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Old 05-24-2018, 09:45 AM   #1
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:08 AM   #2
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:17 AM   #3
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What's the miss?
That's what I was wondering. I'm sure most gun owners will agree with him.
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That's what I was wondering. I'm sure most gun owners will agree with him.
Because it's just window dressing. You want the government setting regulations on how to store your weapons? Faster reporting?.....parkland shooter had 39 red flags....it had been reported for months, but everyone failed.

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Old 05-24-2018, 10:33 AM   #6
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I would rather have Greg Abbott running this show than student protesters. If anyone is going to lookout for our 2nd amendment rights and Texan's rights, it would be Mr Abbott.
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Gonna be incredibly interesting watching this play out.
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Because it's just window dressing. You want the government setting regulations on how to store your weapons? Faster reporting?.....parkland shoot had 39 red flags....it had been reported for months, but everyone failed.
Hammer meets head of nail.

I've not heard anything about the Santa Fe shooter having any mental health problems. Background checks wouldn't have done anything here either. The dad bought the guns, not the kid. Locking your guns up negates the point of having them for self defense purposes as any intruder will not be letting you call a time out to get your weapon.
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I would rather have Greg Abbott running this show than student protesters. If anyone is going to lookout for our 2nd amendment rights and Texan's rights, it would be Mr Abbott.
He's still a politician bro.....don't trust him any father than you can throw him.
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:44 AM   #10
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Gonna be incredibly interesting watching this play out.
Yep....lots of attention on this issue. Now is when our politicians are most vulnerable to selling us out.
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How about we do nothing and rely on .......hope
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How about we do nothing and rely on .......hope
Throw that in with the measures he's talking about....same outcome.
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Simple question how are they going to enforce a law regarding proper storage or locking of guns? I can see this in and of itself as opening Pandoras Box. Will LE conduct surprise home searches etc...?
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Following up on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s suggestion of hardening security at Texas schools, Texas Monthly’s R.G. Ratcliffe does the math: “The price of walk-through metal detectors range, in general, from about $3,500 to $5,000 each. There are more than 9,100 public school and charter school campuses in Texas. If metal detectors cost $4,000 each, then the total price tag for equipping the state school buildings would run about $36.4 million.”

These are some interesting figures (for about half of a HS football stadium, we can get metal detectors). I can also see how it could create bottle necks that would make it easier for a shooter to just attack from the outside. A stop and frisk could be a lot cheaper than detectors and probably just as big of a deterrent.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:36 AM   #15
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Following up on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s suggestion of hardening security at Texas schools, Texas Monthly’s R.G. Ratcliffe does the math: “The price of walk-through metal detectors range, in general, from about $3,500 to $5,000 each. There are more than 9,100 public school and charter school campuses in Texas. If metal detectors cost $4,000 each, then the total price tag for equipping the state school buildings would run about $36.4 million.”

These are some interesting figures (for about half of a HS football stadium, we can get metal detectors). I can also see how it could create bottle necks that would make it easier for a shooter to just attack from the outside. A stop and frisk could be a lot cheaper than detectors and probably just as big of a deterrent.
Thats chump change. 28 million folks is Texas. Couple bucks each
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He's still a politician bro.....don't trust him any father than you can throw him.

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Old 05-24-2018, 11:46 AM   #17
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Tell me again how the Texas Lottery is helping school funding?

Didn't they just give us the freedom to legalize sports gambling? Can we not add to that amount with that measure?

Those millions and funding should be ZERO issue !
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Tell me again how the Texas Lottery is helping school funding?

Didn't they just give us the freedom to legalize sports gambling? Can we not add to that amount with that measure?

Those millions and funding should be ZERO issue !
Don't get me started on that NON sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Simple question how are they going to enforce a law regarding proper storage or locking of guns? I can see this in and of itself as opening Pandoras Box. Will LE conduct surprise home searches etc...?
It will just be a legal justification to prosecute a parent if the child takes guns out of the closet and goes on a shooting spree.
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Its alright he won't be there much longer.....he's got to go up against Loopy Lupe come Nov.
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It will just be a legal justification to prosecute a parent if the child takes guns out of the closet and goes on a shooting spree.
Thats what they will claim at first. But you know as well as I do that as days come and go and yrs past the " Intent and purpose" of the law will change and have new meaning.
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Thats what they will claim at first. But you know as well as I do that as days come and go and yrs past the " Intent and purpose" of the law will change and have new meaning.
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Thats what they will claim at first. But you know as well as I do that as days come and go and yrs past the " Intent and purpose" of the law will change and have new meaning.
Slippery slope is what we do best with politics!!!!
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Its alright he won't be there much longer.....he's got to go up against Loopy Lupe come Nov.
Don't laugh. Never under-estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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Following up on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s suggestion of hardening security at Texas schools, Texas Monthly’s R.G. Ratcliffe does the math: “The price of walk-through metal detectors range, in general, from about $3,500 to $5,000 each. There are more than 9,100 public school and charter school campuses in Texas. If metal detectors cost $4,000 each, then the total price tag for equipping the state school buildings would run about $36.4 million.”



