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Old 08-08-2017, 02:39 PM   #51
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Thunderbeast is far and away the best.
It seems to be real popular on here.

My only complain is it does not come with a lifetime warranty like alot of brands.
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I got a Thunderbeast ultra 7 and I'm really pleased with it
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:11 AM   #54
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It seems to be real popular on here.

My only complain is it does not come with a lifetime warranty like alot of brands.
Well, let me tell you about my experience with Thunderbeast. They did a voluntary recall of the .338 two years ago. I had a choice of sending mine back in and getting it rebuilt with upgraded baffles or pay for another tax stamp and get a whole new upgraded suppressor that was a couple ounces lighter than my original. I paid for the stamp. They didn't have to offer that option, and it cost them big time to do that. Also, when you call them, you speak to a person, not a machine. As far as "lifetime warranties" go, there are three things that can happen to damage a suppressor: baffle strike, impact damage, or complete blowout. All are caused by user error, and all will void any type of warranty.
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It seems to be real popular on here.

My only complain is it does not come with a lifetime warranty like alot of brands.
The original 30-P1 was, and some may say still is, the gold standard in precision rifle suppressors. ThunderBeast puts out quality suppressors; however, for your application I think you will find something that fits better.
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As far as "lifetime warranties" go, there are three things that can happen to damage a suppressor: baffle strike, impact damage, or complete blowout. All are caused by user error, and all will void any type of warranty.
This is not true based on my reading. Some have a one time no questions asked replacement, even user stupidity

Eventually after a while 10+ years of frequent use, a suppressor can wear out. And this will be covered. I talked to CS from a popular brand yesterday and they confirmed this
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All are caused by user error, and all will void any type of warranty.
That is absolutely not true with SilencerCo. Call and ask them, they will tell you that being stupid will only cost you the second time.
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That is absolutely not true with SilencerCo. Call and ask them, they will tell you that being stupid will only cost you the second time.
My experiences with Silencerco have been less than spectacular. I have a 7.62SD which chronically loosens and has been repaired once, but hoops had to be jumped through, and there was no admission of a design flaw. Ask virtually anyone who has a Silencerco suppressor that uses a 51T mount, and they will tell you all about it.
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AAC SDN-6

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My experiences with Silencerco have been less than spectacular. I have a 7.62SD which chronically loosens and has been repaired once, but hoops had to be jumped through, and there was no admission of a design flaw. Ask virtually anyone who has a Silencerco suppressor that uses a 51T mount, and they will tell you all about it.
Seems to be many happy people with an Omega 300.

I called them and the guy was very nice and knowledgeable. Answered all my questions and knew what he was talking about.

Other then that i do not know about them.
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Seems to be many happy people with an Omega 300.

I called them and the guy was very nice and knowledgeable. Answered all my questions and knew what he was talking about.

Other then that i do not know about them.
Spend some time on suppressortalk.com and AR15.com, and you will find that Silencerco is not well thought of. Try to find someone who has had a bad experience with Thunderbeast. I've never seen one, and they dominate the precision rifle crowd. I have Silencerco, Gemtech, and Thunderbeast, and the only one I wouldn't buy from again is Silencerco.
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Spend some time on suppressortalk.com and AR15.com, and you will find that Silencerco is not well thought of. Try to find someone who has had a bad experience with Thunderbeast. I've never seen one, and they dominate the precision rifle crowd. I have Silencerco, Gemtech, and Thunderbeast, and the only one I wouldn't buy from again is Silencerco.
Things I like to hear. Telling sign. Thanks

I do need to get on some of those sights.

Gemtech One seems to be popular, just have to buy a QD mount with that one as it is not included.
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Things I like to hear. Telling sign. Thanks

I do need to get on some of those sights.

Gemtech One seems to be popular, just have to buy a QD mount with that one as it is not included.
If you are only going to buy one suppressor for multiple calibers, go with one of the hybrids for sure.
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If you are only going to buy one suppressor for multiple calibers, go with one of the hybrids for sure.
Like which one? What exactly is a hybrid?

