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Old 05-15-2017, 10:22 PM   #1
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Default Forming 280AI brass from 30-06

Yes the Nosler factory brass is good and I have had great luck with it but it has been near non-existent for nearly a year so...

I purchased Lapua 30-06 brass & a Hornady hydro-form die.

This process has many steps but it is still very cost effective and saves round count on a quality rifle.

I used a Redding 3 die set, the neck sizing die crushed the first 3 cases I tried so I switched to the body die. This eked the cases down some but not enough to feed into the hydro die so I went back to the neck die.

I set up the hydro die and used this bottle to fill the cases with alcohol
3 firm hits of a dead blow produced dang nice results with next to no liquid leakage so long as I removed the stem prior to lowering the brass.

1,3&5 are new un-fired formed cases while 2&4 are Nos brass with 6 firings.


The necks are thick and will require turning next.

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Old 05-16-2017, 07:28 AM   #2
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:09 PM   #3
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Are they the same length?
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Are they the same length?


They are the same length but the shoulders aren't quite as sharp as the fired cases. Still much better than all the extra wasted shots and head space issues associated with forming 30-06 brass to 280AI
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:43 PM   #5
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whew, glad I have a bunch of 280ai brass on-hand.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:15 PM   #6
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Very very nice! Kudos, sir!


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Old 05-16-2017, 09:24 PM   #7
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Since when has the hornady/norma gone missing?? I have a box of 50 I haven't broken the seal on yet.

Nice work...although it looks like a lot of it. You should get a bunch more case life with those. I wonder if re-annealing is worth it?? Lapua is da bomb.


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Edit...sorry brother.

I had a brain toot & just went out and checked...It's the Nosler I have been shooting, although I'm not certain if they roll their own?? Again, I have a .311 neck & this brass has been measuring .309-.310 loaded.

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Since when has the hornady/norma gone missing?? I have a box of 50 I haven't broken the seal on yet.

Nice work...although it looks like a lot of it. You should get a bunch more case life with those. I wonder if re-annealing is worth it?? Lapua is da bomb.


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Edit...sorry brother.

I had a brain toot & just went out and checked...It's the Nosler I have been shooting, although I'm not certain if they roll their own?? Again, I have a .311 neck & this brass has been measuring .309-.310 loaded.


Nosler has served me well but they just can't keep up on production it seems. The rifle these are for has real potential so the better Lapua brass and being able to turn the necks to fit the chamber is worth it to me.
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Nosler has served me well but they just can't keep up on production it seems. The rifle these are for has real potential so the better Lapua brass and being able to turn the necks to fit the chamber is worth it to me.
I totally understand the disease amigo...gotta realize mine has my name along with born on date of December 28th 1994 inscribed on the bbl. No idea of how many rounds or the different scopes that have been on the gun.

You are evolving as I did...one thing I realized is a 1/4" gun doesn't kill any better than a 1/2" gun & quit chasing my tail as I got older.

The one thing I am interested in is how many reloads you get out of the Lapua, as the Nosler is soft & sucks, but I run hot...it will be a sad day when I have to re-barrel. I love this gun.
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I totally understand the disease amigo...gotta realize mine has my name along with born on date of December 28th 1994 inscribed on the bbl. No idea of how many rounds or the different scopes that have been on the gun.



You are evolving as I did...one thing I realized is a 1/4" gun doesn't kill any better than a 1/2" gun & quit chasing my tail as I got older.



The one thing I am interested in is how many reloads you get out of the Lapua, as the Nosler is soft & sucks, but I run hot...it will be a sad day when I have to re-barrel. I love this gun.


Yep, I did all this back in the day with my 270 and got over it for the same reasons you mention.

I was forced into this due to quality brass availability. At least I didn't have to weight sort and cull 25% of my brass like before, but that's why I went Lapua
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Looks good!!

If anyone is interested I found these. http://www.casingsplus.com/280-ackley-imp-brass-50-ct/
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Looks good!!

If anyone is interested I found these. http://www.casingsplus.com/280-ackley-imp-brass-50-ct/
Rare find right now but dang $1.59 ea???
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I get doing this from lapua brass because it's so good.

But just a thought, how much is the hydroform die, and could you just do this with Nosler or some other brand standard 280 brass?
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I get doing this from lapua brass because it's so good.

But just a thought, how much is the hydroform die, and could you just do this with Nosler or some other brand standard 280 brass?


Any std 280 Rem brass can be fire formed without issue but I don't want to waste that much powder/bullets/primers/barrel life.

Nosler 280AI brass is hard to find and 35% more than Lapua when found so.....
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Sorry, i should have been more clear. I was thinking hydroform instead of fire forming, don't care to waste a bunch of time and bullets and powder. I was just interested in seeing if it would be easier/cheaper/less time to do this instead.

Thanks
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:09 AM   #16
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Sorry, i should have been more clear. I was thinking hydroform instead of fire forming, don't care to waste a bunch of time and bullets and powder. I was just interested in seeing if it would be easier/cheaper/less time to do this instead.

Thanks


IMO yes and because 06 headspaces shorter than 280 fireforming is a little tricky too.
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:36 PM   #17
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Will you be selling any brass? I wouldn't mind buying a few to try before I spent the 200 for a die.
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