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    Originally posted by Shane View Post
    I'm not a fan of Mueller's or the whole Russia investigation mess. I'm just saying that Trump made mistakes that contributed toward creating the mess, and now he's flailing about trying to make it go away - and it isn't working.

    I'm pretty disgusted with all but about 4 or 5 people in Washington, D.C.. They all SUCK. None of them care a lick about doing what's right for the country. The federal government, at every level, has way too much power. It's clear now that we can't fix it by electing different people and sending them there. The whole system has been corrupted beyond repair. The best fix is the Convention of States effort to amend the Constitution in order for the states and the citizens to take the power back and put some serious limits on federal government power.

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      Originally posted by Shane View Post
      I'm not a fan of Mueller's or the whole Russia investigation mess. I'm just saying that Trump made mistakes that contributed toward creating the mess, and now he's flailing about trying to make it go away - and it isn't working.

      I'm pretty disgusted with all but about 4 or 5 people in Washington, D.C.. They all SUCK. None of them care a lick about doing what's right for the country. The federal government, at every level, has way too much power. It's clear now that we can't fix it by electing different people and sending them there. The whole system has been corrupted beyond repair. The best fix is the Convention of States effort to amend the Constitution in order for the states and the citizens to take the power back and put some serious limits on federal government power.
      It's been 6 months. We knew this was going to be a ruckus, that's why he was elected. Give it some time. One guy getting road blocks thrown at him every day by the people he promised to oust isn't exactly proof it isn't working. Let's see if we the people can add more outsiders in the primaries.

      I'm with you on the Convention of States, that just seems like a pipe dream.

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        Originally posted by Clay C View Post
        It's been 6 months. We knew this was going to be a ruckus, that's why he was elected. Give it some time. One guy getting road blocks thrown at him every day by the people he promised to oust isn't exactly proof it isn't working. Let's see if we the people can add more outsiders in the primaries.

        I'm with you on the Convention of States, that just seems like a pipe dream.
        It is a pipe dream. But it's less of a pipe dream than hoping for a single person to ride into Washington and fix everything. That's impossible, and it's not just because of the last 6 months.

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          Originally posted by Shane View Post
          It is a pipe dream. But it's less of a pipe dream than hoping for a single person to ride into Washington and fix everything. That's impossible, and it's not just because of the last 6 months.
          That's my point. We only have a single person, so far. Let's see if we can't rid ourselves with some of these parasites in the primaries, then maybe some more in the next go round. This isn't going to be a quick easy fix, and no one expected it to be.

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            The swamp did get filled over night. You can't expect to be drained over night either. Give it some time

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              Originally posted by Clay C View Post
              That's my point. We only have a single person, so far. Let's see if we can't rid ourselves with some of these parasites in the primaries, then maybe some more in the next go round. This isn't going to be a quick easy fix, and no one expected it to be.
              We've been trying that for decades. The establishment rewards people who get elected and then cooperate with the establishment. They give them committee assignments and tons of cash. Anybody that doesn't go along loses their important committee assignments (which help in soliciting campaign donations from lobbyists) and the party cash. The establishment then funds primary challengers to defeat the guy that won't go along. The whole system is corrupted. We'd somehow need to elect a Republican majority that consisted almost exclusively of people who would work for the people's best interest in spite of all the party establishment power machine working against them. Right now we have Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Ben Sasse and just a small handful of others in Congress who are trustworthy to do what's right for the people. They are vastly outnumbered by establishment loyalists. It's theoretically possible that everybody all over the nation votes in more like Lee, Cruz and Sasse. But it's highly improbable.

              And even if that happens, the fix will only be good as long as those politicians stay in office AND stay uncorrupted while they're in office. The only conceivable long-term fix is the Convention of States project to place serious constitutional limits on the federal government. If we get that done, it will handcuff politicians permanently, and it won't matter who they are.

              We still need to vote for better politicians in the primaries. That goes without saying. But the system is so corrupted in its current state that we'll most likely never be able to get enough good guys elected to change anything.
              Last edited by Shane; 07-26-2017, 10:10 AM.

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                I used to believe that voting and primaries and just getting all the right people elected was possible. I don't anymore. Our country is way too under-informed, uneducated, misguided, and divided. We have WAY too many people who are sheep that are willing to blindly follow some "savior" that comes along and says everything they want to hear. Way too many suckers to put faith in voting to be the fix. If we don't tighten up the constraints on the federal government through some constitutional amendments somehow, and soon while at least there's still a chance, we'll be so far down the road to socialism or worse that we'll never get it back.