Yes I plan on buying only 1 and switching it off between AR rifles. And then getting my .257 threaded so I can use it deer hunting next year also
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The Gemtech One is one. If you want to use a suppressor on multiple platforms, it needs to be at least .30 caliber (I use a .45 on my .300 blackout) and it should have a quick detach, as thread patterns differ between the different calibers, so a direct thread would have to have pain in the *** thread adapters without a QD. Silencerco makes the Hybrid 46, but, as stated, I'm not a fan of Silencerco. Do some research, talk to Silencershop, and really make an educated choice, because once you apply for that stamp, there's no going back.
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My experiences with Silencerco have been less than spectacular. I have a 7.62SD which chronically loosens and has been repaired once, but hoops had to be jumped through, and there was no admission of a design flaw. Ask virtually anyone who has a Silencerco suppressor that uses a 51T mount, and they will tell you all about it.
I am not following you. The 7.62SD is an AAC suppressor, not SilencerCo. You also reference 51T, that also was/is an AAC design. Since Remington now owns AAC I am not surprised you have had warranty issues.

SilencerCo does sell adapters for that mounting system but it is not their design.
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The Gemtech One is one. If you want to use a suppressor on multiple platforms, it needs to be at least .30 caliber (I use a .45 on my .300 blackout) and it should have a quick detach, as thread patterns differ between the different calibers, so a direct thread would have to have pain in the *** thread adapters without a QD. Silencerco makes the Hybrid 46, but, as stated, I'm not a fan of Silencerco. Do some research, talk to Silencershop, and really make an educated choice, because once you apply for that stamp, there's no going back.
Will do. Yes I plan on going the QD route.

Yes I plan on using a 7.62/.308 suppressor so I can use it with anything up to a .308 as I won't be shooting anything bigger then that.
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talk to Silencershop,
This is very telling, I talked earlier in this thread about the rift between SilncerCo and SilencerShop. I would not listen to what they now have to say about SilencerCo.

Further, you just made a case about SilencerCo based on an AAC suppressor. I am confused.
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I am not following you. The 7.62SD is an AAC suppressor, not SilencerCo. You also reference 51T, that also was/is an AAC design. Since Remington now owns AAC I am not surprised you have had warranty issues.

SilencerCo does sell adapters for that mounting system but it is not their design.
Sorry, meant AAC. My bad. I have a silencerco Octane .45 that I'm not enamored with, but I haven't had any issues with it or the company.
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Sorry, meant AAC. My bad. I have a silencerco Octane .45 that I'm not enamored with, but I haven't had any issues with it or the company.
I am with you on the Octane. I think the idea to cover everything from .45 to sub sonic .300 was better on paper. My Octane .45 has not been used in years.
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I am with you on the Octane. I think the idea to cover everything from .45 to sub sonic .300 was better on paper. My Octane .45 has not been used in years.
It's a decent pistol suppressor, but they promoted it for .300 blackout, and it's not at all impressive for that.
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Anyone here use Thunderbeast ultra? How much is the POI shift with the can is installed? A can that requires a 2nd zero for when it's attached is no bueno

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Anyone here use Thunderbeast ultra? How much is the POI shift with the can is installed? A can that requires a 2nd zero for when it's attached is no bueno
Did you read the thread?? lol

That can is great for precision rifles. Someone mentioned no POI shift. However, I always see some POI shift when shooting suppressed regardless of the can. The key is that the shift is repeatable with every mount/unmount. Consistency is key and Thunderbeast has that nailed down.

I was not a fan of the original Saker ratchet mount for that very reason. I have moved all of my SilencerCo stuff over to the ASR mount and have found the POI shift to be very consistent.
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Like which one? What exactly is a hybrid?

