TBH BLOOD DOG TRACKING, TRAINING, & RECOVERY Thread

[MySRT8U]

When is a good time to start blood trailing? Just got my gsp. She is 7 weeks this week

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by MySRT8U

When is a good time to start blood trailing?

Just got my gsp.

She is 7 weeks this week

That is one cute looking dog Jason!

I started working with my pup as soon as I got him at 8 weeks.

Do you have a deer hide in the freezer, or know someone that does?

[MySRT8U]

Originally Posted by TUCO

That is one cute looking dog Jason!



I started working with my pup as soon as I got him at 8 weeks.



Do you have a deer hide in the freezer, or know someone that does?

Thanks bud. I have a couple of axis hides

[Dirtymike]

I agree with you on most of it. She is worn out as much as I can wear her out in the morning. Do these things actually get worn out? the evening she is worn out and usually in the kennel with door open or at my feet piled up on my blanket. Popping her on the beak seems to work well for me. Not hurting her but it gets her attention an she don't like it. She stops the biting/chewing. I am not sure on shock collar either. I think she just needs time. But man when she starts howling at 2 am I sure wish I got give her a static charge of shut the heck up.

One thing I did with my pups that worked 15 years ago was peanut butter. Not to stop barking but to start basic behavior training. Started her with it last night and it worked well. Take a bit of peanut butter on your finger and let her smell it. She will try and get it instantly so I put my finger over her head an behind her. Her reaction is to sit an right before she does I say sit and then reward her with licking the peanut butter off my finger. When she bites she gets the finger taken away. She started realizing quick if she is calm an being gentle she gets te treats. She bites down and it's gone. Plus it takes her a long time to lick it off and the whole time I am telling we how good she is and petting her. See how her memory works tonight. Pretty sure I will have more scars before the night is over.

By all means there is a lot of sarcasm in my post. She ain't that bad. And it is fun. She has adapted to our little family better than I expected. But with that said my wife sent me a text letting me know she is sure Jenna was smoking crack today before she got home.

[jared_bays]

Originally Posted by JANSLEY817

This is some goof stuff. Just be cautious as it is not uncommon for it to give dogs diarrhea and nasty gas. I had to take my pup off of it.

I feel ya on the gas deal. Holy cow, I had no idea something that smelled so terrible could come out of such a small dog.

[AntlerCollector]

Sent mine to mans best friend. He will be there two weeks for obedience and leash training. I hope to get him back on blood tracking ASAP. Before I sent him to MBF I had my "pet deer"(he's free range, but thinks he's part of the family) walk through tall grass while I dropped small amounts of blood on the trail he was walking. I used very little blood because I wanted my dog to pick up on the deer smell. He did very well. When the blood ran out he still followed the path the deer had walked 30 minutes earlier. Had some venison at the end of the trail for him.

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by Dirtymike

I agree with you on most of it. She is worn out as much as I can wear her out in the morning. Do these things actually get worn out? the evening she is worn out and usually in the kennel with door open or at my feet piled up on my blanket. Popping her on the beak seems to work well for me. Not hurting her but it gets her attention an she don't like it. She stops the biting/chewing. I am not sure on shock collar either. I think she just needs time. But man when she starts howling at 2 am I sure wish I got give her a static charge of shut the heck up.

One thing I did with my pups that worked 15 years ago was peanut butter. Not to stop barking but to start basic behavior training. Started her with it last night and it worked well. Take a bit of peanut butter on your finger and let her smell it. She will try and get it instantly so I put my finger over her head an behind her. Her reaction is to sit an right before she does I say sit and then reward her with licking the peanut butter off my finger. When she bites she gets the finger taken away. She started realizing quick if she is calm an being gentle she gets te treats. She bites down and it's gone. Plus it takes her a long time to lick it off and the whole time I am telling we how good she is and petting her. See how her memory works tonight. Pretty sure I will have more scars before the night is over.

By all means there is a lot of sarcasm in my post. She ain't that bad. And it is fun. She has adapted to our little family better than I expected. But with that said my wife sent me a text letting me know she is sure Jenna was smoking crack today before she got home.

The description of your pup, and your experiences with her makes me laugh.

When they get a little older they don’t get any easier to deal with, they just get more stamina…..

And there is nothing for certain when it comes to working with puppies/dogs because they all have different personalities/temperaments. I am just relaying what I have experienced. With the Catahoula I have now, if you swat him on the muzzle, he thinks you are raising the level of play, so he comes back at you with a vengeance. As far as learning obedience commands, using treats is the way to go I believe.

The pup I have now picks up on things very quickly, and often times he tries to manipulate the situation if it is not to his liking. He really wants to please, but he tests the limits set for him as he gets older. Just like a teenager, he pushes the envelope to see what he can get away with.

And I still have battle scars from when I would roughhouse with my pup a little too much the first few weeks I had him. He tore my forearms up with those sharp little teeth.

I'm pretty sure that not one of us would trade their pup for another. No matter how mischievous they have been.....

