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Old 01-23-2018, 02:25 PM   #1
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Default TPWD proposed deer season changes for next year

Cliff notes, general deer season ends on the third sunday of January 2019, air bows and air rifles legalized for take of deer, late muzzle loader, late antlerless/spike, & late youth run two weeks after general season into february.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/business/feed...on/index.phtml

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Old 01-23-2018, 02:36 PM   #2
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And antler restrictions in many Panhandle counties for mule deer.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:38 PM   #3
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looks like normal season is getting close to the same length as MLD leases, good deal!
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looks good to me!
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That's awesome. The later the better around our area!
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Hope they have examples of this happening and aren't dealing with hypotheticals

"The department is concerned that in counties where the antler restriction is in effect and the buck bag limit is two or more, a hunter might accidentally or intentionally harvest a buck that is not legal to kill and then take another buck with an inside spread of greater than 13 inches, which defeats the purpose of the rule. Therefore, the proposed amendment would clarify that in each county where the antler-restrictions are imposed, it would be unlawful to harvest more than one buck that has two branched antlers."
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:55 PM   #8
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Hope they have examples of this happening and aren't dealing with hypotheticals

"The department is concerned that in counties where the antler restriction is in effect and the buck bag limit is two or more, a hunter might accidentally or intentionally harvest a buck that is not legal to kill and then take another buck with an inside spread of greater than 13 inches, which defeats the purpose of the rule. Therefore, the proposed amendment would clarify that in each county where the antler-restrictions are imposed, it would be unlawful to harvest more than one buck that has two branched antlers."
Yeah, that's the only part that I'd change. TPWD's obsession with killing yearling spikes is beyond me. If they'd leave the babies alone, then there would be more older 13"+ bucks to go around, and hunters could kill 2/year in those counties. And all the folks who "don't eat them horns" would have a little more meat in the freezer from the bigger deer as well.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:01 PM   #9
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Sounds good!
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Hope they have examples of this happening and aren't dealing with hypotheticals

"The department is concerned that in counties where the antler restriction is in effect and the buck bag limit is two or more, a hunter might accidentally or intentionally harvest a buck that is not legal to kill and then take another buck with an inside spread of greater than 13 inches, which defeats the purpose of the rule. Therefore, the proposed amendment would clarify that in each county where the antler-restrictions are imposed, it would be unlawful to harvest more than one buck that has two branched antlers."
Not sure what is changing, I guess maybe the wording, because thats how the law is now. Its not changing anything. Unless I'm reading it wrong.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:07 PM   #11
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Glad this was brought up, maybe someone can clarify something for me. Late season Antlerless spike went until the 21st of January this past season. My son tagged a doe on the 14th in Sutton County. That was fine, but since he will be 10 this year, does that mean he could shoot a Buck after General Season ends? OR is the late youth season a county to county situation? We mostly hunt East Texas, but get to go on a few hunts to Sutton county. Thanks for the help.
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Yeah, that's the only part that I'd change. TPWD's obsession with killing yearling spikes is beyond me. If they'd leave the babies alone, then there would be more older 13"+ bucks to go around, and hunters could kill 2/year in those counties. And all the folks who "don't eat them horns" would have a little more meat in the freezer from the bigger deer as well.
Yeah, the "kill the spikes" deal is just completely bassackwards. I wish I knew the thinking behind that...

I guess though, the people who kill spikes are just screwing themselves, except on small properties, and then they're screwing the neighbors too.
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Yeah, the "kill the spikes" deal is just completely bassackwards. I wish I knew the thinking behind that...
TPWD's Kerr WMA research from a few decades ago is what they're apparently still hung up on and sticking with. But that has been pretty handily refuted. I guess they're like most of the rest of us.....it's hard to admit when you're wrong sometimes.
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That's awesome. The later the better around our area!
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:28 PM   #15
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Glad this was brought up, maybe someone can clarify something for me. Late season Antlerless spike went until the 21st of January this past season. My son tagged a doe on the 14th in Sutton County. That was fine, but since he will be 10 this year, does that mean he could shoot a Buck after General Season ends? OR is the late youth season a county to county situation? We mostly hunt East Texas, but get to go on a few hunts to Sutton county. Thanks for the help.
Late youth is for every county that has a General season. He’s good until he’s 17.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:49 PM   #17
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And antler restrictions in many Panhandle counties for mule deer.
thank goodness....seeing lots of young mule deer bucks shot often... can't imagine what some maturity would do for them
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:59 PM   #18
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so in van Zandt cty, we could hunt until 3rd sunday in January, then have antlerless/spike and youth season until first sunday in feb?
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Old 01-23-2018, 04:14 PM   #19
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so in van Zandt cty, we could hunt until 3rd sunday in January, then have antlerless/spike and youth season until first sunday in feb?
You wouldn’t have antlerless/spike in Van Zandt. It appears that muzzleloader and youth would be the two weeks after general season going into February

