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Old 03-19-2018, 03:28 PM   #201
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Question for the gardeners here that put up borders. Keep in mind.. I am a gal and need the easy button on saws, chopping, cutting, etc. I have a bed that is 12 x 12. I would like a border that will last a loooooooong time... Was considering crossties only to find out they are not 12 ft long. I'd like something I don't have to trim down to fit that dimension... Any ideas on the easy side?
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:39 PM   #202
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I built my wife's bed border out of treated 2X10's, but if you don't want that high, you could use 2X8 or 2X6... I used those 90 degree storm plates and galvanized screws. It's been up almost 6 years and still going strong... You can get standard 2X_ lumber standard in 12 footers... Lowe's or HD may not have 'em but a real lumber yard will have 'em... McCoy's or Sutherlands, etc. They're heavy, but not as heavy as cross ties!!
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:46 PM   #203
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I made GREAT progress today!! Got the rows plowed. Wife will start planting tomorrow! We might just make this happen!

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Old 03-19-2018, 08:58 PM   #204
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Wow! Looks great
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:07 PM   #205
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Birds wore me out last year on the tomatoes. Built a pvc loop cover today that is retractable and covered with deer netting.


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Old 03-19-2018, 09:19 PM   #206
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the best advice i can offer is to sell your tiller! A few years ago we tried the “back to eden” gardening method because our little garden just would not produce the results we were looking for. Without a doubt it was the best thing i have ever tried.

I started with a 14x20 garden bringing in just a little over 1 ton of organic compost spreading it to @ 5-6” thick. I then brought in right at a ton of organic mulch spreading it over the compost. I could type and go into detail but i will let the video that turned me onto it speak for me. The best part, i can travel weeks on end and still have a lush garden!

http://youtu.be/ybb8kkcywfi

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i haven't looked at this thread in a while and was pleased to find this reference to the 'back to eden' approach. I've been loosely following the principles for a few years mostly using thick layers of alfalfa hay over compost and continuing the lasagna layering every year. But this year i'm going all in. I've ordered 80 cubic yards of wood chips not only for my existing garden but to build a couple new beds as well. I love watching the videos by paul gautschi and have learned a lot.

Here is a long view of my garden. 8 rows 40'x 4 ' . Just starting the spring planting though keep it going year round. All organic and all buy completely weed free. Rarely water.




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Old 03-19-2018, 09:27 PM   #207
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Here is a bit better picture a little closer. As of now growing in the garden:
red, white and yellow onions, red, yellow, purple and orange bell peppers, tomatoes, 3 generations of spinach, rutabagas, green onions, tabasco pepper, carrots, collards, red mustards, broccoli, cauliflower, napa cabbage, regular cabbage, red cabbage, 4 kinds of kale, endive, beets, radishes, sugar snaps and 3 kinds of garlic. And of course one bed dedicated just to asparagus which we've just started picking.

Basically a maintenance free garden that keeps getting better.

And we are just getting started. Love this time of year!
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:37 AM   #208
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Man, I'm jealous of yalls gardens! I'm doing my first ever garden this year, just now got everything planted.

Elgato, what is the cattle panel dome for?
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Man, I'm jealous of yalls gardens! I'm doing my first ever garden this year, just now got everything planted.

Elgato, what is the cattle panel dome for?
I plant cherry tomatoes on each side. Yellow on one side red on the other. They will literally meet at the top . I use standard cattle panels tied to T post for the rest of the tomatoes.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:21 PM   #210
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Looking good guys. Like a lot of you I fell behind this spring. Cu's and Zuch's barely starting to sprout. Still need to get my beans and corn in the ground. Earlier this year we started harvesting our cauliflower, grew a few different varieties.

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We pulled our last broccoli Dec. 31, they came in pretty early. Carrots should be ready in the next few weeks. We liked them so much last year that we planted 3 times in 3 week intervals.

We had a good snow pea harvest, love them. They are pretty much done, letting the last few get bid on the vine to dry up to get some seed.

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Really excited over my artichoke, 1 of 3 that made it the year and a half its taken to flower.

