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Old 06-13-2018, 09:18 AM   #1
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Default Elk Hunt - Accubond Long Range v. Hornady Precision Hunter

If both of these rounds are equally accurate out of my rifle, which one of these bullets would you choose and why for an elk hunt?
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:05 AM   #2
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I dont have any experience with the precision hunter but I have shot a lot of animals with accubonds and they have worked excellent. I load accubonds for whatever rifle I take elk hunting each year. Either 30-06 or 300 wsm.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:07 AM   #3
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What distance are you planning on shooting? What caliber are you carrying?
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:07 AM   #4
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Since when did they start making accubond and hornady arrows???

I would go with the hornady, but I am sure the experts will chime in soon.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:20 AM   #5
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accubonds fo me, hornady has eldx bullets in them, the jury is still out on these bullets.at close range ive heard they come apart.ive got some but i havent seen their performance on big game yet.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:26 AM   #6
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First, what caliber and bullet weight are you considering? Not because you need input on that, which you will invariably will get (not from me), but because that affects the comparison of bullets for the application.

I really like the Ballistic Studies website discussion of factory loads. It seems the most objective to me in a world where opinions are a dime a dozen.

The Precision Hunter is loaded with ELD-X bullets.
I've had great success with them on pretty tough game... including a one shot kill on an auodad at 335 yards with a 117gr. .25 cal bullet.
The two are very similar... I like the positive interlock of the ELD-X over the mysterious "unique proprietary bonding process" used in the Accubond. On that basis I like the Partition over the Accubond as well, but you didn't ask that.
No doubt the Accubonds have a long history of superb performance.. when good caliber and weight choices are made for the application.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:28 AM   #7
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Since when did they start making accubond and hornady arrows???

I would go with the hornady, but I am sure the experts will chime in soon.
I told my elk outfitter I was planning to use Easton FMJs in September and he lit up.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:07 PM   #8
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accubonds fo me, hornady has eldx bullets in them, the jury is still out on these bullets.at close range ive heard they come apart.ive got some but i havent seen their performance on big game yet.
I specifically mentioned the Accubond Longrange which also have a real tendency to come apart at close range. We were loading them in 2 different rifles and after last years performance we are switching everything back to regular Accubonds
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:21 PM   #9
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If it were me, I'd choose the Accubonds. I've always wanted to like Hornady ammo, but I typically haven't seen results I like at the range or in the field with Hornady. Nosler products, on the other hand, have always performed more consistently, at least in my experience. I'm sure some others have had experiences to the contrary. I have more faith in Partitions and Accubonds, sometimes that makes the difference, faith in your equipment.

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Old 06-13-2018, 02:41 PM   #10
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Nosler products, on the other hand, have always performed more consistently, at least in my experience.
That has been my experience too. The 180 partitions are really accurate in my .300 winmag. Dropped a 300# aoudad with one well placed shot at 200 yards with excellent expansion.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:57 PM   #11
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I am a avid re loader and long range hunter with a rifle as well . I would suggest you to look into a Barnes tipped TSX . I have never had these bullets ever fail even with it has hit bone it will never come apart . 99-100 5 weight after the shot . I know it was not the two you had listed but my go to bullet for stopping thick skinned large animals has been Barnes . I have tried many others and and no longer look any further . If you not a re loader then buy it loaded You did not mention what caliber so hard to say or even suggest a weight per say good luck on your hunt .
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:30 PM   #12
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I've not been happy with the 143 ELDX in my .264 Win Mag. I've taken several deer at less than 100yds and the bullets came apart. I shoot either 165 or 180 gr Nosler Partitions out of my .300 Win Mag.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:49 PM   #13
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From what I’ve seen with the eldx you have to shoot through bone for them to perform correctly. Soft tissue or thin bone hits they won’t exit. Weird I know but I spent a lot of time with these these past two years and shooting deer on the Ranch I help on.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:59 PM   #14
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I'm in a similar position and leaning towards the accubonds (.308 165 gr)
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:34 AM   #15
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Good info I have seen the same thing with the items listed where as the TTSX will open each and every time Thin skin thick bone you name it . I have only recovered 1 bullet. My buddy shot a Cow moose and it was a quartering shot the bullet had smashed shoulder and pelvis and was just under the skin in the rump . 300 winmag 180 weight bullet .

it weighed 98% of original. text book peel back
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Old 06-14-2018, 11:35 AM   #16
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I've had exits on the 2 mature whitetail bucks with the 143gr eldx in my creedmoor at moderate ranges - 100-125yds. Great blood trails on both that a kid could follow - shot both through the shoulders and took out the lungs.