These are some interesting figures (for about half of a HS football stadium, we can get metal detectors). I can also see how it could create bottle necks that would make it easier for a shooter to just attack from the outside. A stop and frisk could be a lot cheaper than detectors and probably just as big of a deterrent.


Schools in this state **** away 4 times that much on iPads, landscaping, and organic options in the cafeteria… I don't want to hear about the price.


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So you think she has a chance huh?
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No, but nothing surprises me anymore. Over 40% of Texas votes democrat. Thats way, way to many
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, but nothing surprises me anymore. Over 40% of Texas votes democrat. Thats way, way to many
Those are pre-trump numbers !
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Following up on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s suggestion of hardening security at Texas schools, Texas Monthly’s R.G. Ratcliffe does the math: “The price of walk-through metal detectors range, in general, from about $3,500 to $5,000 each. There are more than 9,100 public school and charter school campuses in Texas. If metal detectors cost $4,000 each, then the total price tag for equipping the state school buildings would run about $36.4 million.”

These are some interesting figures (for about half of a HS football stadium, we can get metal detectors). I can also see how it could create bottle necks that would make it easier for a shooter to just attack from the outside. A stop and frisk could be a lot cheaper than detectors and probably just as big of a deterrent.
With all due respect, your math is off. Since tax dollars would be used for procurement, the price tag for each MD would be closer to $10K each. You always need to budget for abuse, fraud & corruption with our tax dollars.
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With all due respect, your math is off.
The part in italics is not mine wording, math or facts. That is why I put it in italics.
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He's still a politician bro.....don't trust him any father than you can throw him.
Agreed on this one, he can talk all that NRA stuff and bible thumping but in the end he is a politician.
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Following up on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s suggestion of hardening security at Texas schools, Texas Monthly’s R.G. Ratcliffe does the math: “The price of walk-through metal detectors range, in general, from about $3,500 to $5,000 each. There are more than 9,100 public school and charter school campuses in Texas. If metal detectors cost $4,000 each, then the total price tag for equipping the state school buildings would run about $36.4 million.”

These are some interesting figures (for about half of a HS football stadium, we can get metal detectors). I can also see how it could create bottle necks that would make it easier for a shooter to just attack from the outside. A stop and frisk could be a lot cheaper than detectors and probably just as big of a deterrent.
If we get to the point that children are using a security bottle neck to gun down other children than at that point the entire public school thing can just be shut down.

What kills me is schools in the inner cities have implemented this idea and successfully back in the 90s when gangs started recruiting school aged kids. It works; and has been working. Typical liberal media; ignore the ghetto schools; ignore Chicago and all the other ghettos where they are murdering each other but the second some white people do it its front page headlines and white male toxicity must be destroyed. Dumb asses.
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If we get to the point that children are using a security bottle neck to gun down other children than at that point the entire public school thing can just be shut down.
I want to say that Cruz pulled a fire alarm to get the kids out of the classrooms then basically ambushed them as they took the preplanned safety route per the fire alarm protocol. I may have the shooter wrong but the fire alarm thing is a tactic for sure.
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Tell me again how the Texas Lottery is helping school funding?

Didn't they just give us the freedom to legalize sports gambling? Can we not add to that amount with that measure?

Those millions and funding should be ZERO issue !
Hahaha, come on now you know they have a laundry list of **** they want personally before they will ever start allocating funds towards where they were intended to go.
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Agreed on this one, he can talk all that NRA stuff and bible thumping but in the end he is a politician.
Bingo!!!!
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Since tax dollars would be used for procurement, the price tag for each MD would be closer to $10K each. You always need to budget for abuse, fraud & corruption with our tax dollars.
Brother did you ever nail that one!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad thing as taxpayers we know this is a FACT...……..but don't do anything about it.
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Classic! That's how we got Obama not once but twice and almost got Killary.
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