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Old 01-23-2018, 06:10 PM   #20
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:15 PM   #21
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They oughta just leave good enough alone. We already have deer that have shed and season will run till mid Feb? Gonna be plenty of “antlerless” deer killed.
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That’s awesome
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:21 PM   #23
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I don't mind a later season for culls and does. I already get nervous as heck starting around Christmas, hoping that my nice deer that I want to live, which start showing themselves for food, don't get killed by the neighbors. One more week of worrying would drive me crazy.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:32 PM   #24
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I don't mind a later season for culls and does. I already get nervous as heck starting around Christmas, hoping that my nice deer that I want to live, which start showing themselves for food, don't get killed by the neighbors. One more week of worrying would drive me crazy.
I was thinking the same thing! A nice buck I've been watching made it through the general season, cause i saw him at the corn feeder last weekend. I was truly relieved he made it. One more week would drive me nuts!
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What are the proposed season dates?
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:35 PM   #26
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They oughta just leave good enough alone. We already have deer that have shed and season will run till mid Feb? Gonna be plenty of “antlerless” deer killed.
That is why on a MLD lease I was on after the regular season ended we could only shoot bucks. Did not want people shooting what they thought was a big doe.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:36 PM   #27
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Saturday closest to Sep 30- third weekend of January, then late youth/muzzleloader for two weeks.
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That is why on a MLD lease I was on after the regular season ended we could only shoot bucks. Did not want people shooting what they thought was a big doe.
Yeah they’re gonna screw up doing this. A lot of people I know wait till ML to kill their does. We already have a 4 month deer season as if that’s not long enough. I get why the south Texas folk want it later but just change that region.
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looks like normal season is getting close to the same length as MLD leases, good deal!
Yep. Next stop, bag limit reductions (hopefully, at least in some areas...maybe they'll just make AR counties 1 buck counties so 1.5 yr. old spike aren't walking dead).
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:41 PM   #30
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What are the proposed season dates?
Archery opens Sept. 29th based on seasons past.

General Season opens November 3rd

General season ends on January 20th if I interpreted the OP's post correctly


Not official, just my guess!
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:42 PM   #31
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:44 PM   #32
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Yep. Next stop, bag limit reductions (hopefully, at least in some areas...maybe they'll just make AR counties 1 buck counties so 1.5 yr. old spike aren't walking dead).
That would be a good change
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Thanks Todd and Solo
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:06 PM   #34
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Bull21 thanks for the clarity.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:07 PM   #35
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I think this will be a great thing!
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There are some proposed archery equipment changes as well. Everything in red would be removed:

2) Archery.

(A) – (B) (No change.)

(C) While hunting turkey and all game animals other than squirrels by means of longbow, compound bow, or recurved bow the arrow must be equipped with a broadhead hunting point [at least 7/8-inch in width upon impact, with a minimum of two cutting edges. A mechanical broadhead must begin to open upon impact and when open must be a minimum of 7/8-inch in width].

(D) (No change.)

(3) Crossbow — Special Provisions.

(A) (No change.)

(B) When hunting turkey and all game animals other than squirrels by means of crossbow[:]

[(i) the crossbow must have a minimum of 125 pounds of pull;]

[(ii) the crossbow must have a mechanical safety;]

[(iii) the crossbow stock must be not less than 25 inches in length; and]


[(iv)] the bolt must conform with paragraph (2)(B) and (C) of this section.
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Yeah, the "kill the spikes" deal is just completely bassackwards. I wish I knew the thinking behind that...

I guess though, the people who kill spikes are just screwing themselves, except on small properties, and then they're screwing the neighbors too.
I think it has a lot to do with population control.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:28 PM   #38
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I think it has a lot to do with population control.
Let AR counties shoot does in general season. Some can, Waller Co can't.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:09 PM   #40
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Not sure what is changing, I guess maybe the wording, because thats how the law is now. Its not changing anything. Unless I'm reading it wrong.
Thats the only thing that confused me, I don't think the anything is changing just the verbage of how the regulation is worded.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:20 PM   #41
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I don't mind a later season for culls and does. I already get nervous as heck starting around Christmas, hoping that my nice deer that I want to live, which start showing themselves for food, don't get killed by the neighbors. One more week of worrying would drive me crazy.
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I was thinking the same thing! A nice buck I've been watching made it through the general season, cause i saw him at the corn feeder last weekend. I was truly relieved he made it. One more week would drive me nuts!
They are proposing two more weeks added to general season to match up with south texas.

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Yeah they’re gonna screw up doing this. A lot of people I know wait till ML to kill their does. We already have a 4 month deer season as if that’s not long enough. I get why the south Texas folk want it later but just change that region.
Can't disagree, buch of bucks in our area dropped their antler by the first week in january this year.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:34 PM   #42
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And antler restrictions in many Panhandle counties for mule deer.
I wish they would have done this for several of the far west/southern panhandle counties. Ward, Crane, Reeves, Pecos county west of 385 and north of I10 Etc... Hopefully this experimental restriction goes well and they implement it in other counties as well.

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Old 01-23-2018, 08:40 PM   #43
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Oh I'm all for this!!!!!!
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:43 PM   #44
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My wife just said if this happens the divorce rate will go up!
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:16 PM   #45
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I like the proposed changes.

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Old 01-23-2018, 09:17 PM   #46
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Probably going to raise prices on hunting license, with longer season.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:27 PM   #47
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So when do they decide?
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:39 PM   #48
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Yep. Next stop, bag limit reductions (hopefully, at least in some areas...maybe they'll just make AR counties 1 buck counties so 1.5 yr. old spike aren't walking dead).
I am all for a one buck limit. We have limited our leases that way for 20 years.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:41 PM   #49
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AR's are great.. We need more.. I wish they would implement restrictions in all hill country counties..
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they should shorten the season in AR counties to help deer get past 3.5
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