[Chew]

Daisy had a bunch of shots today and is very sore. She yelped when I picked her up. I missed our evening walk/run tonight.

I hear ya'll about the attitude, sharp teeth, independence. Any clues on how to get one to quit chasing the cat? She just wants to play with the cat but cat thinks it's life or death. =)

[Dirtymike]

Chew get your cat a kennel, my daughters weenie dog never like his kennel. Would pee on himself as soon as you would show him one. ( rescue dog) anyhow now that Jenna has come in the house the dude LOVES his kennel. He knows he is safe in there. It's funny cause he hated it for so long now uses it for a place to protect his rear while he can defend the front.

Tuco I was hoping you would say she would grow out of it. and settle down.

Have any of y'all ever seen a dog tackle or chest bump? She will wait till boudin is not looking. Then come running full speed jump and slam her chest into him. It's funny to watch but rather violent as the little weenie dog gets rolled and has had his breath knocked out of him. Never seen a dog do this before. If I see her getting ready to do it I have to let the poor dude know now cause I feel bad for him.

Antler you lucky to have a willing wild deer to cooperate with your deer tracking. That is awesome! You think he or she will stick around when gets older?

[TexasBear]

Originally Posted by Dirtymike

Chew get your cat a kennel, my daughters weenie dog never like his kennel. Would pee on himself as soon as you would show him one. ( rescue dog) anyhow now that Jenna has come in the house the dude LOVES his kennel. He knows he is safe in there. It's funny cause he hated it for so long now uses it for a place to protect his rear while he can defend the front.

Tuco I was hoping you would say she would grow out of it. and settle down.

Have any of y'all ever seen a dog tackle or chest bump? She will wait till boudin is not looking. Then come running full speed jump and slam her chest into him. It's funny to watch but rather violent as the little weenie dog gets rolled and has had his breath knocked out of him. Never seen a dog do this before. If I see her getting ready to do it I have to let the poor dude know now cause I feel bad for him.

Antler you lucky to have a willing wild deer to cooperate with your deer tracking. That is awesome! You think he or she will stick around when gets older?

I have a boxer that used to do the chest/shoulder bump with me. He would get about a ten yard run and then jump to me and turn sideways hitting me about chest high on my right arm with his left shoulder. Crazy dog. I have been working on him not jumping at all because I am worried it will catch up to him in a year or two.

[MySRT8U]

I gotta get her out in the woods soon. She's turning into a couch potato already lol

[deerslayer64d]

Originally Posted by MySRT8U

I gotta get her out in the woods soon. She's turning into a couch potato already lol

Cam is Definitely a couch potato ! But I Draw the line at letting her watch the crap that's on TV nowadays

[TUCO]

I stopped by the local feed store a few days back and came across a handy little Item for laying down a mock blood trail. They are lamb nipples made to put on the end of a bottle.

I have used the one on the left and it works really well. The black one just slips over the end of any small bottle, and the yellow one screws on to a plastic coke bottle. It will not fit on a water bottle because of the rim below the threads.

I use a plastic bottle so I can squeeze it, and regulate how much blood I put out on the trail. It works really well.

[lovemylegacy]

Originally Posted by jared_bays

Thanks a bunch. He's definitely HI-OCTANE.







I got him from fowlwaters here on the GS. I think he is from the Liberty/Dayton area. I really dig Mickey's short stubby legs and bulky frame. Truthfully, I haven't taught him anything, its all instinct. I think he's gonna turn out pretty good. Or at least do what I want anyway.

That's one of Teebows sons! Larry and I bred our dogs together and Mickey was one of the results....sounds as if he is built just like his dad.

[lovemylegacy]

Originally Posted by Ricky T

Hey, Jared, here's Mickey's brother, Gunner. He was the little male runt out of the litter you got Mickey from. High Octane also, but smart as a whip. He scent trailed okay the first couple times but now he knows there's food at the end and just goes running downwind scenting for the food. I'm gonna have to get innovative with the trails. Just doing damage control most of the time now.

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HEY! That's one of Teebows babies. Larry and I bred Lizzy and Teebow (in the Academy parking lot). Nice pups, game for sure!

[JANSLEY817]

http://youtu.be/P4JirbXOz7Q

hopefully I did this right. This is my little guy searching for his dinner. His food bowl is hidden behind the blue trash can. I made a trail with deer blood to it.

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by JANSLEY817

http://youtu.be/P4JirbXOz7Q

hopefully I did this right. This is my little guy searching for his dinner. His food bowl is hidden behind the blue trash can. I made a trail with deer blood to it.

That pup was working his nose!

He even barked when he couldn't get to the food. He must have been excited!

[JANSLEY817]

Im hoping I can keep him where he barks when he finds the "prize."

[JAGR]

Cool thread. Tuned in.

[bloodtrailer28]

Very cool thread! New to the forum and to the thread. Great looking pups yall got!! I will be looking for one after Christmas. Lost my cat/heeler mix this year after 11 years. Hardest loss I have been through yet.

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by JANSLEY817

I'm hoping I can keep him where he barks when he finds the "prize."

