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Old 01-11-2018, 06:08 AM   #101
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I like how some of yall are complaining about one guy breaking the law by driving in the left lane, then blatantly admitting you break the law to go around them or intimidate them. Thats some kind of messed up rationale!

Btw, please guys, stay out of left lane unless passing....
Probably the same guys throwing around the word hypocrite on the pot thread.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:18 AM   #102
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So I have to ask, what does a person do with all that extra time they create for themselves by endangering everyone else traveling at the posted speeds?

Leave 10 minutes earlier and you wouldn't have to drive so fast all the time.

Bucha **** women...
No one is saving a full ten minutes by speeding. Not unless they are traveling more than 30+ miles And even then it most likely doesn't save that much.

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What donít you understand? If the speed limit is say 75mph that is the MAXIMUM speed you may drive and be within the law. So if the right lane is for vehicles travling slow that would mean vehicles traveling slower than posted speed limit that could be 70,65 or even 72 mph.

The left lane is for passing only so if Iím driving 75mph I will be driving the maximum speed that the law says I can drive. Being in the passing lane I would be passing all vehicles in the right lane traveling at a lesser pace. Why is this concept so hard to understand for people?

Do stop signs mean stop or do what ever you want as you approach an intersection?
A stop sign obviously means that people who choose to waste time and come to a complete stop must do so in the right lane. This allows rolling stoppers to keep moving in the left lane.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:22 AM   #103
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Passed 5 lefty cruisers this am heading to work. Luckily at 545 not many are on the road and they were easy passes in the right lane but reguardless I passed 5 idiots heading to work today
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And refuse to use the shoulder, they would rather endanger everyone by making you pass in the oncoming lane....
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1st I never suggested doing it when dangerous. 2nd I challenge your view of legality. 3rd your debris idea is complete BS

I was taught to be courteous and move over and let others pass, this is much safer than going 10mph under the posted speed enraging people till they make questionable passing decisions.

And yes I follow this, when Iím empty and running I expect people to let me around and when Iím loaded I donít hesitate to move over and let people around, itís simple common courtesy
Wow... Can't believe liberalism has crept in this deep. So now the person driving safe and slow is to blame for the lack of patience by the speeder.

Yep, this thread is about as bad as the pot thread. Speeders are safe. It's the slow drivers causing the wrecks...geez
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:47 AM   #105
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It's one thing to hang out in the left lane so people can't pass the slowpoke in the right. I don't know why people are so scared to pass 18 wheelers for some reason. What irks me though is the ones that try to push while I'm passing, usually speeding myself. I'll get out of your way once I'm past. In the meantime, get off my bumper, you ain't that important.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:51 AM   #106
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Wait a minute, you got one part wrong, (Several minutes) more like 5 to 8 minutes. I hate this the most as well.
Measured in "miles" rather than "minutes."

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Old 01-11-2018, 06:54 AM   #107
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I'm a if I'm going 70 in a 65 I'm not moving over guy. No reason you should be going faster. Unless I see like hazards or something I'll move. But getting up on my bumper I actually slow down and match my speed to the car next to me to really annoy them. Driving daily for work I've noticed you don't get to your destination really that much faster and sometimes I beat them there just cruising.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:56 AM   #108
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Make folks follow the law, so you few can break it
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:13 AM   #109
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What donít you understand? If the speed limit is say 75mph that is the MAXIMUM speed you may drive and be within the law. So if the right lane is for vehicles travling slow that would mean vehicles traveling slower than posted speed limit that could be 70,65 or even 72 mph.

The left lane is for passing only so if Iím driving 75mph I will be driving the maximum speed that the law says I can drive. Being in the passing lane I would be passing all vehicles in the right lane traveling at a lesser pace. Why is this concept so hard to understand for people?

Do stop signs mean stop or do what ever you want as you approach an intersection?
Nobody cares about you going 75 past the only car in the right going 70 on a lonely highway.

