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Old 10-24-2012, 12:43 PM   #151
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:47 PM   #152
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Great deer!! Wow he has it all and then some!! Congrats

Was he killed in Texas?

Looks like the hill country but thats no hill-country deer.

High-fence? Low fence?

Whats the story?
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:58 PM   #153
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Great buck!! So are you saying this is a free range deer? You haven't said either way, or are you just saying the ripped ear is not from a tag because you know for a fact you cut it out of the right ear?
LOL, what a joke. Get a life. It's a high-fenced ranch and the rip in his ear is NOT because of a tag (for the third or fourth time).
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:05 PM   #154
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That's is a beast!! Congrats man!!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:05 PM   #155
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Great deer....Congrats!


Wonder what the notch in his ear is from?
Smarts always stirring up trouble. Oughta ban that guy again.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:19 PM   #156
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Now that will make you smile every time you think about it! Congrats
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:24 PM   #157
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I'll come shoot a buck like that any day. Great work.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:40 PM   #158
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Congrats on a great deer Daniel. It's a shame others can't just leave it at that. Saw a pic of your mt. lion, that thing was a beast.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:42 PM   #159
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Darn best buck I've seen in a very long time
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:48 PM   #160
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Congrats on a great deer Daniel. It's a shame others can't just leave it at that. Saw a pic of your mt. lion, that thing was a beast.
Had no idea you were on here man! How have you been? Oh it ain't no thing. Thanks for the kind words.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:48 PM   #161
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Don't let others get you down man that thing is a toad!
Sorry for some others comments
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:58 PM   #162
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Heck of a deer Congrats!
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:29 PM   #163
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Don't worry about all the negatives. You shot an awesome deer with your bow. Congrats again.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:07 PM   #164
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What a Monster........Congrats!!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:09 PM   #165
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Wow! Congrats
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:56 PM   #166
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Great deer congrats!!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:28 PM   #167
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Cograts!!!!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:36 PM   #168
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Congrats! Wow, great buck.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:57 PM   #169
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That is AWESOME!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:09 PM   #170
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Great Deer!!! Congratulations .......
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:38 PM   #171
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Chupacabre....
Lmfao

Are u in any contest ? If so what division ?

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:23 AM   #172
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Congrats on a great buck, D. In my humble opinion, a 200" deer deserves kudos and congrats. However, without you sharing the story, we really don't know what to congratulate you for. Like it or not, when you post a buck like that on a public forum, stating you looked for a couple days, then found him, many (including me) will assume the extreme...small pasture and a bottle raised buck.

I would suggest to all of us...give some details, rather than vagueness.

Public land east Tx? Once in several lifetimes!!!!

Low fence ANYWHERE - awesome!

High Fence, native? Awesome mngt and land stewardship...testament to your hard work!

High fence with supplimental genetics? Love it! Most all of us would LOVE to have the ranch and the means to do so.

Pen raised buck that's not near the quality to justify keeping alive as a breeder? Not my thing, but I sure as **** don't judge you one way or another. Just be up front and proud of whatever you have to be proud of...share it with us and let us be proud with you.

Give the naysayers a reason to believe something OTHER than your stealthy and accomplished hunting skills enabled you to put an arrow through a pet deer.

I knew this thread was disaster in the making before I finished your original post.

Let me know if you want me to do a Euro on him. You can shoulder mount the replicas.

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Old 10-25-2012, 04:11 AM   #173
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:07 AM   #174
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Wow, truly amazing.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:21 AM   #175
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What a terrible thread. The audacity is AWESOME. Normally not one to get upset about anything, but between the open thread comments from a few, and the PM's from a half dozen..This will be the last time I post a picture of ANY deer on our place on this board.

But I will attempt to set the record straight for those of you that feel as if you are entitled to knowing my families business simply because I posted a picture of a really neat deer.

To classify myself as Tex_Cattleman wishes, we are high-fenced (which I already said) and we introduced genetics. But, that deer is a wild deer. As wild as any of y'alls. He's "unnatural" as some have said. That is because for two straight years he has shed his antlers with severe pedical damage. Broken out of his skull with almost golf-ball sized chunks of skull attached to the bottoms of his pedicals. I can put both years sets of matching sheds in your hands and let you see for yourself. THAT is why he looks so "unique", not because of his genetics, or because he's pen released, or whatever. Y'all can roll your eyes all you want at any part of this, go right ahead. I guess I'm just an oddball on here for not divulging that information from the start. But I'm smart enough, and respectful enough to my family to not run my mouth on the open internet about any of our business. Apparently, as some would say, I'm "burdened" and have an obligation to do just that?
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:31 AM   #176
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What a terrible thread. The audacity is AWESOME. Normally not one to get upset about anything, but between the open thread comments from a few, and the PM's from a half dozen..This will be the last time I post a picture of ANY deer on our place on this board.

