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Old 04-06-2018, 11:36 AM   #51
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Plot experts, what do you think is best for a future plot and the soil:

1. spraying and killing my winter plot and grain drilling into it

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2. disking under the winter plot under and grain drilling into that.
Whats in your winter plot?
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Whats in your winter plot?
Wheat, Austrian Peas, Oats, and I think Elbon rye

I shredded it down once a few weeks ago. Wheat oats and peas is mostly what it is
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If your planter can cut thru it might try spraying then drilling
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Old 04-06-2018, 01:10 PM   #54
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If your planter can cut thru it might try spraying then drilling
If it will work, there would be way less weed problems theoretically. If grain drills were $500 I'd buy one. I wish I had been born rich instead of so damm good looking...
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If it will work, there would be way less weed problems theoretically. If grain drills were $500 I'd buy one. I wish I had been born rich instead of so damm good looking...
Yes I think the grain drill will work fine. I shredded the plot and some of it died. Ideally I like the idea of building up organic matter.

I think I will spray the plot and grain drill.

And on my dove plot I will disk it up.

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I’m glad I held off on planting. We had snow this morning and mid 20s for lows this weekend. Would have been for naught.
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Dang. You are well ahead of us. Where is Wilson county?
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Dang. You are well ahead of us. Where is Wilson county?
Rusty, he's S of San Antonio. Too wet to plow on most of my plots. I poured out 3" this morning at Mt. Enterprise and that was all from last night. It's 46* here now, and I probably won't even start spraying gly for another couple weeks.

I need to hit two clover plots with Cleth but both are too wet for a tractor. I could have sprayed with my Ranger last week but I thought I had other things I'd rather do

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Old 04-07-2018, 03:47 PM   #61
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Dang. You are well ahead of us. Where is Wilson county?
About 35 miles southeast of San Antone. We been real dry around here and finally got a few showers lately. A few weeks ago they was dewberries blooming everwhere.
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Rusty, he's S of San Antonio. Too wet to plow on most of my plots. I poured out 3" this morning at Mt. Enterprise and that was all from last night. It's 46* here now, and I probably won't even start spraying gly for another couple weeks.

I need to hit two clover plots with Cleth but both are too wet for a tractor. I could have sprayed with my Ranger last week but I thought I had other things I'd rather do
Yes sir its cold here too. I was shooting my bow fer a while but my dang hands got too cold.

I noticed some nut grass sprouting in one of my plots yesterday. I aint real sure how to attack it yet. Thought about spot spraying it with Image, I need to talk with the ag co-op first.
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Old 04-07-2018, 04:07 PM   #63
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Iím glad I held off on planting. We had snow this morning and mid 20s for lows this weekend. Would have been for naught.
No doubt...same reason I'm still waiting. Hoping end of April to get something in the ground
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Yes sir its cold here too. I was shooting my bow fer a while but my dang hands got too cold.

I noticed some nut grass sprouting in one of my plots yesterday. I aint real sure how to attack it yet. Thought about spot spraying it with Image, I need to talk with the ag co-op first.
Nutsedge ? Basagran I think is what I used in one of my clover plots. Had to hit it twice but it died. I was trying to get everything I could out of the plot, but last fall I replanted with a different blend and just burned it all with gly. So far, no nutsedge and my clover is looking pretty good.
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Nutsedge ? Basagran I think is what I used in one of my clover plots. Had to hit it twice but it died. I was trying to get everything I could out of the plot, but last fall I replanted with a different blend and just burned it all with gly. So far, no nutsedge and my clover is looking pretty good.
Yes we call it Nut grass, but its what hogs destroy the ground for around here. Johnson grass, wild onion and nutsedge is a hogs prime interest here. I have heard of Basagran before, but is a pre emergent? I killed off a lot of nut grass with gly, but I had to figure out to let the nut grass get mature then spray with gly.
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Yes we call it Nut grass, but its what hogs destroy the ground for around here. Johnson grass, wild onion and nutsedge is a hogs prime interest here. I have heard of Basagran before, but is a pre emergent? I killed off a lot of nut grass with gly, but I had to figure out to let the nut grass get mature then spray with gly.
It's not a preemergent as far as I know. I killed it when it was mature, but I only had a small area of it on one end of a lane of clover. Probably about 40'x40' of pretty thick nutsedge and a little scattered throughout. The really thick stuff was hard to kill and it took awhile, but it did die. Now whether it would have come back or not I don't know because the clover was about four years old and I decided to terminate it and replant with a clover blend fron Grandpa Ray's Outdoors. I can tell you that Basagran is expensive, but if you need it.......

