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Old 02-16-2020, 10:31 AM   #1
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Seeing the tread on the ‘68 Remington got me to wondering about how Remington firearms are NOW. I know they hit a rough spot when Freedom Group bought them, but that was nearly 15 years ago.

I bought a Walmart special 700 ADL in 2016 or 2017 and have been thoroughly pleased.

So, anyone that has bought a new Remington in the last 5 or so years, what are your thoughts?

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Old 02-16-2020, 10:34 AM   #2
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Junk in comparison to the Remington firearms of yesteryear... Just talk to any experienced gunsmith if you can't see it yourself.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:18 PM   #4
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Junk in comparison to the Remington firearms of yesteryear... Just talk to any experienced gunsmith if you can't see it yourself.
This man would know. He has a serious affliction that causes him to buy every BDL he can get his hands on within a 300 mile radius.



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Old 02-16-2020, 12:24 PM   #5
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This man would know. He has a serious affliction that causes him to buy every BDL he can get his hands on within a 300 mile radius.



Not "every"!!! There are a bunch of good old ones out there.. I get what I can.. Many yet to be had..
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:27 PM   #6
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Not "every"!!! There are a bunch of good old ones out there.. I get what I can.. Many yet to be had..
True, and I appreciate you leaving me the stragglers.
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True, and I appreciate you leaving me the stragglers.
Hardly!!!
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Hahaha. Fine. Guilty here as well.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:27 PM   #9
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Not good speaking from the bolt action side of things. I haven’t worked on too many old Remingtons but the few that I have were better than most of the new (i.e. action face and lug perpendicularity with respect to the centerline of the action, thread concentricity and, the real kicker, action timing. Remington’s extraction timing has gone to hell in a hand basket. All of this happening while machines have gotten better. I personally think that the thought of the dollar is outweighing the pride of a job well done more and more everyday.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:47 PM   #10
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I bought a Remington ADL in .223 probably two years ago and it's the pretty close to if not the best shootin rifle I own. If my memory is spot on I went 63 consecutive rounds without missing a critter with it. Haven't had any problems with it at all as far as feeding issues or anything like that.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:49 PM   #11
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Bought a 700 CDL in 257 weatherby magnum. 26” fluted ss barrel. I am more than pleased with the preformance. Shells have actually gone down in cost.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:54 PM   #12
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Bought a new model 7 a few years back that didnt have extractor or even an extractor cut in the bolt.
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Old 02-16-2020, 03:30 PM   #13
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Stick1 (Robert at APR) posted a while back that he has seen significant improvements in the quality of their receivers lately.

I have several 5R rifles and they all shoot lights out.


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Old 02-16-2020, 05:07 PM   #14
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Stick1 (Robert at APR) posted a while back that he has seen significant improvements in the quality of their receivers lately.

I have several 5R rifles and they all shoot lights out.


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Mike, I was trying to remember who posted that. I remember it... He was "truing it up" for a build, and hardly touched it...
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:28 PM   #15
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I asked a gunsmith about them a few months ago and said that a lot of them are so bad that he can’t work in them to true them up. Has a stack that are junk.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:46 PM   #16
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Got an adl in a 308 just as a simple do all rifle 3 years ago.
I put a greyboe stock and a timney in it.
Shoots cheap federal “non typical” 150’s touching each other at 100 yards.

I haven’t noticed any manufacturing flaws. No, not as well made as older models but the deer and pigs don’t mind.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:31 PM   #17
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I asked a gunsmith about them a few months ago and said that a lot of them are so bad that he canít work in them to true them up. Has a stack that are junk.
So how old are all of these?
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:42 PM   #18
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I general I’d say they are junk now. You can still get decent ones every once and a while but overall I never recommend one to any of my customers. I do a lot of loading for customers and sometimes I can’t find a load that shoots sub-MOA.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:47 PM   #19
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So how old are all of these?
I didnít ask. But Iím assuming probably in the last year or so.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:53 PM   #20
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Mine shoots great. Bought it in 2017. I did do the trigger and stock though.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:20 AM   #21
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No, I don't think I bought from Remington firearms in past 5 years.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:55 AM   #22
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Owned a bunch of Remingtons over years..They all been great shooters ...22s/shotguns/rifles...
Haven't owned any in last 10y ...Thought I would try others.(give them a shot).Ruger /Savage/TC Encore/Marlin/Browning/BlackPowder too...still HAPPY..

