Rucking (Ruck Marching)

[ladrones]

Originally Posted by 1369

The Major and I are rigged up and ready for tomorrow.



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I don’t think y’all need luck but I will wish y’all well. Have a cold NM brew post march.


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[SwampRabbit]

Have fun tomorrow... embrace the suck!

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[1369]

Thanks all. Clouds have rolled in and are supposed to stay tomorrow. Wind is still up though.

[1369]

Back in the room. Made the goal of breaking nine hours. Came in at 8:57.

[SwampRabbit]

Originally Posted by 1369

Back in the room. Made the goal of breaking nine hours. Came in at 8:57.

Nice!!



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[Pedernal]

Originally Posted by 1369

Back in the room. Made the goal of breaking nine hours. Came in at 8:57.

Awesome job Sir!

[Geoff995]

Originally Posted by 1369

Back in the room. Made the goal of breaking nine hours. Came in at 8:57.

Good job. It was nice getting to meet you.

[1369]

Originally Posted by Geoff995

Good job. It was nice getting to meet you.

How’d y’all do out there yesterday?

[Geoff995]

Good. It was tough. Have you ever had a major difference in the time that they log for you and your actual time on the course? Mine and Kyles times were off by an hour compared to time we recorded on gps. I finished in 8:18 and their website shows 9:22. Kinda odd.

[Jacobs117]

This was my first experience at the Bataan Memorial Death March. I went with a group and we did the March together. It was a fantastic and challenging experience. I don’t want to spiritualize it but it was very impactful. I learned a ton about the history and what those guys dealt with. It was an honor to suffer the tiny amount comparatively to memorialize the “*******s of Bataan”.
I ran the Dallas marathon and I have to say I don’t know which was more difficult physically. They are so different. But...overall, it was awesome. Congratulations to the other guys here that completed it.


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[1369]

Originally Posted by Geoff995

Good. It was tough. Have you ever had a major difference in the time that they log for you and your actual time on the course? Mine and Kyles times were off by an hour compared to time we recorded on gps. I finished in 8:18 and their website shows 9:22. Kinda odd.

You’re probably seeing the difference between “gun time” and “chip time”. The 9 hours is from when the event started and you finished. The 8 hours is from when your chip crossed the start line and finish line. 8:18 is strong work and an awesome time! Congratulations!

[Geoff995]

Originally Posted by Jacobs117

This was my first experience at the Bataan Memorial Death March. I went with a group and we did the March together. It was a fantastic and challenging experience. I don’t want to spiritualize it but it was very impactful. I learned a ton about the history and what those guys dealt with. It was an honor to suffer the tiny amount comparatively to memorialize the “*******s of Bataan”.
I ran the Dallas marathon and I have to say I don’t know which was more difficult physically. They are so different. But...overall, it was awesome. Congratulations to the other guys here that completed it.


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I agree. The last 6 miles was single handedly the toughest physical thing I have ever done and one of the toughest mental challenges as well.

[Geoff995]

Originally Posted by 1369

You’re probably seeing the difference between “gun time” and “chip time”. The 9 hours is from when the event started and you finished. The 8 hours is from when your chip crossed the start line and finish line. 8:18 is strong work and an awesome time! Congratulations!

Thanks. We didn’t even cross the start line until 8:25am. We went through the line to greet the survivors. Very powerful experience meeting those men.

[1369]

Originally Posted by Geoff995

I agree. The last 6 miles was single handedly the toughest physical thing I have ever done and one of the toughest mental challenges as well.

The “sand pit” has a habit of getting in your head.

[Geoff995]

Originally Posted by 1369

The “sand pit” has a habit of getting in your head.

That’s an understatement. Lol.

[1369]

Next one on the list. September 2018

http://blackhillsveteranmarch.com

[Pedernal]

Rucked a bit last few days. Traps are a bit sore. I am assuming this will go away as those muscles get used to carrying some weight. Any thoughts from you experianced guys would be great.

[1369]

Originally Posted by Pedernal

Rucked a bit last few days. Traps are a bit sore. I am assuming this will go away as those muscles get used to carrying some weight. Any thoughts from you experianced guys would be great.

How far you going? Your traps will get used to the load but long distance is gonna hurt regardless. If you’re going long, pre load ibuprofen the night before and then right before the ruck and during. Won’t kill the pain, but it helps.

[Pedernal]

Originally Posted by 1369

How far you going? Your traps will get used to the load but long distance is gonna hurt regardless. If you’re going long, pre load ibuprofen the night before and then right before the ruck and during. Won’t kill the pain, but it helps.