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For all the first timers, good luck and don't get discourage. Every season is a learning experience, I can't get enough, lol.
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Love all that color and variety. Do you buy the seeds for these different varieties out of seed magazines and if so, which one?
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:25 PM   #212
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I am just this weekend putting all my stuff in. Only thing planted is onions and potatoes. I live in Central Texas area. I was too worried about a freeze.
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Beautiful!
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Love all that color and variety. Do you buy the seeds for these different varieties out of seed magazines and if so, which one?
I get the majority of my seed from Johnny’s but also use Baker Creek. For herbs and brassica’s I like to buy little plants. Typically buy from Rainbow gardens in San Antonio, don’t care too much for the Bonnie stuff you find at Lowe’s and Walmart but still buy them from time to time. I’m expirementig with broccoli and cauliflower right now trying to harvest seed so I might try that in the fall.
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I finally got mine tilled. Probably too late to plant most vegetables.

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Old 03-21-2018, 09:59 PM   #216
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Just got tomatoes cucumbers and Cayanan’s planted.



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Picked up a new toy today and got the first pass done on the garden.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:42 PM   #218
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Got mine rowed up this evening. I'll plant it tomorrow. Between this rain and work I didn't think I'd ever see it.

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Anyone here grow tomatillos?
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Garden is growing good.
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I have...on accident. They were volunteers that came up out of my compost.
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I made GREAT progress today!! Got the rows plowed. Wife will start planting tomorrow! We might just make this happen!



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Old 03-26-2018, 09:11 AM   #223
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We tried last spring. Didn’t produce for us


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Old 03-26-2018, 09:15 AM   #224
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My bride planted 4 rows of PH Peas and 2 rows of Okra. Sunday after church we stopped at a local nursery and bought a bunch of other plants such as Burpless Cukes ( they did really well last year), bell peppers, jalapenos, sweet banana peppers, 2 or 3 different varieties of 'maters, crook neck squash, and zucchini... She's gonna get them planted this week... Hope all this stuff has time to make before the heat takes over...
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Well i went back to Eden. Seems to be holding moisture better. Hopfully this does what its supposed to do and break down or im going to have to clean it all out in the fall.

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It's a garden bedder. I have one from Everything Attatchments.

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https://www.everythingattachments.co...gb50deluxe.htm

www.everythingattachments.com It is a bedder. Being a John Deere freak, I had to paint that ugly sucker John Deere Green so it would fit my tractor.

I watched his videos and got it all adjusted last season. This year I just raised the little center row plow that makes the groove for planting up out of the way. Wife wanted the rows as high as possible so maybe her stuff wouldn't drown in case the rain continues... It took some trial and error to get it adjusted just right, but once done, it is very easy to use. I have a cultivator that I've used for making rows too, but this thing is SO much easier. It works like a champ.

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www.everythingattachments.com It is a bedder. Being a John Deere freak, I had to paint that ugly sucker John Deere Green so it would fit my tractor.

I watched his videos and got it all adjusted last season. This year I just raised the little center row plow that makes the groove for planting up out of the way. Wife wanted the rows as high as possible so maybe her stuff wouldn't drown in case the rain continues... It took some trial and error to get it adjusted just right, but once done, it is very easy to use. I have a cultivator that I've used for making rows too, but this thing is SO much easier. It works like a champ.

Dang "r'nman" U quikk!!


They are very well worth the money for sure.
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Old 03-26-2018, 09:43 AM   #229
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I did raised beds this year. Just can't get up and down like I used to plus with all of the stray cats my ground based garden was just becoming a community litter box lol.
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Trying for the first time this year.
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Well after adding some compost from our bin a couple weeks ago I now have some tomatoes and what I’m assuming are cantaloupe growing. 3 of my broccoli are still going strong, one of them flowered and went to seed without ever producing but that’s okay I’ll take it seeding the area over nothing. Onions have been small but strong. Still trying to decide what else to put in.

Reported the wife’s lemon tree to a much bigger container so hopefully we’ll get some good growth
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Got the raised beds built last week. Planning on getting soil tonight to fill. Next is the planting I plan on the basics tomatoes, peppers from plants. As for squash, zucchini, cucumbers, okra, green beans is it better to do plants or from seed?
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Well, I intended to get the seedlings today, but things got in the way. Hopefully the rain holds off tomorrow and I can get them in the ground. The pollinator bed is coming up nicely.... the blooming flowers are all perineal, and the seedlings are Texas/Oklahoma, and Colorado wildflowers.


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Better cover them gardens up if you can. Bad 3 days coming!
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I see a lot of y'all covering your gardens with hay. What is the overall consensus on this school of thought? I've heard good and bad. What type of hay do y'all use?

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I see a lot of y'all covering your gardens with hay. What is the overall consensus on this school of thought? I've heard good and bad. What type of hay do y'all use?