The only complaint is you going 75 & the right laners are going 74.5...you have a clean spot on the right let's say a couple-three hundred yards up. How difficult is it to speed up a little & help impeding traffic get through vs taking 10-15 minutes to do the same holding 75 & traffic is piling up behind you in the left?? It's safer for everyone if you actually help clear the bottle neck.

I drive about 400 miles a day & go 5 over the limit everywhere I go...there are more LE in my area than anywhere in TX right now. I just wave & keep going. You are not going to get a citation for simply picking it up to 80, moving right & then the others start passing you. Don't get so jacked up on this 75 so called LIMIT you are entitled to hold or afraid to surpass is all we are asking. This particular concept should not be very difficult to grasp.



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Old 01-11-2018, 07:20 AM   #110
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Nobody cares about you going 75 past the only car in the right going 70 on a lonely highway.

The only complaint is you going 75 & the right laners are going 74.5...you have a clean spot on the right let's say a couple-three hundred yards up. How difficult is it to speed up a little & help impeding traffic get through vs taking 10-15 minutes to do the same holding 75 & traffic is piling up behind you in the left?? It's safer for everyone if you actually help clear the bottle neck.

I drive about 400 miles a day & go 5 over the limit everywhere I go...there are more LE in my area than anywhere in TX right now. I just wave & keep going. You are not going to get a citation for simply picking it up to 80, moving right & then the others start passing you. Don't get so jacked up on this 75 so called LIMIT you are entitled to hold or afraid to surpass is all we are asking. This particular concept should not be very difficult to grasp.



Out...gotta hit the road.
Had to do that this morning.
Was in the left lane doing 72 in a 65. About to pass a 18 wheeler after I passed a black dodge 1500.

Noticed a car behind me was closing the distance so I increase my speed a few mphís to be in front of the 18 wheeler by the time the car would be riding my bumper.
Was back in the middle lane and back to my normal cruising speed just as the car caught up and passed me.

Driving isnít to hard
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:21 AM   #111
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These threads always show who the *******s are lol. If you are in the left lane and someone is coming up behind you going faster, it is the law to move over. It doesn't matter is they are going 30 mph or 130 mph. It's not your job to regulate their speed. Also, if you have to pass someone on the right for not moving over, there is absolutely no reason to cut them off so hard they have to slam their brakes. It seems like people on both sides of this argument just want to be dicks for no reason.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:27 AM   #112
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These threads always start a lot of hating on here. Ain't nothing gonna change everybody will retain their same driving habits, that's just the way it is. Driving like a fool and killing yourself is one thing, driving like a fool and kill other people is murder. Remember the church bus accident by Garner State Park?

I will say this though, I would like to put y'all in a big truck for a month. Drive 500 miles a week in it and then come back on this thread and preach about drivers.

I wish we could post about good stuff on here without drama and hating. I hear that chit all day long, I would rather come on here and laugh or talk about hunting or fishing or drinking anything but this stuff.

And yes, I normally shy away from these threads but lately they too many of them on here. Heck I might as well go over to THF and read.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:28 AM   #113
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Boswell. It is illegal to drive on an improved shoulder. You can do so under very few circumstances and allowing another to pass is not one of them. I do it to let people pass- It is illegal
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:30 AM   #114
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What don’t you understand? If the speed limit is say 75mph that is the MAXIMUM speed you may drive and be within the law. So if the right lane is for vehicles travling slow that would mean vehicles traveling slower than posted speed limit that could be 70,65 or even 72 mph.

The left lane is for passing only so if I’m driving 75mph I will be driving the maximum speed that the law says I can drive. Being in the passing lane I would be passing all vehicles in the right lane traveling at a lesser pace. Why is this concept so hard to understand for people?

Do stop signs mean stop or do what ever you want as you approach an intersection?
It's cute when someone is so ****in wrong but thinks theyre so right..and then claims others dont understand....