Not too far ( about 4-5 miles) just trying to get started. I want to start doing some moderate distances on some hills and rocky terrain. Sometimes I am afforded an opportunity to do it while working. Down side is I can't use a pack that straps around the waist as my "tool" belt prevents that.

[SwampRabbit]

Trap soreness goes away as you adapt. Only pain that triggers a reduction in load and volume for me is lower back pain. Honestly, I rarely strain that area now.


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[1369]

Originally Posted by Pedernal

Not too far ( about 4-5 miles) just trying to get started. I want to start doing some moderate distances on some hills and rocky terrain. Sometimes I am afforded an opportunity to do it while working. Down side is I can't use a pack that straps around the waist as my "tool" belt prevents that.

Yea, 4-5 miles your traps will adjust. Going without a hip belt will force your traps to “shoulder” the load. That’s the rig I run, no belt.

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

My wife and I started rucking this week, I started with 35lbs and she with 15. But we need some good packs! I did 4 miles one day and my waist belt broke on my cheap pack. So far I’ve done about 6 miles.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a couple bags that won’t break the bank?

[SwampRabbit]

Originally Posted by BLACKFINTURKEY

My wife and I started rucking this week, I started with 35lbs and she with 15. But we need some good packs! I did 4 miles one day and my waist belt broke on my cheap pack. So far I’ve done about 6 miles.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a couple bags that won’t break the bank?

For 35# loads, you want something that packs well, has some rigidity along the back and pretty good straps. The 5.11 Rush 12 is what I have and like. Small enough to not sag and big enough to get some weight in it. At $80 or less, I think it is a good deal.

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[flatlander]

Originally Posted by BLACKFINTURKEY

My wife and I started rucking this week, I started with 35lbs and she with 15. But we need some good packs! I did 4 miles one day and my waist belt broke on my cheap pack. So far I’ve done about 6 miles.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a couple bags that won’t break the bank?

I had really good luck with a military surplus ruck before I bought a high quality pack. I think I only paid about $40 each for two packs. I did my first GORUCK event with it and it has held up well. Now I loan them to people who go rucking with me.

[Reelthreat]

Originally Posted by 1369

FYI, registration for Bataan 2018 opens on 1 October.

Do you know the guy who rucks around the Blanco/Wilderness Oak area? I see a guy rucking carrying an American flag.

[flatlander]

Waiting for my team to show up for the GORUCK Washington DC 50-mile star course. Going to be a long night in the rain. I’ll post pics when I get back to the office Monday.

[SwampRabbit]

Originally Posted by flatlander

Waiting for my team to show up for the GORUCK Washington DC 50-mile star course. Going to be a long night in the rain. I’ll post pics when I get back to the office Monday.

Good luck! Enjoy the suck!

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[1369]

Originally Posted by Reelthreat

Do you know the guy who rucks around the Blanco/Wilderness Oak area? I see a guy rucking carrying an American flag.

Sorry, just seeing this. You sure the guy wasn’t running? There’s a regular in the Stone Oak area who runs with a flag.

[1369]

Originally Posted by flatlander

Waiting for my team to show up for the GORUCK Washington DC 50-mile star course. Going to be a long night in the rain. I’ll post pics when I get back to the office Monday.

Man, you’re gonna really embrace the suck tonight. Have fun and post a recap!

[flatlander]

Originally Posted by 1369

Man, you’re gonna really embrace the suck tonight. Have fun and post a recap!

Recap

It was a HUGE event. Almost seven hundred people registered, 680 started. It had rained for several days prior, and during the first major movement of about 33 miles up and down the barge canal that leads to Maryland we got three or 4 inches of rain. The path had more water than not, everything was wet, and it was about 55° Off we went at 9pm into the misery with a 20 hour time cap, 17 waypoints to hit and instructions saying that if we navigated perfectly it would be just over 50 miles.

We made it off the barge canal at dawn to start hitting the 15 other points around Washington DC and we’re making pretty good time until about noon when everybody seem to be running on empty. The pace slowed and one of the guys with us with much less experience and conditioning was in really bad shape. About 2 I was certain he was going to drop. We gave him a pep talk, I carried his ruck for a while and gave him a cliff bar for a miraculous rally, but now we were behind the curve on time/miles. We half walked half jogged the last four miles with incredible determination and came into the finish line with just about ten minutes to spare.

Turns out about 35% of the gems and 25%of the people actually finished. Between the weather, the navigation and the miles, it seems a lot of people found a reason to say no mas.

I’m icing my swollen feet and ankles now as I write this and already have a team assembled for the October 50 miler in Dallas. Thank you 1369for introducing me to GORUCK with your write up on the constellation event in New Orleans.

[SwampRabbit]

Sounds like a great time! Congrats on finishing. 50 miles in 20 hours is no small feat regardless of the conditions.