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                  While all of Trump's tweets have the media in a feeding frenzy he has been handing out one executive order after another that are largely going unnoticed. Many of which are rescinding Obama's orders many deemed unconstitutional.



                  Love him or hate him he is doing things that are seldom reported. Maybe he wants it that way. And maybe some are just afraid to bring attention to it. After all it's reported that he is a workaholic and goes non stop for 18-20 hours a day.

                  For the record I was a Cruz supporter. Before I was an outsider

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                    Originally posted by Shane View Post
                    I used to believe that voting and primaries and just getting all the right people elected was possible. I don't anymore. Our country is way too under-informed, uneducated, misguided, and divided. We have WAY too many people who are sheep that are willing to blindly follow some "savior" that comes along and says everything they want to hear. Way too many suckers to put faith in voting to be the fix. If we don't tighten up the constraints on the federal government through some constitutional amendments somehow, and soon while at least there's still a chance, we'll be so far down the road to socialism or worse that we'll never get it back.
                    Article V

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                      Originally posted by Shane View Post
                      I used to believe that voting and primaries and just getting all the right people elected was possible. I don't anymore. Our country is way too under-informed, uneducated, misguided, and divided. We have WAY too many people who are sheep that are willing to blindly follow some "savior" that comes along and says everything they want to hear. Way too many suckers to put faith in voting to be the fix. If we don't tighten up the constraints on the federal government through some constitutional amendments somehow, and soon while at least there's still a chance, we'll be so far down the road to socialism or worse that we'll never get it back.


                      In simpler words, "We are ****ed"!


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                        Originally posted by Swampa View Post
                        In simpler words, "We are ****ed"!


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                        Nah we survived 8 years of Obama. These are nothing but political distractions.


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                          Originally posted by JFISHER View Post
                          Article V


                          Article V offers the only constitutional solution as big as the problem. Together, we can end federal overreach.

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                            Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                            The shoe fit pretty good huh?


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                            No. It doesn't. Give an example of trump doing that.

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                              Originally posted by LFD2037 View Post
                              Sessions has done nothing so far. Here's a theory:
                              Sessions is weak
                              Trump says Tweet to **** of Sessions so he quits
                              Trump hires new AG that'll actually do his job & get a bunch of dem's thrown in prison
                              America wins
                              Yes/no?
                              Realistically, it's not just DEMS that need to be in jail. There are just as many REPS that are far past greedy and probably on the take selling this great country to the highest bidder.

                              Originally posted by Shane View Post
                              I used to believe that voting and primaries and just getting all the right people elected was possible. I don't anymore. Our country is way too under-informed, uneducated, misguided, and divided. We have WAY too many people who are sheep that are willing to blindly follow some "savior" that comes along and says everything they want to hear. Way too many suckers to put faith in voting to be the fix. If we don't tighten up the constraints on the federal government through some constitutional amendments somehow, and soon while at least there's still a chance, we'll be so far down the road to socialism or worse that we'll never get it back.
                              Agree that voting as a solution is not just no longer a valid solution but I think it's been gone for a long time. The parties in charge don't allow for candidates that are not owned in on way or another. Big money is running our political parties and both are far from being in politics to serve our country

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                                Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                                Quarterback of the team is responsible for ALL points being scored.

                                Why does the pitcher of a game get recorded a loss of he strikes out 26 in a row but the 27th batter hits a fly ball to deep right but it falls out of the fielders glove and the batter gets a ITP but really it was E9?



                                It's trumps fault because the POTUS is the leader of their party and it is being down he doesn't know how to lead

                                Rule, yes

                                But lead, no


                                Trump has gotten over 40 legislative acts in the first 100 days, most directed at helping businesses. In 6 months, we went from 4 years of averaging 2% growth to over 4%, despite all major economic think tanks saying it would be impossible.
                                The consumer confidence index has climbed beyond any expectation to over 120+, the highest in more than a decade. New housing sales are up, durable goods orders are up, job numbers are.climbing and the labor dept says company hiring expansion is climbing. In less than a year, rig counts in this country have doubled, and companies are refitting stacked rigs as fast as possible, which means millions for support companies.
                                In the first month, trump got the Chinese to start sanctioning NK and pressuring them on missile testing and nukes, now he has Russia discussing a cease fire in Syria and working with us, not against us in the Mid East. He went to Europe, and despite our media reports, was well received. He even got the NATO countries to finally agree to pay their part of their defense, instead of us paying billions to defend them.
                                Whose the quarterback this time?

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