But I will attempt to set the record straight for those of you that feel as if you are entitled to knowing my families business simply because I posted a picture of a really neat deer.

To classify myself as Tex_Cattleman wishes, we are high-fenced (which I already said) and we introduced genetics. But, that deer is a wild deer. As wild as any of y'alls. He's "unnatural" as some have said. That is because for two straight years he has shed his antlers with severe pedical damage. Broken out of his skull with almost golf-ball sized chunks of skull attached to the bottoms of his pedicals. I can put both years sets of matching sheds in your hands and let you see for yourself. THAT is why he looks so "unique", not because of his genetics, or because he's pen released, or whatever. Y'all can roll your eyes all you want at any part of this, go right ahead. I guess I'm just an oddball on here for not divulging that information from the start. But I'm smart enough, and respectful enough to my family to not run my mouth on the open internet about any of our business. Apparently, as some would say, I'm "burdened" and have an obligation to do just that?
Don't sweat the small stuff. most of us are just jealous. I for one would love to keep seeing pictures of deer that big.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:32 AM   #177
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D I think it's a beautiful buck! Congrats! I'd rather not read a story than to read a made up story... Like others have done recently.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:36 AM   #178
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very nice. Thank you for sharing
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:36 AM   #179
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WOW Daddy that is one awesome buck! I don't care what tag number was on his ear - he's #1 in my book! WOW! I can't stop looking at him.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:37 AM   #180
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What a terrible thread. The audacity is AWESOME. Normally not one to get upset about anything, but between the open thread comments from a few, and the PM's from a half dozen..This will be the last time I post a picture of ANY deer on our place on this board.

But I will attempt to set the record straight for those of you that feel as if you are entitled to knowing my families business simply because I posted a picture of a really neat deer.

To classify myself as Tex_Cattleman wishes, we are high-fenced (which I already said) and we introduced genetics. But, that deer is a wild deer. As wild as any of y'alls. He's "unnatural" as some have said. That is because for two straight years he has shed his antlers with severe pedical damage. Broken out of his skull with almost golf-ball sized chunks of skull attached to the bottoms of his pedicals. I can put both years sets of matching sheds in your hands and let you see for yourself. THAT is why he looks so "unique", not because of his genetics, or because he's pen released, or whatever. Y'all can roll your eyes all you want at any part of this, go right ahead. I guess I'm just an oddball on here for not divulging that information from the start. But I'm smart enough, and respectful enough to my family to not run my mouth on the open internet about any of our business. Apparently, as some would say, I'm "burdened" and have an obligation to do just that?
If you introduced genetics, how do you know the deer is wild? DNA? I like the white horns too

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Old 10-25-2012, 07:39 AM   #181
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D I think it's a beautiful buck! Congrats! I'd rather not read a story than to read a made up story... Like others have done recently.
How come a pond and a large cat come cross my mind???
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:40 AM   #182
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D I think it's a beautiful buck! Congrats! I'd rather not read a story than to read a made up story... Like others have done recently.
There was that one tall tale, it was priceless!
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:52 AM   #183
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I agree

That's why the Mexico guys always say "Mexico buck" in their tittles. We then know right there they killed another pet. Lmfao. Hi Mexico guys.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:55 AM   #184
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Wow - sad to hear all the negative feedback.

The green screen sure has changed.

Kill a smaller buck and get asked if you're sure it was AR legal.
Kill a spike or deer less than 4.5 and get debated for management practice
Kill a big deer and its high/low fence and genetics

Looks like the only deer to be proud of is a 150 class, free range, non east-texas (but not out of state) , 7yr old, killed without a Rage or Whisker biscuit.

Great Deer - Congrats
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:56 AM   #185
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How come a pond and a large cat come cross my mind???
Lmao... That was one of the best tall tales on TBH. And I only let it ride for 24 hours exact... It was all in good fun! There is a difference...
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:58 AM   #186
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great looking buck! shot on a lease, pvt land?
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:01 AM   #187
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Wow - sad to hear all the negative feedback.

The green screen sure has changed.

Kill a smaller buck and get asked if you're sure it was AR legal.
Kill a spike or deer less than 4.5 and get debated for management practice
Kill a big deer and its high/low fence and genetics

Looks like the only deer to be proud of is a 150 class, free range, non east-texas (but not out of state) , 7yr old, killed without a Rage or Whisker biscuit.

Great Deer - Congrats
Not at all. Great deer ? YES! And yes hunting has changed. All we ask is to give all the details. Heck there are those that have killed breeder deer in cattle trailers !!! and that's a fact
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:11 AM   #188
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Lmao!!!! Nice deer!!!!

I gotta remember to check this forum more often...good shtuff over here!!!