Read the whole ****in sign.
Here's your sign.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:32 AM   #115
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Ya, unfortunately a thread like this just brings up bad feelings. Either people are mad because they want to be a "speeder".....illegal.....and are trying to run up peoples rearends and then you have the person driving slow in the left lane.......illegal......slowing down the traffic and getting mad at the speeder. Idiot speeders and idiot slow drivers....Wish we could all get along. LOL
I'm not sure "idiot speeder" is the correct term. Idiot slow driver and idiot blocking left lane is correct. If no one is in the left lane and I am speeding then I do not bother anyone.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:33 AM   #116
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It's cute when someone is so ****in wrong but thinks theyre so right..and then claims others dont understand....

Read the whole ****in sign.
Here's your sign.
Boom goes the Dynamite!
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:37 AM   #117
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If a person is traveling at the posted speed limit it is not against the law to drive in whatever lane they want to. It is a courtesy to move to the right lane to allow another to pass but the legal violation would be impeding traffic and a person would have to go below the maximum speed limit to impede traffic. I checked with our prosecutors and they said there is no valid law "right lane for passing only". Said there is no set distance or time set for overtaking another vehicle therefore every vehicle could possibly be overtaking another vehicle.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:41 AM   #118
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Passed 5 lefty cruisers this am heading to work. Luckily at 545 not many are on the road and they were easy passes in the right lane but reguardless I passed 5 idiots heading to work today
I see what you did there and I approve this message
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:42 AM   #119
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If a person is traveling at the posted speed limit it is not against the law to drive in whatever lane they want to. It is a courtesy to move to the right lane to allow another to pass but the legal violation would be impeding traffic and a person would have to go below the maximum speed limit to impede traffic. I checked with our prosecutors and they said there is no valid law "right lane for passing only". Said there is no set distance or time set for overtaking another vehicle therefore every vehicle could possibly be overtaking another vehicle.
uh..
the post a couple above yours should clear up anything for you regarding the left lane, its use, and the law. look for the ones with the pictures.

but i agree with whatever shyster you asked.. " there is no valid law "right lane for passing only". "

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Old 01-11-2018, 07:42 AM   #120
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Funny how attitudes change as you age. I'm more than happy to move over and let you by even if I'm driving the posted speed limit. Like my dad used to say. "I'd rather have that fool in front of me instead of behind me."
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Houston area tried to enforce by issuing "Disreguard Posted Sign" but from my understanding all courts have thrown them out. Courts have stated impeding traffic will be taken but it is not possible to impede traffic traveling to maximum posted speed limit
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Houston area tried to enforce by issuing "Disreguard Posted Sign" but from my understanding all courts have thrown them out. Courts have stated impeding traffic will be taken but it is not possible to impede traffic traveling to maximum posted speed limit
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:50 AM   #123
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System- the shyster is a prosecuting attorney that does nothing but traffic law. I would imagine he may stay current on higher court rulings as apparently this made it there. I know this must be your area of expertise. The only violation that could be issued is "Disreguard Posted Sign". It didn't fly in court.
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System- the shyster is a prosecuting attorney that does nothing but traffic law. I would imagine he may stay current on higher court rulings as apparently this made it there. I know this must be your area of expertise. The only violation that could be issued is "Disreguard Posted Sign". It didn't fly in court.
Hes not very good at his job then.
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Pretty ****in clear.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:56 AM   #125
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Look up Texas Penal Code 21.06. It is similar to this statue. On the books but will not pass the sniff test of higher courts
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:57 AM   #126
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Left lane is for passing, Texas state law.
This

If you are in the left passing lane, someone may roll up behind you and start flashing their driving lights.

If you slam on your breaks to intimidate them they may have a dash cam and that would not go well for you

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Funny how attitudes change as you age. I'm more than happy to move over and let you by even if I'm driving the posted speed limit. Like my dad used to say. "I'd rather have that fool in front of me instead of behind me."
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TTC 544.001 will require further definition and clarity before it could be enforced. That may come out in September for all I know
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:07 AM   #129
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If a person is traveling at the posted speed limit it is not against the law to drive in whatever lane they want to. It is a courtesy to move to the right lane to allow another to pass but the legal violation would be impeding traffic and a person would have to go below the maximum speed limit to impede traffic. I checked with our prosecutors and they said there is no valid law "right lane for passing only". Said there is no set distance or time set for overtaking another vehicle therefore every vehicle could possibly be overtaking another vehicle.
Boom goes the real Dynamite LOL
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These threads always crack me up.