Never owned a Winchester...just never did no reason...Shot plenty there ammo tho!
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:57 PM   #23
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I have several but the newest one I have I bought in about 2005. The newer ones I have seen do not compare in my opinion to the Remington of old. Today, if I were looking at a new rifle I would look at something like a Tikka.
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Old 02-17-2020, 07:01 PM   #24
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Old 02-17-2020, 07:12 PM   #25
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Their base guns like the 870, 700 and 11-87 are fine. The fit and finish isn't quite what it was but a once over with a file usually knocks of the burrs.
Actions I've done have only been out about .0005 - .003" on the 700s.
Most of the junk Remingtons I see come from Walmart which isn't entirely Remingtons fault. Walmart guns are not the same gun you get from the lgs. Walmart guns are SMU and are built to Walmart's specifications and price point.
The Versamax still likes to send charging handles into orbit but they send an improved "tactical" version that seems to work fine
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Old 02-17-2020, 07:52 PM   #26
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I have several but the newest one I have I bought in about 2005. The newer ones I have seen do not compare in my opinion to the Remington of old. Today, if I were looking at a new rifle I would look at something like a Tikka.
Watch what yea say, you can buy a t/c that shoots better for a 175.00. So I was told on here.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:33 PM   #27
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Junk in comparison to the Remington firearms of yesteryear... Just talk to any experienced gunsmith if you can't see it yourself.
So youíre the one that beats me to all the older 700ís! I have an addiction to them as well, in my opinion they are far superior to the newer ones. Do you have a hard time finding them in short action?
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:43 PM   #28
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Hard pass

Too many better options out there at a similar price point
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:16 PM   #29
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Watch what yea say, you can buy a t/c that shoots better for a 175.00. So I was told on here.
Here goes my TC story, again:

I bought a Venture in 30-06 a little over a year ago. I got a load made for it and it shot GREAT. I had it a few months and noticed some difficulty when working the bolt. Turned out the bolt stop had broke.

I called TC and they charged me $20 for the part and shipping and said it would be here in a week. Two weeks later, nothing, so I call back.

ďThat part is backordered.Ē
ďYou still make this rifle right?Ē
ďYes but our replacement parts come from a different facility. We canít jut go to the assembly line and get a bolt stop.Ē

Three months later I got the part, still got charged $20, and sold the rifle with a new bolt stop.


No TC for me.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:26 PM   #30
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I’ve held and shot many from cheap ADL’s to a 5R Tactical and all have been fine rifles. All of them shoot fantastic groups and are more than dependable. No complaints here.
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I bought a 5R in 308 in 2017 with great anticipation of it being a 1/4Ē gun. It was in the desert tan stock, fluted and thread. I was really looking for it to impress me.....long story short it was lame. Many factory loads and some hand loads and right at an inch was all it would do. Took it to a competent smith and he was unimpressed with the bolt face and ream within the chamber; poor detail in the machining was his comment.

Iíve bought Mauser M12, a Christensen, two Tikkas, two Vanguards, a Mark V and all shoot under and inch with two out of three factory loads.

Fact is Big Green has lost a step. Had A few newer 870s that were unimpressive too. Itís sad considering the amazing work present in my 1976 3200 and many of the 70s 1100s I cherish.

Buyouts and poor executive management have killed more than a few quality brands. Sad but it happens.
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I bought a .223 16" heavy barrel with the hogue stock that will shoot well under half inch with several "match" factory loads.
It has the cheap rough finish and the action isn't as smooth as the older ones with the jeweled bolt. But it is a shooter for sure.