Yes I plan on buying only 1 and switching it off between AR rifles. And then getting my .257 threaded so I can use it deer hunting next year also
SilencerCo Hybrid
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Did you read the thread?? lol

That can is great for precision rifles. Someone mentioned no POI shift. However, I always see some POI shift when shooting suppressed regardless of the can. The key is that the shift is repeatable with every mount/unmount. Consistency is key and Thunderbeast has that nailed down.

I was not a fan of the original Saker ratchet mount for that very reason. I have moved all of my SilencerCo stuff over to the ASR mount and have found the POI shift to be very consistent.
Yes I re-read where one guy mentioned no shift, but I didn't know they are titanium internals which I don't like. Their website states not to shoot more than 30 rounds at a time due to over heating.
I'm not big on dedicated bolt gun cans.
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Yes I re-read where one guy mentioned no shift, but I didn't know they are titanium internals which I don't like. Their website states not to shoot more than 30 rounds at a time due to over heating.
I'm not big on dedicated bolt gun cans.
What would you need to shoot 25-30+ shots at?
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What would you need to shoot 25-30+ shots at?
Terrorists?

I get what he is saying, but your point is valid. All of mine are full auto rated and I have never shot more than 5-10 shots without some sort of cool down.

I guess a lot of people like to do mag dumps. I would not necessarily judge a suppressor on the published rate of fire anyway. It just boils down to the materials that are used in the can, primarily the blast baffle.
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Terrorists?

I get what he is saying, but your point is valid. All of mine are full auto rated and I have never shot more than 5-10 shots without some sort of cool down.

I guess a lot of people like to do mag dumps. I would not necessarily judge a suppressor on the published rate of fire anyway. It just boils down to the materials that are used in the can, primarily the blast baffle.
The fact that they are full auto tells me it maybe a slightly better made can then non auto rated
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Not to hijack the thread but has anyone used both an ultra 7 and a crux? Looking for a 30 cal can for longer range shooting, as well has hog hunting on my 6.8 AR.
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My buddy uses a Crux and no complaints.... I need to finally make up my mind lol
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Not to hijack the thread but has anyone used both an ultra 7 and a crux? Looking for a 30 cal can for longer range shooting, as well has hog hunting on my 6.8 AR.
The TBAC Ultra 7 is known as one of the best cans on the market for POI repeatability. It's truly an excellent suppressor.

I would not even put the Crux in the same ball park. They're a no-name company compared to the Top 10 manufacturers. Very little data provided by the manufacturer on performance.

Suppressors are essentially a lifetime purchase. Go with a proven performer.
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The TBAC Ultra 7 is known as one of the best cans on the market for POI repeatability. It's truly an excellent suppressor.



I would not even put the Crux in the same ball park. They're a no-name company compared to the Top 10 manufacturers. Very little data provided by the manufacturer on performance.



Suppressors are essentially a lifetime purchase. Go with a proven performer.


And you are basing this on what?

Crux is well known to be very repeatable and low to no point shift.



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The TBAC Ultra 7 is known as one of the best cans on the market for POI repeatability. It's truly an excellent suppressor.

I would not even put the Crux in the same ball park. They're a no-name company compared to the Top 10 manufacturers. Very little data provided by the manufacturer on performance.

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And you are basing this on what?

Crux is well known to be very repeatable and low to no point shift.



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Love to hear and see the data....

It is like anything else, and biased and based on what each of yall like.

