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Old 01-04-2018, 03:58 PM   #101
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What is ratchet flute?
Here is an APR ratchet flute.

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Old 01-04-2018, 04:06 PM   #102
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:30 PM   #103
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Couple questions....
I have a Harvester can on the way......Will this can work on 7mm-08, 25-06 and 30-06....
Out of the above which would be a good choice for a custom build....I know 30-06 has the biggest variance on choices of factory ammo as far as weights...
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:47 PM   #104
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Yes, it will work with all three.

Personally I like the 7mm-08 between those choices for Texas game.
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Barrel length suggestion for 28 Nos?
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:56 PM   #106
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Iím thinking of either a 24Ē or 26Ē with a 1:8.5 twist rate. Iíll probably go with the 24Ē since Iíll be running a brake and sometimes suppressor.


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Old 01-04-2018, 05:56 PM   #107
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Yes, it will work with all three.

Personally I like the 7mm-08 between those choices for Texas game.
I personally like the 25-06 out of those for Texas game.
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Iím thinking of either a 24Ē or 26Ē with a 1:8.5 twist rate. Iíll probably go with the 24Ē since Iíll be running a brake and sometimes suppressor.


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To realize full potential of that round you will need 26"+

You just have to figure out a balance between performance and maneuverability.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:29 PM   #110
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So have you worked out any kinks in your 7mm APR?

This one has me interested still.
It's rocking along. Really happy with the round itself, but not thrilled about the current barrel on it. It's a fouling SOB. I've also got the serial# right behind it on another rifle and it is flawless. Go figure. The first barrel was probably the best I've ever owned, but it's long gone now after all of the initial playing around and testing. It did win a small one mile match while it was still kicking. Definitely a lot of work to get 28 Nos performance. I'm averaging 4-6 SD FINALLY and the brass is lasting forever. It's been an adventure
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For you guys thinking about the 260 that don't hand load, I'm about to sound like a broken record when I say consider the 6.5CM. I know, I know.....everybody is hating on it because its the flavor of the month and is being pushed EVERYWHERE. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sick of hearing about it too. But facts are facts, and it backs up its promise of performance in its intended place. It offers the SAME level of performance as the 260 in factory ammo, with the benefits of fitting in your mag box, large and available ammo selection that is continuing to grow, which most of the time is cheaper and you'll be hard pressed to find any of it that doesn't shoot lights out.
Would the 6.5 CM be enough gun for elk, mule deer and/or big horn sheep?? What kind of weight could be expected for these rifles??
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Sorry for not being clear on the payment part, was trying to get all the info out there and missed that crucial detail. We would need 50% at time of order and the balance on completion. Also, given our component choices Lefties are not an option on this one. Left handed actions are in the works, so maybe next time.
no lefties, thanks for saving me money. could have been expensive.
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Would the 6.5 CM be enough gun for elk, mule deer and/or big horn sheep?? What kind of weight could be expected for these rifles??
It's plenty for all 3, if you don't try to push it beyond its limits. These rifles are going to be right at 8 lbs. Some a little over, and some a little under depending on options chosen by the customer. They will have enough weight that most folks can shoot them well, but on the heavier side for a dedicated mountain rifle.
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I'll ask cause I know theres a few guys who value your opinion on the matter......


what caliber for both the hand roller and the factory ammo buyer?
If shooting exotics, white tail, antelope, and thin skinned medium size game animals in NA.... hard to beat the 25-06, 260, 7-08, or 7mag if you want a magnum
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Happy to see the 7-08 mentioned this many times. I think it gets overlooked a lot these days with all the new stuff. Its the real workhorse of the 308 variants, and easy to get along with.
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If shooting exotics, white tail, antelope, and thin skinned medium size game animals in NA.... hard to beat the 25-06, 260, 7-08, or 7mag if you want a magnum
Thanks!

I have a 25.06 and a 7x57 that when I do rifle hunt get swapped around. I have no ties to the 06 really and could sacrifice it to have another built.

But this all comes about just days after my dad and I talk about the 260. Neither of us have owned one

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Barrel length suggestion for 28 Nos?
Chew, I know Nosler rifles are 26" for the 28Nosler. I would think they would know how long it should be. As far as twist, the 1:9 will handle up to 180gr. The new 195gr is calling for 1:8 twist. I would either go with a 1:9 twist and stay 180 or less, or go with a full 1:8 twist for heavier bullets. I don't see me needing more than 180gr for the 28.