Maybe at the increased velocities in the 264wm they are not holding together?
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:19 PM   #17
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I've had exits on the 2 mature whitetail bucks with the 143gr eldx in my creedmoor at moderate ranges - 100-125yds. Great blood trails on both that a kid could follow - shot both through the shoulders and took out the lungs.

Maybe at the increased velocities in the 264wm they are not holding together?




That's what I think.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:42 PM   #18
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Accubond all the way for me. I killed a nice whitetail this past year at 302 yards with a 140 gr. Accubond in my 7/08. Complete pass through and the deer spun around and fell over dead.

If not the Accubond, I'd used the Barnes TTSX. I shoot them in my 7 RSAUM and my 257 Roberts. I've never recovered a bullet and all critters dropped where they stood.
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:12 PM   #19
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I specifically mentioned the Accubond Longrange which also have a real tendency to come apart at close range. We were loading them in 2 different rifles and after last years performance we are switching everything back to regular Accubonds
The Accubond Long Range doesn't have the reputation of the Accubond. Quite the opposite. Most of the responses address the Accubond and not the Long Range version. I have no experience with the Hornady Precision Hunter. Based on the reputation of these two bullets, I'd go to the original Accubond or look at the TSX or TTSX, both of which are wonderful.

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Old 06-14-2018, 08:41 PM   #20
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My choice would be a regular accubond.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:22 PM   #21
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Nothing wrong with the regular old hornady interlocks.
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:05 PM   #22
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Nosler Accubond 165gr out of my 308, dropped a bull in his tracks at 200yds. Also laid over a 200lb sow at 250yds, she ran about 20 yds. Great blood trail. Tikka T3 loves them, tight groups.
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:25 PM   #23
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Nosler Accubond 165gr out of my 308, dropped a bull in his tracks at 200yds. Also laid over a 200lb sow at 250yds, she ran about 20 yds. Great blood trail. Tikka T3 loves them, tight groups.


Similar experience, same ammo with my 270 & 130 grain...bull was doubled lunged & went 60 yards
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:28 PM   #24
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The Accubond Long Range doesn't have the reputation of the Accubond. Quite the opposite. Most of the responses address the Accubond and not the Long Range version. I have no experience with the Hornady Precision Hunter. Based on the reputation of these two bullets, I'd go to the original Accubond or look at the TSX or TTSX, both of which are wonderful.



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You and I agree and making the same point. The OP asked about LRAB while most of the responses are focused on the tried and true Accubond.

From my experience the Longrange are too fragile for dependable penetration on shorter range shots (inside 250)
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Old 06-15-2018, 07:02 AM   #25
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Elk are where you find them. Sometimes it's 300 yards, sometimes it's 10 yards. Why limit your effective bullet to a design made for strictly long range? I really believe a hunting round made to perform strictly at long range is irresponsible and unethical. We (humans) can sometimes micro-manage the heck out of something that's so simple. Elk have very large vitals. There are tons of bullets that perform well at "hunting distances" so why limit yourself to a design that reduces your "effective" range (In the case of long-range bullets, you are reducing your effective range to greater than 200 yards)
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Old 06-15-2018, 07:41 AM   #26
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Put a good shot on the animal and both bullets will drop it.
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Old 06-15-2018, 07:55 AM   #27
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In my experience with any brand that makes a jacketed bullet with a polymer tip, they are less accurate, lower performing in about every category than any other jacketed type. BUT they will still kill just as well as any other bullet.

I would go with whatever you're most confident in, and be ready for a follow up shot because Elk are big animals and at times can soak up some lead.
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