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[Pedernal]

Big congrats flatlander!!

[1369]

Congrats on the Star Course finish! Some of the AAR's I've been reading sound like that was a horrible good time and that opening movement out and back along the B&O canal was a freaking grind.

[flatlander]

Originally Posted by 1369

Congrats on the Star Course finish! Some of the AAR's I've been reading sound like that was a horrible good time and that opening movement out and back along the B&O canal was a freaking grind.

I was an Army infantry soldier in the 82nd Airborne and we did some stupid rucking, but this is by far the hardest I've ever done. That dang trail seemed to go on forever and most if it had 3-4 inch water puddles covering the road.

People have called it the 'Trail of tears' and from what I understand a large number of people made it out to the turn around and quit there, just 16.4 miles in.

The worst part of the course after that was as soon as you came off the trail to head up to the 3rd waypoint it was about 6 miles almost entirely uphill to the Washington National Cathedral.

Our total mileage was about 54 when all was said and done. We finished, I got my patch and three slices of pizza, jumped in a LYFT to the airport, took a babywipe bath in the airport and landed back in San Antonio at 11:45 Saturday night. I could barely walk to make my connection flight in Atlanta, Motrin wasn't helping anymore. What a trip.

[1369]

Originally Posted by flatlander

Our total mileage was about 54 when all was said and done. We finished, I got my patch and three slices of pizza, jumped in a LYFT to the airport, took a babywipe bath in the airport and landed back in San Antonio at 11:45 Saturday night. I could barely walk to make my connection flight in Atlanta, Motrin wasn't helping anymore. What a trip.

Saw a video of Jason McCarthy (GR founder) trying to walk to his flight. Wasn't pretty.

[SwampRabbit]

Was sidelined for 3 weeks due to thyroid surgery... went for my first ruck in 3 weeks. Felt good to be back at it. Got some weight that I need to drop. Have not been good to myself in the last couple months...

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[SwampRabbit]

Well it has been a while since I've posted on this thread.

Back into it regularly now. Had to start from a lighter weight and work myself back up post-op. But, I've been putting in about 5-6 miles a day with a 25# ruck for 2 weeks and will bump up my weight another 5 or so pounds next week and then introduce the 50# ruck for some shorter 2 mile efforts.

For the year, I'm at 906 rucking miles... so barring any other catastrophe or another unplanned limiter... I should be able to hit the 1000 mark

[Speedgoat]

I have done 94 miles since March. I did 8 tonight with a 42lb ruck. 1:47:00

[Jmh05]

Originally Posted by Speedgoat

I have done 94 miles since March. I did 8 tonight with a 42lb ruck. 1:47:00

Beating the standard. Can’t argue with that.

[ladrones]

Did y'all see that 220 pound 22 mile ruck from 22untilone? Pretty impressive.

[1369]

So, evidently I suck out loud at resisting peer pressure and signed up for this over the weekend.

[SwampRabbit]

Nice!!! What date is that?

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[1369]

Originally Posted by SwampRabbit

Nice!!! What date is that?

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12 October.

[1369]

Start point for the Dallas 50 miler is Trinity Overlook Park. My bet is that will be our long overnight evolution. Anyone from that area know how long that trail system is? Looked up the web page but it doesn't look like it's been updated in a few years.

[Speedgoat]

I am now at 102!! Ranger panties, boonie, over the calf socks, and boots!!

[SwampRabbit]

Originally Posted by Speedgoat

I am now at 102!! Ranger panties, boonie, over the calf socks, and boots!!

No pictures required...

BTW, living up to your TBH name with 42#, sub 15 minute miles over 8 miles!

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[JoseyWales82]

Originally Posted by SwampRabbit

BTW, living up to your TBH name with 42#, sub 15 minute miles over 8 miles!

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Dang! That's awesome. My small legs wont let me "walk" that fast.

[1369]

So, my plan for the 50 mile train up is to hit 3 rucks during the week in the evening heat (only time I can find) at 50# for 3-4 miles and then hit an early morning Sunday ruck with the Star load out (20#, full 3L water bladder, some chow, etc) for longer miles (starting at 8 this weekend and probably building to 20 or 22). I'll be hitting the gym on the evenings I'm not rucking for strength/cardio work. The mileage isn't optimal in my opinion, but myself and the folks I'll be going with are multiple Bataan finishers, plus some GR events, so I know what 26.2 feels like and am confident that beyond that distance it's just gonna hurt so just mentally grinding it out is the only option.

[SwampRabbit]

What's the time limit?

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[1369]

Originally Posted by SwampRabbit

What's the time limit?

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20 hours. So, an average of 24:00/mile.