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Old 10-25-2012, 08:16 AM   #189
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I agree

That's why the Mexico guys always say "Mexico buck" in their tittles. We then know right there they killed another pet. Lmfao. Hi Mexico guys.
Breezy Breezy NREEZY
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Wow - sad to hear all the negative feedback.

The green screen sure has changed.

Kill a smaller buck and get asked if you're sure it was AR legal.
Kill a spike or deer less than 4.5 and get debated for management practice
Kill a big deer and its high/low fence and genetics

Looks like the only deer to be proud of is a 150 class, free range, non east-texas (but not out of state) , 7yr old, killed without a Rage or Whisker biscuit.Great Deer - Congrats
Now this post made me laugh...........

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Wow - sad to hear all the negative feedback.

The green screen sure has changed.

Kill a smaller buck and get asked if you're sure it was AR legal.
Kill a spike or deer less than 4.5 and get debated for management practice
Kill a big deer and its high/low fence and genetics

Looks like the only deer to be proud of is a 150 class, free range, non east-texas (but not out of state) , 7yr old, killed without a Rage or Whisker biscuit.

Great Deer - Congrats
This.
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Just to play with fire, I'll throw out two hypotheticals. Since I'm a nice guy, and can handle myself in a civil manner, ideally... I would expect everyone else to do the same. It's really not that hard (well, for some, I guess it's pretty hard).

First one: High fenced ranch, PURELY "native" deer. Never introduced a dang thing. All you did was put up a high fence and start managing.

Second one: High fenced ranch, you kill every "native" deer inside the high fence, and introduce new genetics.


Question: When fawns start hitting the ground that are products of out in the pasture breeding, are those fawns in hypo two "less wild" than the fawns in hypo one? What about their fawns (the third generation fawns)?
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:17 AM   #193
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No sir no difference they are wild deer in both scenarios.

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Just to play with fire, I'll throw out two hypotheticals. Since I'm a nice guy, and can handle myself in a civil manner, ideally... I would expect everyone else to do the same. It's really not that hard (well, for some, I guess it's pretty hard).

First one: High fenced ranch, PURELY "native" deer. Never introduced a dang thing. All you did was put up a high fence and start managing.

Second one: High fenced ranch, you kill every "native" deer inside the high fence, and introduce new genetics.


Question: When fawns start hitting the ground that are products of out in the pasture breeding, are those fawns in hypo two "less wild" than the fawns in hypo one? What about their fawns (the third generation fawns)?
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Just to play with fire, I'll throw out two hypotheticals. Since I'm a nice guy, and can handle myself in a civil manner, ideally... I would expect everyone else to do the same. It's really not that hard (well, for some, I guess it's pretty hard).

First one: High fenced ranch, PURELY "native" deer. Never introduced a dang thing. All you did was put up a high fence and start managing.

Second one: High fenced ranch, you kill every "native" deer inside the high fence, and introduce new genetics.


Question: When fawns start hitting the ground that are products of out in the pasture breeding, are those fawns in hypo two "less wild" than the fawns in hypo one? What about their fawns (the third generation fawns)?
They're wild unless you have them penned up for soft release. That is my opinion.

Doing it with a native herd like Marko's family for example, has... Is more impressive. We didn't have the genetic structure to go this route.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:30 AM   #195
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They're wild unless you have them penned up for soft release. That is my opinion.

Doing it with a native herd like Marko's family for example, has... Is more impressive. We didn't have the genetic structure to go this route.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:36 AM   #196
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That's a beast!
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:34 PM   #197
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Okay. To build on the line of thinking that's been mentioned above: Do we call both of these deer in the hypos "native"?
Is one hypo inherently harder/easier to hunt than the other?
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Okay. To build on the line of thinking that's been mentioned above: Do we call both of these deer in the hypos "native"?
Is one hypo inherently harder/easier to hunt than the other?
Scenario one: native.

Scenario two: non-native.

Every ranch is different when it comes to difficulty to hunt or locate the target animal. Low or High, non-native (stocked) versus native.

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:09 PM   #199
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Helluva deer regardless. I never understood the disdain some have about high fence, management plans, inputting better genetics etc. I don't have the means but if I did, I would.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:37 PM   #200
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Scenario one: native.

Scenario two: non-native.

Every ranch is different when it comes to difficulty to hunt or locate the target animal. Low or High, non-native (stocked) versus native.
I agree with this.

But, (to play devils advocate), can't someone technically say "well that deer was born underneath that bush over there... isn't that native?"

Assuming we aren't going to call the second hypo native, what makes the first one native? Is it that the first hypo fawn was born ON the ranch and is native to THAT ranch? Because if that is the case, the second hypo fawn falls under the same classification.

Or is it distance from where ever you "think" that deer should be from? If that is the argument. What if I pick that fawn up, walk across the county road, and put it in my high fence? Non native now? Or native? How far would one have to take that deer? With high fences, this argument about native gets a little funny, IMO. Opens itself to many differing opinions.
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