I did believe that CRUX is relatively a new company though
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Crux is well known to be very repeatable and low to no [POI] shift.
If they are so well known, you will not have a problem pointing us to this data and reputation.
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Mirage ulr is a serviceable 30cal can they are out of Azle, Tx. I don't have one. It there's a guy at the range I go to that runs one on his 300 and it's very impressive.
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If they are so well known, you will not have a problem pointing us to this data and reputation.
I don't have any data to point to. Nor do I care to get into a pissing match over it. But Crux makes some very good cans. TBAC is overpriced. They made a name by sponsoring a metric ton of PRS guys. They are good cans. But nothing special. I would not pay retail for one. I've shot a lot of them. Several friends are dealers and have every demo can they offer. Their demo prices are what their retail should be lol. Silencerco isn't what they once were. AAC is pretty well gone. Rugged is getting big. Crux. Lots of folks making new very good cans. I haven't kept up with them all enough to say what the best is. I haven't purchased a single NFA item since the new regs started. I'm in on a trust with a very close friend of mine and he ordered 2 of everything dead air makes LOL. I would take a very serious look at dead air. OP, if you are interested in hearing from them I can get you in touch with their Texas rep. He's a good friend of mine and I know the owners well. We have a few of their cans on my trust with me and my wife and brother. They perform great. I use my harvester and my specwar on everything for the most part. My specwar doesn't really come off my SBR gas guns. It's been beat to heck and does great. I need to order a sandman TI. The NFA market has done some crazy things in the last year. Whatever you buy I wish you luck. If you're ever in the Austin area I don't mind letting you try a couple of mine.
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I don't have any data to point to. Nor do I care to get into a pissing match over it. But Crux makes some very good cans. TBAC is overpriced. They made a name by sponsoring a metric ton of PRS guys. They are good cans. But nothing special. I would not pay retail for one. I've shot a lot of them. Several friends are dealers and have every demo can they offer. Their demo prices are what their retail should be lol. Silencerco isn't what they once were. AAC is pretty well gone. Rugged is getting big. Crux. Lots of folks making new very good cans. I haven't kept up with them all enough to say what the best is. I haven't purchased a single NFA item since the new regs started. I'm in on a trust with a very close friend of mine and he ordered 2 of everything dead air makes LOL. I would take a very serious look at dead air. OP, if you are interested in hearing from them I can get you in touch with their Texas rep. He's a good friend of mine and I know the owners well. We have a few of their cans on my trust with me and my wife and brother. They perform great. I use my harvester and my specwar on everything for the most part. My specwar doesn't really come off my SBR gas guns. It's been beat to heck and does great. I need to order a sandman TI. The NFA market has done some crazy things in the last year. Whatever you buy I wish you luck. If you're ever in the Austin area I don't mind letting you try a couple of mine.
It sounds like you have a lot more exposure to and experience with those cans than I do. I agree that if the OP is willing to look at Dead Air that the Sandman line is worth a strong look. I just jumped on a LaRue Tranquilo and will be interested to see how it performs compared to the rest.
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Report back on how that larue can performs. I haven't heard a word about them. Lots of Mark Larue haters abound haha
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At $399 I couldn't say no. With any luck I'll shoot it this weekend.
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I am still undecided....sucks because I need to get one ordered and get a trust done so I can get this 7-10 month wait on the books
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Buy a few then
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LMAO...No.

Just gonna buy 1 to swap between AR's and deer rifle. Can always buy more then 1 QD mount
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:52 PM   #96
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:53 PM   #97
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LMAO...No.

Just gonna buy 1 to swap between AR's and deer rifle. Can always buy multiple mounts and suppressors
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Old 09-25-2017, 01:28 PM   #98
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LMAO...No.

Just gonna buy 1 to swap between AR's and deer rifle. Can always buy more then 1 QD mount
WOW.....I said that exact thing 5 additional suppressors ago.

My friend told me not to buy one unless I was going to buy more......I told him he was full of &^&)*^^$$%#^. He was right.
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WOW.....I said that exact thing 5 additional suppressors ago.

My friend told me not to buy one unless I was going to buy more......I told him he was full of &^&)*^^$$%#^. He was right.
Please explain to me why? Maybe down the road with kids but I can only shoot 1 gun at a time. And can pop it off my .257 Weatherby mag for deer hunting and .308 AR 10 for thermal pig hunting

Money is tight now, maybe down the road but I am lucky to get 1 now lol
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:29 PM   #100
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Curious, any TBH'rs sell suppressors?
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