In case you can't tell, I'm also wanting a 28nos.
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:09 PM   #118
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Am I an idiot for considering a 300 blk??
I love hunting with it, and would love a bolt action that shoots lights out.

Otherwise it would be 6.5CM, 7-08, or maybe a 6.5 Grendel would probably be more practical. Never had a custom rifle and only recently tinkered w long range, but only in gas guns so far.


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Old 01-04-2018, 07:14 PM   #119
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Thanks!

I have a 25.06 and a 7x57 that when I do rifle hunt get swapped around. I have no ties to the 06 really and could sacrifice it to have another built.

But this all comes about just days after my dad and I talk about the 260. Neither of us have owned one

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260 gets my vote also


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Am I an idiot for considering a 300 blk??
I love hunting with it, and would love a bolt action that shoots lights out.

Otherwise it would be 6.5CM, 7-08, or maybe a 6.5 Grendel would probably be more practical. Never had a custom rifle and only recently tinkered w long range, but only in gas guns so far.


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Considering you mentioned 300blk and long range in the same post, then yes, you could be.
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Am I an idiot for considering a 300 blk??
I love hunting with it, and would love a bolt action that shoots lights out.

Otherwise it would be 6.5CM, 7-08, or maybe a 6.5 Grendel would probably be more practical. Never had a custom rifle and only recently tinkered w long range, but only in gas guns so far.


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I don't see the need for a custom build in a rifle that's not really designed to shoot (and kill something )past 100 yards.

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Considering you mentioned 300blk and long range in the same post, then yes, you could be.

Good point... LOL
Really wasnít meaning the 300blk for long range


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Kind of what I was thinking, thereís really only one round I hunt with, sonic it doesnít shoot that load well, Iíd be SOL
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What length barrel for a mountain rifle in 280AI? 24" 22" and how much velocity would a 7mm-08 be behind in each barrel length? I figure roughly 300fps, but could be way off.
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whoever takes advantage of this group buy is gonna get a very nice rifle.

My advice, sell 2-3 factory rifles and invest in 1 custom as you won't be sorry
This is what i was afraid of

I have
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  • .243
  • 6mm Creed (on way in RAP)
  • 6.5 Grendel AR
  • .308 Rem 700 R5 Milspec semi custom
  • .300 WSM Rem 700 Semi Custom from Hill Co. Rifles

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What length barrel for a mountain rifle in 280AI? 24" 22" and how much velocity would a 7mm-08 be behind in each barrel length? I figure roughly 300fps, but could be way off.


I have a 280AI with 24" barrel, I had my oldest sons APR chambered in 280AI and choose 25" as a comprise between maneuverability and optimum performance. We like it so much that I have another APR on order in 280AI with 25" barrel.

We also have 7-08 and love it but it's in a different league than the AI.
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This is what i was afraid of

I have
  • .223/5.56 AR
  • .243
  • 6mm Creed (on way in RAP)
  • 6.5 Grendel AR
  • .308 Rem 700 R5 Milspec semi custom
  • .300 WSM Rem 700 Semi Custom from Hill Co. Rifles

What 2 would you can.... and what would you add in APR?
I would can the Grendel and the 308

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This is what i was afraid of

I have
  • .223/5.56 AR
  • .243
  • 6mm Creed (on way in RAP)
  • 6.5 Grendel AR
  • .308 Rem 700 R5 Milspec semi custom
  • .300 WSM Rem 700 Semi Custom from Hill Co. Rifles

What 2 would you can.... and what would you add in APR?


Can the Grendel and 308 and add 280 or 280AI if you load
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:34 PM   #128
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I have a 280AI with 24" barrel, I had my oldest sons APR chambered in 280AI and choose 25" as a comprise between maneuverability and optimum performance. We like it so much that I have another APR on order in 280AI with 25" barrel.