IF you want to see some real idiot drivers, drive a school bus. It absolutely amazes me how people disregard school buses.

I could write a book from what I just see on my morning route and it would double in size if I included all the things I see while traveling for sports.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:25 AM   #131
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Honestly I'm usually with 5mph of the speed limit. It is aggravating how other drivers do sometimes but life is too short to get stressed over stuff like that. The speed limit at 75mph on the highways is enough. Past that my gas mileage suffers anyhow.

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Not sure how, there are only 2 lanes with 2 large objects in each.
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Not sure how, there are only 2 lanes with 2 large objects in each.
I wait for an on ramp.

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These threads always crack me up.

IF you want to see some real idiot drivers, drive a school bus. It absolutely amazes me how people disregard school buses.

I could write a book from what I just see on my morning route and it would double in size if I included all the things I see while traveling for sports.
I could only imagine what you see, last year some jack wagon in Floresville passed a stopped bus and struck a child getting on it .

It is always the same 7 or 8 people stirring the pot. I don't understand the rationale of coming on TBH to start chit. That "Sippy " thread took the cake though.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:35 AM   #135
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These threads just crack me up with MEN (lightly used term) thinking they need to get there 5 min. faster I like to just tap the brakes and get all worked up
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Honestly I'm usually with 5mph of the speed limit. It is aggravating how other drivers do sometimes but life is too short to get stressed over stuff like that. The speed limit at 75mph on the highways is enough. Past that my gas mileage suffers anyhow.

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All joking aside I'm usually +/- 5mph of the speed limit also. I try to get over when I can. But when someone jets up on my bumper giving me no time to get over I don't freak out and try to go faster trying to get out of their way. Those are the morons causing most of the wrecks.


On a side note. My favorite is the jack wagon that changes lanes 35 times trying to get one car length ahead with each lane change going down 183 (or any big road with lots of traffic lights and traffic). They never get more than a minute ahead of anyone else but yet they seem to not ever figure this out.
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Funny how attitudes change as you age. I'm more than happy to move over and let you by even if I'm driving the posted speed limit. Like my dad used to say. "I'd rather have that fool in front of me instead of behind me."
Dang good point! I have the same attitude. You want by, get by, and get away from me....

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Old 01-11-2018, 08:50 AM   #138
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These threads just crack me up with MEN (lightly used term) thinking they need to get there 5 min. faster I like to just tap the brakes and get all worked up


See I do the opposite. I just move over. I tell myself maybe they have a real life emergency where 5 minutes does absolutely matter. Are most people that come up on your bumper just impatient jerks? Probably, but I would hate for someone to miss saying goodbye to a loved one or something like that just so I could see them ďget all worked upĒ.


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This all comes down to common courtesy. I haul butt around. I stick in the far right lane as much as possible. I try to give people room when approaching them. I rarely get passed, however I am always cruising in the far right lane. If everyone would do their best to stay in far right lane, it would be remarkable how much easier it would be for everyone. Also, when going to pass someone, PASS them. Don't be afraid to give it a little throttle to get around.