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Any kind of mulch will be a benefit. Weed suppression, moisture retention, and soil temp reducing. I started with 2” of compost, and will top dress with mulched leafmold once plants are big enough.


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I understand the concept of mulch but I was specifically asking about the Hay.

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Old 03-26-2018, 08:34 PM   #238
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I understand the concept of mulch but I was specifically asking about the Hay.

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My experience with using regular old hay (coastal hay) is that it is full of "hayseeds"... You'll be fighting grass in the garden or anywhere you use hay for "mulch". Straw will work, but still will have some seeding from its use.
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My experience with using regular old hay (coastal hay) is that it is full of "hayseeds"... You'll be fighting grass in the garden or anywhere you use hay for "mulch". Straw will work, but still will have some seeding from its use.
Thanks Slick, thats the bad part that I've heard about. Just wondering if anyone has had success?

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I got a few things going..toms..cucumber..herbs..melons. .peppers...get pics later...

and for yall in east Texas pine straw is great mulch in the garden. ..hell they sell it for $6 a couple cubic ft here in Austin if you can find it

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I got my Dutch bucket hydro system set up today... year 2 and I'm anxious to see the results! I'll never grow tomatoes, or peppers in soil again!
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Gonna be moving next month. I'm hoping it won't be too late to till and plant. Onions and taters are out the picture this year I believe.
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I see a lot of y'all covering your gardens with hay. What is the overall consensus on this school of thought? I've heard good and bad. What type of hay do y'all use?

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Well i was going to use wood chips and probably still will go that route in the future. My brother has a barn full of spoiled hay so i went with it as a starter. Ill report back if i have an abundance or weeds from seeds in the hay. Slick could be right and i just shot myself in the foot.

Youtube "hay in the garden". Tons of vidoes on it. And if you havent watched the back to Eden video, i highly recommend that. The way he references gardening to scripture is pretty neat.

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My experience with using regular old hay (coastal hay) is that it is full of "hayseeds"... You'll be fighting grass in the garden or anywhere you use hay for "mulch". Straw will work, but still will have some seeding from its use.


Same here. Why we use wood mulch. Same concept but no seeds and by next spring it’s well composted into the garden soil.


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My experience with using regular old hay (coastal hay) is that it is full of "hayseeds"... You'll be fighting grass in the garden or anywhere you use hay for "mulch". Straw will work, but still will have some seeding from its use.
X2 if you can find some really clean straw hay it works great, regular old hay and your bringing in all kinds of seeds. Been there done that. Still pulling weeds brought in from a round bale I put in the garden. Atwoods has straw square bales pretty cheep and they're really clean.
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Old 03-27-2018, 08:58 AM   #247
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If your in blackland, or don't have well drained soil, you can have issues with water retention, too, if your whole garden is covered in hay/mulch. Especially in the early season. When the temps heat up, not so much a problem.
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I've been using alfalfa hay as mulch last couple years. My niece raises race horses and get weed free organic alfalfa. I like it a lot. That said I have ordered my first 40 yard load of wood chips and will be switching to that. Gonna make an edible yard. { more so than it already is }

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I am trying a container pepper grow. I have Jalapenos, cowhorns, habenaros, serranos, tabascos, sweet peppers, green peppers, banana peppers, ghosts and reapers. All are outside now besides the reapers. I just wanted to see what grows best but am thinking my pots are too small. Most are in 2-3 gallon pots and a few in 5 gallon. I have pruned all except for the reapers and seeing new growth. Im also worried that things will get bad in middle and late summer due to heat. Everyones gardens look great, Im almost embarrassed. My grow is completely experimental and im expecting some failures. Any container pepper growers here I can communicate with? Will post pics soon, Thanks y'all
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I am trying a container pepper grow. I have Jalapenos, cowhorns, habenaros, serranos, tabascos, sweet peppers, green peppers, banana peppers, ghosts and reapers. All are outside now besides the reapers. I just wanted to see what grows best but am thinking my pots are too small. Most are in 2-3 gallon pots and a few in 5 gallon. I have pruned all except for the reapers and seeing new growth. Im also worried that things will get bad in middle and late summer due to heat. Everyones gardens look great, Im almost embarrassed. My grow is completely experimental and im expecting some failures. Any container pepper growers here I can communicate with? Will post pics soon, Thanks y'all
I grow my bells and japs in pots most of the time. 2-3 gallons will be pretty small for them, especially the bells. Mine do well in 5-10 gallon containers. Good luck!!
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