We also have 7-08 and love it but it's in a different league than the AI.
Elaborate on your last comment as i am considering both.
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does the apr bdl bottom metal have a detachable magazine?
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Am I an idiot for really wanting a 26 Nosler if I don’t reload?
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does the apr bdl bottom metal have a detachable magazine?
JT, I'm not sure, but shoot they fine folks at APR a PM and they'll respond fairly promptly.
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I just had a 28 Nosler built. I went with a 24 inch barrel then added a break. I shoot 175 accubonds I'm getting 3048 Muzzle velocity and 3590 Muzzle energy. Also went with 1:8.25 twist

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This is what i was afraid of

I have
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  • .243
  • 6mm Creed (on way in RAP)
  • 6.5 Grendel AR
  • .308 Rem 700 R5 Milspec semi custom
  • .300 WSM Rem 700 Semi Custom from Hill Co. Rifles

What 2 would you can.... and what would you add in APR?
Uh don't sell any of those and just buy the APR Duhhhhhh


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Elaborate on your last comment as i am considering both.


Between case capacity and barrel length there is over 300 fps between the 2. To me the 7-08 is a handy carry / truck gun good to 300 yards or so on deer while the 280AI.

Think about popular factory offerings in 7mm: 7-08, 280, 7 mag & 7 RUM. The 280AI is very nearly equal to 7 mag so you have effectively jumped from the slowest 7mm to the 2nd fastest.
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Uuuggghhhhh why why why!!!

I only have three guns I’d sell for this. One is my pistol, and the other two are my only bolt action rifles which are Tikkas that shoot lights out. I just don’t know if I can talk myself into selling those for ONE.
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I have
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  • 6.5 Grendel AR
  • .308 Rem 700 R5 Milspec semi custom
  • .300 WSM Rem 700 Semi Custom from Hill Co. Rifles

What 2 would you can.... and what would you add in APR?
Both 6mm's and replace with another one
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does the apr bdl bottom metal have a detachable magazine?


No, it is a hinged floor plate just like a Remington BDL but has APR engraved on it
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Wow!!! Just take my money please.
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Uuuggghhhhh why why why!!!

I only have three guns Iíd sell for this. One is my pistol, and the other two are my only bolt action rifles which are Tikkas that shoot lights out. I just donít know if I can talk myself into selling those for ONE.
Don't sell and get you another one to add to the stable that shoots lights out. After all thats what they make credit for!
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Don't sell and get you another one to add to the stable that shoots lights out. After all thats what they make credit for!
Oh lawd. I could sling some credit at it. Just tired of my bonus paying that credit off lol
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I hear ya. just did the same thing. come join the rifle rich but money po club!
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I now have some homework to do.

But, I like the way you think, sir.
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I thought I had gotten past this custom rifle thang.But I keep coming back to this.I have a safe full of rifles that shoot better than I do,but all are factory guns.All my bows are custom made longbows and recurves,some costing as much as these rifles do.

264 win mag or 280AI what yall think.I do not reload at this time.I hunt W/T and exotics,300 yards or less.

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Robert
Didn't see straight flute as a option?
Could I get that ..

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Can the Grendel and 308 and add 280 or 280AI if you load
my understanding is you can shoot 280 ammo out of the 280ai. Are there any cons for doing this? Why not build the ai so you have the option down the road if you want to start reloading?
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I thought I had gotten past this custom rifle thang.But I keep coming back to this.I have a safe full of rifles that shoot better than I do,but all are factory guns.All my bows are custom made longbows and recurves,some costing as much as these rifles do.



264 win mag or 280AI what yall think.I do not reload at this time.I hunt W/T and exotics,300 yards or less.


.264..264..264..


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I hear ya. just did the same thing. come join the rifle rich but money po club!
Not to mention I just loaded up on Lapua brass for both my guns!

Maybe Iíll just wait and see when they do it again. Or someone will impulse buy one of these deals and I can get it cheaper in 6 months
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:30 PM   #149
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my understanding is you can shoot 280 ammo out of the 280ai. Are there any cons for doing this? Why not build the ai so you have the option down the road if you want to start reloading?


You sure can but I never did any accuracy comparisons shooting 280 factory in 280Ai chamber but what I did shoot was certainly minute of hog!
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:37 PM   #150
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Not to mention I just loaded up on Lapua brass for both my guns!



Maybe Iíll just wait and see when they do it again. Or someone will impulse buy one of these deals and I can get it cheaper in 6 months


Ahh yes patience is a virtueÖ I donít really have.

Howís that brass treating ya?


Sierracharlie outÖ
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