I have had some issues with feeding. A lot of times it wants to let the bolt ride over the next round in the mag and not pick up but i haven't tweaked it much yet.
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Old 02-18-2020, 08:29 AM   #33
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if i found a nice older BDL id probably buy one. if i was going for an ADL id go with a nice savage instead.
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Old 02-18-2020, 08:30 AM   #34
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You take a chance with the Remingtons. Awesome designs, but the quality control is hit or miss. I know there is a HUGE difference in quality frome my old 870's to my new ones. I had a 700 ADL academy special in .270. It was very inconsistent. Every Once in awhile it would group good (sub MOA) but not consistently like my other rifles.
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Love the Remmy 700 SPS models. Been great and very accurate.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:08 AM   #36
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Got several ADL, BDL and CDL, my go to is basic ADL in a .243. Accurate with cheap federals. I admit my x-bolt is a close 2nd! I have not purchased any new 700's in a while, but with mass production and lower costs to buyers, quality suffers.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:34 AM   #37
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I bought a Remington 700 SPS Varmint in .22-250 a few years ago and it shoots one ragged hole at 100 yards consistently.

Also bought a Remington 700 Long Range SS in .300 win mag about 3 months ago and it shoots lights out as well. Me and a buddy shot 4 javelina in 4 shots (two each) from 450 yards with it.

The only thing that appears to be junk in these guns is the triggers, both of mine got Timney's immediately. Other than that, reliable and accurate.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:38 PM   #38
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I’m looking at the Remington 700 AWR in .270
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I wouldn't buy a new Remington personally, their QC is not as good as it used to be and there are other manufacturers that are kicking out a higher quality gun in regards to the fit and finish for the same price as the Remingtons.
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What about their shotguns? Iíve only seen a few comments here about the shotguns. I have an older 11-87 that I love, but the new ones come with plastic trigger housings and cheap ugly wood. Same with the new 870s. My grandpas old wing master seems to be a way smoother gun. But I have limited experience with the new stuff. Just handled them at the gun store. I have been thinking about a new V3, and the online reviews are pretty good. Supposed to have one of the best factory triggers available. We all know the 700 isnít what it once was, but has the shotgun lineup suffered the same fate?
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Good shotguns start with the letter B and really good ones end with eretta.
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Good shotguns start with the letter B and really good ones end with eretta.
^^^ Exactly! Although, I would add my Benelli Legacy 28 is a pretty sweet little semi-auto! But I am certainly partial of Beretta!
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The V3 and Versamax have been solid performers.Any issues have been taken care of quickly by Remington. That's ALOT more than I can say about Beretta/Benelli.
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The V3 and Versamax have been solid performers.Any issues have been taken care of quickly by Remington. That's ALOT more than I can say about Beretta/Benelli.
Didn’t know Beretta/Benelli had an issue?
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Good shotguns start with the letter B and really good ones end with eretta.
So I hear. But the A300 feels like cheap junk to me, and the A400 is front heavy. Even with an empty mag tube it just feels like it wants to tip forward. Both of these guns get great reviews though.

I just really wish there was a place that I could go shoot some skeet with all of the different shotguns out right now. You just cant get a good feel for them in a shop. And literally all the brands make something I like on paper.
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Didnít know Beretta/Benelli had an issue?
They ALL do at some point. Customer service can be the difference.
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:21 PM   #47
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The V3 and Versamax have been solid performers.Any issues have been taken care of quickly by Remington. That's ALOT more than I can say about Beretta/Benelli.
Not familiar with Beretta A400's having issues. Mine are absolute workhorses any time, any temp, anywhere. Love em.
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:28 PM   #48
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I bought a 700 long Range in 7 Mag. It is dead accurate. Near single hole with 162 ELD-X at 100 yrds. Don't know that it is the same action as the normal 700, but I am extremely pleased with the rifle.
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So youíre the one that beats me to all the older 700ís! I have an addiction to them as well, in my opinion they are far superior to the newer ones. Do you have a hard time finding them in short action?
Yes they are hard to find but I did find one in 6mm varmint, built in the 70's, in mint condition.. It is a sweet shooter.. I actually found it on here..
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