I got mine from Keystone Pest Solutions. Clethodim would yellow it a little but it would bounce back. I didn't even know what it was until I described it on the Deer Builder forum on Bowsite and someone there told me what to use. I used a tank sprayer that goes in my Ranger, which is what I use for small spots. It has a boomless spray head as well as a wand. Works pretty well for plots in the woods too. Good luck getting rid of that crap Radar, it's tough and it just gets worse !
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I plan on spraying my plots this week and maybe plant in next 7-14 days. Should I mow over the dead grass after I grain drill?

On my dove plot, I am going to try and disk the ground so its bare
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Plot experts, what do you think is best for a future plot and the soil:

1. spraying and killing my winter plot and grain drilling into it

or

2. disking under the winter plot under and grain drilling into that.
Option #1
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:37 PM   #70
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I plan on spraying my plots this week and maybe plant in next 7-14 days. Should I mow over the dead grass after I grain drill?

On my dove plot, I am going to try and disk the ground so its bare
Is you fertilizing? Do you have fertilizer boxes on your drill?
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Is you fertilizing? Do you have fertilizer boxes on your drill?
Yes I plan on just doing 6 bags of Triple 13 per acre.

I sprayed my 2 spots yesterday. They are about an acre each. Hopefully I get good kill. If I don't I will spray again and then grain drill.

My 2.5 acre dove plot I will disk it up to dirt and then drill it in.

I do not have fertilizer boxes on the drill I rent, but it does have small grain boxes
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I need to find a better way to spray my 1-1.25 acre plots. I have a 40 gallon sprayer from TSC, but the hand nozzle is a PIA. I bought some cheap boomless nozzle sprayer that hooks up to my tailgate of my ranger, but its not very good.
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Got IC Peas popping up really well. Will get a pic in two weeks.
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Yes I plan on just doing 6 bags of Triple 13 per acre.



I sprayed my 2 spots yesterday. They are about an acre each. Hopefully I get good kill. If I don't I will spray again and then grain drill.



My 2.5 acre dove plot I will disk it up to dirt and then drill it in.



I do not have fertilizer boxes on the drill I rent, but it does have small grain boxes


I donít have a no till drill and broadcast fertilizer after I spray gly. I was told many years ago to work the fertilizer in to the dirt before planting. This will create a better seed bed than leaving the fertilizer on top of the ground.

I canít tell you one way or the other about drilling seed with the fertilizer above the ground or how long it takes for fertilizer to melt into the dirt to the seedlings. You might need to set the gangs straight on your disc and bust the top crust of dirt before you drill.
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Ordered 1200 lbs of fertilizer to put out Saturday.
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I donít have a no till drill and broadcast fertilizer after I spray gly. I was told many years ago to work the fertilizer in to the dirt before planting. This will create a better seed bed than leaving the fertilizer on top of the ground.

I canít tell you one way or the other about drilling seed with the fertilizer above the ground or how long it takes for fertilizer to melt into the dirt to the seedlings. You might need to set the gangs straight on your disc and bust the top crust of dirt before you drill.
Thank you for the input!!!

How do you spray your plots? I gotta find a better way to spray 1-2 acres.

I may put fertilizer into the drill with the seed? never done it, would that work?
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Thank you for the input!!!

How do you spray your plots? I gotta find a better way to spray 1-2 acres.

I may put fertilizer into the drill with the seed? never done it, would that work?
I have a 60 gallon boomless PTO driven sprayer, but used a 30 gallon 12v boomless sprayer for years. I mounted it on my Mule and it worked fine. Plus it has a gun that I use to spray inside my feeder pens.

Fertilizer is corrosive and usually has clumps in it, I guess you could try to blend in seed and fertilizer on a small run and see what happens. The seed you are using and the fertilizer pellets are different sizes so I cant say.If it works you might want wash out the drill when your done, cause the next feller that uses is gonna be mad.
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I have a 60 gallon boomless PTO driven sprayer, but used a 30 gallon 12v boomless sprayer for years. I mounted it on my Mule and it worked fine. Plus it has a gun that I use to spray inside my feeder pens.

Fertilizer is corrosive and usually has clumps in it, I guess you could try to blend in seed and fertilizer on a small run and see what happens. The seed you are using and the fertilizer pellets are different sizes so I cant say.If it works you might want wash out the drill when your done, cause the next feller that uses is gonna be mad.
What brand sprayer or model? Can you post pics please?
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What brand sprayer or model? Can you post pics please?
http://www.fimcoindustries.com/LG-60-3PT.html

Mine is the boomless one. I drain the pump when done and spray it with a rust preventive. Works good and I dont have to worry about limbs hooking a boom, I also add spray dye to herbicide and I can see my path purty good.

