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Old 09-14-2020, 03:01 PM   #1
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I have an approx. 300' x 12' of Caliche drive way where the weeds often take over. Doing a little research it appears some type of pre emergent would be best. What do you folks recommend? Brand, how often, economical, etc..
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:05 PM   #2
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:07 PM   #3
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Too late for winter weeds this year. In very early spring you can put out Halts pre emergent for warm season weeds.
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:07 PM   #4
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Is that liquid or granular?

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Too late for winter weeds this year. In very early spring you can put out Halts pre emergent for warm season weeds.
Why do you say its too late for a winter per-emergent?
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:15 PM   #6
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Get you a jug of Pramitol 25E. It’s a pre and post emergent herbicide/ soil sterilant. It will keep the drive clear for a minimum of 1 year. DO NOT LET THIS PRODUCT GET WHERE YOU DONT WANT IT.
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Why do you say its too late for a winter per-emergent?
My guy says Oct 1, hope heís right.
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:19 PM   #8
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Get you a jug of Pramitol 25E. Itís a pre and post emergent herbicide/ soil sterilant. It will keep the drive clear for a minimum of 1 year. DO NOT LET THIS PRODUCT GET WHERE YOU DONT WANT IT.
Can you get that tractor supply?
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Can you get that tractor supply?
I do not think so, but they do have similar products just not as cheap
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My guy says Oct 1, hope heís right.
I havenít put mine out on my yard yet either. As long as soil temps are well above 75 degrees I am afraid if anything itís too early. I will probably go ahead and apply this week
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Why do you say its too late for a winter per-emergent?
In north Texas the last day to put it out was Labor Day for it to work.
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Is that liquid or granular?
Granulated.
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following. I have the same problem.
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:52 PM   #15
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RM43 at Tractor supply - I have the same situation you do and I spray the entire area - last about a year - and make sure no run off can take to plants or trees you do not want dead - I use on my fencelines, etc too
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:55 PM   #17
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RM43 at Tractor supply - I have the same situation you do and I spray the entire area - last about a year - and make sure no run off can take to plants or trees you do not want dead - I use on my fencelines, etc too
Expand on the run off. Am I concerned with the run off of the product itself, or if it rains 2 or 3 days later and leaches 200'?

If you see last pic. The property does run down hill. Oaks and Elms are a couple hundred feet away.
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:05 PM   #18
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I use a product from do my own pest control for our parking area, works great. Let me look it up. Was wrong on supplier but they probably have it too

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Old 09-14-2020, 04:09 PM   #19
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Ecomazapyr 2sl from Sunspot Supply is what I used and not a weed or grass for over 6 months

1 gal concentrate $92.75

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Old 09-14-2020, 04:13 PM   #20
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It warns against run off but no problem for me and I get alot of run off in rains, I think it was more about application and rains then. Grass in drainage area were never affected. Temps are still good for application but warmer the better.
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Expand on the run off. Am I concerned with the run off of the product itself, or if it rains 2 or 3 days later and leaches 200'?

If you see last pic. The property does run down hill. Oaks and Elms are a couple hundred feet away.
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it is more that if it rains shortly after you apply - I use it near my house and never had any runoff issues

also it is not as fast acting as Roundup - takes 5-6 days before you see it affecting the existing weeds -
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:51 PM   #22
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ATV with a boom sprayer and roundup
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here is my area I sprayed about a month ago -
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the problem I found with round up for this type of application is that it only kills the current weeds and does not kill the seeds - so more weeds come right back up
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the problem I found with round up for this type of application is that it only kills the current weeds and does not kill the seeds - so more weeds come right back up
My rye laughs at roundup.
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also use surfactant in mix
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Old 09-14-2020, 08:02 PM   #28
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About the only thing that'll get everything is the 2 listed above, ecomazapyr and pramitol. Bad thing is will run being it stays in the soil. Don't put it under the drip line of a tree or near any grass you want to keep.

About the safest thing I can think of is something with the active ingredient pendimethalin. Ive used a lot of pendulum 3.3
That is a good safe pre emergent thatll take care of weeds and most annual grasses as well as johnson and sandbur.

You'll need to tank mix with glyphosate.

All you'll need to touch up is the perennial grasses that pop up with the glyphosate every now and then.

There is better stuff but its high dollar. I have a side spraying business so I've ran a bunch of products.

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Get you a jug of Pramitol 25E. Itís a pre and post emergent herbicide/ soil sterilant. It will keep the drive clear for a minimum of 1 year. DO NOT LET THIS PRODUCT GET WHERE YOU DONT WANT IT.

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Old 09-14-2020, 08:34 PM   #30
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the problem I found with round up for this type of application is that it only kills the current weeds and does not kill the seeds - so more weeds come right back up
Correct, Round Up is a post emergent weed control so it will just kill what weeds are already up. Spray the Round up to kill the existing weeds and then follow up 4-7 days later with your pre-emerge. Buy one from your local garden or farm supply store as it will be cheaper and better than the one at Lowe's. Ask the store the optimum time(s) to put it out in your area. Read the product label for coverage and time between applications. I believe most 50lb bags will cover about 8,000 square feet. Most of them are applied twice a year, usually about now and again in mid-February in north Texas.

I'm sure most of the other products mentioned will do an excellent job. But as mentioned, be EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS if you have desirable trees, shrubs, or grass that you do not want to kill. I had a neighbor a few houses down who had a local landscape company do something to his lawn and it killed EVERYTHING, including several live oaks that were 20+ years old. They've replanted several mature trees in efforts to correct it and many of them have died as well.

Don't spray on windy days and be sure to wear long pants and closed toe shoes/boots.

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With a title like weed control, Im really surprised this thread managed to stay on track. Very unTBH like.
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About the only thing that'll get everything is the 2 listed above, ecomazapyr and pramitol. Bad thing is will run being it stays in the soil. Don't put it under the drip line of a tree or near any grass you want to keep.

About the safest thing I can think of is something with the active ingredient pendimethalin. Ive used a lot of pendulum 3.3
That is a good safe pre emergent thatll take care of weeds and most annual grasses as well as johnson and sandbur.

You'll need to tank mix with glyphosate.

All you'll need to touch up is the perennial grasses that pop up with the glyphosate every now and then.

There is better stuff but its high dollar. I have a side spraying business so I've ran a bunch of products.

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This is the answer, 3 products to chose from.
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Old 09-14-2020, 09:05 PM   #34
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Esplanade EZ. Kills EVERYTHING it touches and lasts a year or so. Works quick too. 24 hours you can see exactly where you hit or missed.
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Old 09-15-2020, 12:18 PM   #35
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Good stuff. Thanks all!
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