to see how well it does. Might still plant Soybeans in a month....we will see.

Turkeys and doves should definetly love this stuff.
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I ordered another 2 acres of seed.... this batch is a dove plot.




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Iíd be interested to see how these compete with one another. Last year I added 2pounds per acre of pearl millet for cover/screening in deer plots (planted dove fields too) and it dominated everything. I WILL add again at a much lower rate this year. Never used sun hemp, but know it overwhelms too. Very interested to see how the smaller and slower plants do. Keep us posted!
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:27 AM   #29
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I had simular luck with what MILAM used...what worked well for me too was just plain old Black Eye Peas bought at HEB/WM /grocery..Haven't priced recently but back when it was way cheaper
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:49 PM   #30
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Ic cow peas and something for them to climb. A little sorghum or millet
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Man, we usually don’t plant until late April, early May to make soil temps are up enough. With the weather we are having now, I think we can re-think that strategy.
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Iíd be interested to see how these compete with one another. Last year I added 2pounds per acre of pearl millet for cover/screening in deer plots (planted dove fields too) and it dominated everything. I WILL add again at a much lower rate this year. Never used sun hemp, but know it overwhelms too. Very interested to see how the smaller and slower plants do. Keep us posted!

I plan to post all the planting and progress pics in my land thread. ďPrairie Valley FarmĒ. This CoVid thing might get in the way a bit... but hopefully I can get everything in the ground on time.

Total of 4.5 acres in 3 plots... 2 acres of high diversity dove plot, 2 acres of high diversity deer plot, and 0.5 acres of aeschynomene/Alyce clover deer plot.

The deer densities are abysmally low, but thereís nothing wrong with a little overkill.


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Well, had some time the last couple of weeks practicing my social distancing. Got everything planted right before the rain yesterday. Hopefully all goes well, just need to hurry up and wait.


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I’m lost, tried a couple of way to post pictures. Any advise?
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Planted some bird seed. Gonna give it a try, let it get up then come back at the end of April and plant Soybeans in the standing mix. Just for the record, I planted the bird seed in standing clover.
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