I had a cheaper 40 gallon 3 pt sprayer and it made it a year and the tank split, I took it back to TSC and swapped it in for the one I have now.
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Mine is the boomless one. I drain the pump when done and spray it with a rust preventive. Works good and I dont have to worry about limbs hooking a boom, I also add spray dye to herbicide and I can see my path purty good.

I had a cheaper 40 gallon 3 pt sprayer and it made it a year and the tank split, I took it back to TSC and swapped it in for the one I have now.
Talk to me more about the dye please. I need this bad, hate guessing where I sprayed and didn't.

I need to upgrade to a boomless like this one. Thank you
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Talk to me more about the dye please. I need this bad, hate guessing where I sprayed and didn't.

I need to upgrade to a boomless like this one. Thank you
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...t?cm_vc=-10005

Wear you some gloves when you put this in the tank. I got it all over me the first time I used it and I looked like a smurf.
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Wear you some gloves when you put this in the tank. I got it all over me the first time I used it and I looked like a smurf.
Lol ok. Reviews look to be poor on it, but I will take your word

On the boomless nozzle, do you get a full 30 feet like mentioned on the website? Also is it strong enough and not a light mist?
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Lol ok. Reviews look to be poor on it, but I will take your word

On the boomless nozzle, do you get a full 30 feet like mentioned on the website? Also is it strong enough and not a light mist?
I answer this un and we better get back on topic, somebody will holler at us and call us names.

The sprayer will do 30 ft but if you got a wind a blowing it wonít be a constant spray. I got mine set up for 20ft because I set it lower to the ground (18 inches). This gives a good curtain of spray and it donít drift much in the wind. I also prefer to spray early in the morning before the wind kicks up and when there is still a little dew on the ground.
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I really need to get out and plow. Was too muddy for a while amd haven't had time last couple weeks. My get out saturday and try to get some plowing and seed spread. Gonna have to be a rush job.
Thinking of just grabbing a few bags of wild bird seed and spreading. Hopefully the feed store still has some spring mixes available.
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I really need to get out and plow. Was too muddy for a while amd haven't had time last couple weeks. My get out saturday and try to get some plowing and seed spread. Gonna have to be a rush job.
Thinking of just grabbing a few bags of wild bird seed and spreading. Hopefully the feed store still has some spring mixes available.
I would not plant anything with corn in it, ever hog in the county will be sitting in your fields pooping yellar.
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Got a lot of work done this weekend. Got the spring Dove/deer plot seeded and fertilized. Work a few cows. Giving Riley the hotshot was bad idea!!! But dad can still out run her.

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Got my dove spot disked this weekend. Sprayed my 2 deer plots last week and will go look today and possibly spray them again for any spots that did not die because of thick vegetation.

Then will shred the dead winter plot and grain drill over it. Dove plot I will drill into the disked soil.
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Would the general consensus be to burn this plot down first with Gly, then disk, then fertilize and seed, then finish with drag? (or I could fertilize prior to disk and work it in with disk)

Or, skip Gly and go strait to disk under the green growth (last season Fall plot) and do the before mentioned order of steps?

Gonna try to plant this weekend so I could possibly get out tomorrow to spray and have 3-4 days to kill before planting beans/peas.
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Would the general consensus be to burn this plot down first with Gly, then disk, then fertilize and seed, then finish with drag? (or I could fertilize prior to disk and work it in with disk)

Or, skip Gly and go strait to disk under the green growth (last season Fall plot) and do the before mentioned order of steps?

Gonna try to plant this weekend so I could possibly get out tomorrow to spray and have 3-4 days to kill before planting beans/peas.
I would spray Gly and then go back and sling your fertilizer on the same day, come back 5 days later and disc, sling seed and cover with a drag.
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Skip the gly if your gonna disc.
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I agree. We don't spray gly. Your winter/fall crops are gonna die anyways. When you disc you uproot the exsiting plants , which will kill them. Disc before they seed out
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Good deal. I wanted to just turn under the current plot and plant without burning down. I’ll do that and see if there’s competition after seed starts to come up.
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To me spraying gly and disking is not necessary. Disking will bring new weed seed.

The point of spraying GLY usually is so you don't need to disk. Leave the ground undisturbed. Most people spray who use a drill to plant
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:49 PM   #98
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Got this done Friday and the rain came good today! Crossing fingers no more cold fronts now...
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Old 04-22-2018, 07:22 PM   #99
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I spray gly and disc, I dont have a no till drill so everything is done thru a broadcaster. Without Gly the competition would out run your seed, but this is in Wilson county. Things may vary in another area.
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Old 04-22-2018, 10:07 PM   #100
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Looks awesome Radar. I have some Arrest Max herbicide to knock back weeds once they are actively growing and the plot starts to emerge.
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