Speed limits are archaic. They were designed around cars from the 60s & 70s. Those cars are total junk and not designed for high speeds. (I own one. I do NOT like to cruise at 75 in it). However, 2 of my road trip vehicles can cruise well at a high rate of speed NO PROBLEM. It helps they are german
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This type of thread makes me laugh.
The way I see it the main problem is that some people are to lazy to get up early enough to get to their destination on time without breaking the law. Someone driving the legal speed or slightly over that is passing a vehicle or group of vehicles should only be required to move over for emergency vehicles not someone that doesn’t know how to schedule their time or has disregard of the law.
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This type of thread makes me laugh.
The way I see it the main problem is that some people are to lazy to get up early enough to get to their destination on time without breaking the law. Someone driving the legal speed or slightly over that is passing a vehicle or group of vehicles should only be required to move over for emergency vehicles not someone that doesnít know how to schedule their time or has disregard of the law.
What about people that simply just drive faster then the norm and it has nothing to do with leaving late?
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:06 AM   #142
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Boom goes the Dynamite!
I'll see your "all vehicles keep to the right except to pass" sign and raise you this x1000. How about we all keep track of how many of each signs we see on our commutes today?


I guarantee you 10x more accidents happen because of speeders rather than people who don't go out of their way so other people can break the law.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:21 AM   #143
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This type of thread makes me laugh.
The way I see it the main problem is that some people are to lazy to get up early enough to get to their destination on time without breaking the law. Someone driving the legal speed or slightly over that is passing a vehicle or group of vehicles should only be required to move over for emergency vehicles not someone that doesnít know how to schedule their time or has disregard of the law.
I have a problem and I need help!! Iím early everywhere I go, religiously. There are days I MAKE myself leave even earlier so I can take my time and go the speed limit wherever Iím headed. It never fails though, I look down and Iím going 90 without even knowing it. At that point I give up and go back to my old ways!!


Atleast Iím trying!! LOL
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:24 AM   #144
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I'll pass you on the shoulder too.

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Which is why I throw my Dr pepper can at you as I go by.

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I jest. Honestly once your slow *** is out of the way I never look back.

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Honestly I'm usually with 5mph of the speed limit. It is aggravating how other drivers do sometimes but life is too short to get stressed over stuff like that. The speed limit at 75mph on the highways is enough. Past that my gas mileage suffers anyhow.

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You're all over the place, whats it gonna be? Full blown road rage or avoid stressing the small stuff?
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:27 AM   #145
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This thread does show who those people are that want to teach someone a lesson by driving the exact speed limit in the left lane. You are not the police if you want to be a traffic enforcer go join the state patrol or local law enforcement agency. In Germany if you were hit from behind in the left lane it was your fault. People would flash lights from a quarter of a mile away to let you know there coming. Just as people complain about speeders the ones that purposely sit in the left lane are the real jackwagons. Just move over, it's not that big of a deal.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:28 AM   #146
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Well when you have 2 trucks running 65 in a 75, see it on I20 out to Abilene often, it's just easier to go around them.

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Old 01-11-2018, 09:28 AM   #147
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At the end of the day, if I am passing a car do not fly up on my *** and I will move over for you when all is clear. If you fly up on my bumper like an *** hole, trying to intimidate me, then it typically doesn't go your way.

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Old 01-11-2018, 09:33 AM   #148
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Hereís a novel idea. If you donít have enough room/time to pass without impeding traffic, DONíT PASS. Regardless of speed. Be neighborly and wait until the left lane is clear. Like others have said, itís not your job to ensure everyone is going the speed limit.
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And I don't have road rage. I just turn on some music and relax. I run 35,000 plus miles a year. You can't get upset and do crazy stuff or bad stuff will happen. However when the semi trucks decide they are gonna be jerks and control traffic an on ramp is just like a passing lane. You also have to consider older folks sometimes adjust their speed back because of the changes age bring. They still have a right to travel. And they don't deserve to be abused by Jack wagons. I played around some on this thread but I also know things develop fast. Like a deer in the road or a retread in your lane. My family may not like me being gone so much but they do like me to make it home safe.

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Old 01-11-2018, 09:35 AM   #150
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Hereís a novel idea. If you donít have enough room/time to pass without impeding traffic, DONíT PASS. Regardless of speed. Be neighborly and wait until the left lane is clear. Like others have said, itís not your job to ensure everyone is going the speed limit.
I don't care if you're speeding by 10 or 50. If you don't run up on me, I'll get over.
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