The dogs I have seen work would not bark if they found the deer dead.

They would only bark if they found the deer still alive.

It would be nice to get the dog to bark either way.

[AggieArcher]

Agreed Tuco^ Mine wont bark either

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by bloodtrailer28

Very cool thread!

New to the forum and to the thread.

Great looking pups yall got!!

I will be looking for one after Christmas.

Lost my cat/heeler mix this year after 11 years. Hardest loss I have been through yet.

Welcome to TBH!

Sorry to hear about your dog.

You might contact Steve_243.

He raises some great NALC registered Catahoula’s.

Shoot him a pm and see if he thinks he might possibly have some pups after x-mas.

You might want to get on a pick list for the next litter.

You can do a search of some of his threads, and check out his dogs and pups.

[hoyt21]

Originally Posted by TUCO

Welcome to TBH!

Sorry to hear about your dog.

You might contact Steve_243.

He raises some great NALC registered Catahoula’s.

Shoot him a pm and see if he thinks he might possibly have some pups after x-mas.

You might want to get on a pick list for the next litter.

You can do a search of some of his threads, and check out his dogs and pups.

X2 on great looking pups will be getting one when red needs a gf

[bloodtrailer28]

Originally Posted by TUCO

Welcome to TBH!

Sorry to hear about your dog.

You might contact Steve_243.

He raises some great NALC registered Catahoula’s.familt him a pm and see if he thinks he might possibly have some pups after x-mas.

You might want to get on a pick list for the next litter.

You can do a search of some of his threads, and check out his dogs and pups.

Thanks for the welcome man much appreciated. Yea was a very tough loss had her from a pup and spent pretty much every day with her. Watched over my family when I wasn't there. Thank you for the info on a pup! Really love the color combination of you pup TUCO and would love to find one like that. I will definitely be sending him a pm.

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by bloodtrailer28

Thanks for the welcome man much appreciated.

Thank you for the info on a pup! Really love the color combination of you pup TUCO and would love to find one like that.

I will definitely be sending him a pm.

Steve has the brother to my pup so that might work out well for you.

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=464776




And the other pup you liked (ds64d's pup), is from Steve's last litter.

[MySRT8U]

Anyone ever used this stuff? I don't have any deer blood

[AntlerCollector]

Originally Posted by MySRT8U

Anyone ever used this stuff? I don't have any deer blood

Interesting for sure. I may give it a try. It says for use with his system. Guess I gotta go to the website and see what else he's selling with it.

[MySRT8U]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Interesting for sure. I may give it a try. It says for use with his system. Guess I gotta go to the website and see what else he's selling with it.

They had his "kit" at bass pro. All it was, was a bottle of that stuff and a fake antler. For $40. I have tons of sheds so I just bought the track stuff for $8

[MySRT8U]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Interesting for sure. I may give it a try. It says for use with his system. Guess I gotta go to the website and see what else he's selling with it.

They had his "kit" at bass pro. All it was, was a bottle of that stuff and a fake antler. For $40. I have tons of sheds so I just bought the track stuff for $8

[sabreguy]

Originally Posted by MySRT8U

I gotta get her out in the woods soon. She's turning into a couch potato already lol

lol cool pic

[jared_bays]

Originally Posted by MySRT8U

Anyone ever used this stuff? I don't have any deer blood

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Interesting for sure. I may give it a try. It says for use with his system. Guess I gotta go to the website and see what else he's selling with it.

I bought a bottle of the blood scent and 2 of the 8"x8" deer hides. Seems to work pretty good. That said, I've only used it for a couple of mock trails.

[AntlerCollector]

Got a buddy in the Houston area giving these pups away. Leopard/Cur mix. 2 male 2 female. PM me if your willing to pick up one or all

[bloodtrailer28]

Originally Posted by TUCO

Steve has the brother to my pup so that might work out well for you.

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=464776

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And the other pup you liked (ds64d's pup), is from Steve's last litter.

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That would be awesome. Great looking pups!

[Dirtymike]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Got a buddy in the Houston area giving these pups away. Leopard/Cur mix. 2 male 2 female. PM me if your willing to pick up one or all

ask 200 and then mark down 2 100. be gone quick When giving a dog away they seem to go slower.

[hoyt21]

Recent of red getting big,smart, and defiant at times lol

[TUCO]

Originally Posted by hoyt21

Recent of red getting big,smart, and defiant at times lol

That is a great photo AD.

He is getting BIG!

[hoyt21]

Yea a BIG baby lol, will be home on the 5th of Aug. Hoping to get down to sam canes and get some blood and the fun will start

[JANSLEY817]

http://youtu.be/rBsLnuv2DUA?list=UU7...7nTM_Tzf82YlaA

another short little trail we did yesterday. I think its time for us to go do some longer harder ones.

[Dirtymike]

red sure is pretty. Do you ever get asked if he is a pit? I get it none stop. I had a guy at petsmart last night tell me I been lied to. He knows all about dogs and been raising pits his whole live and can gaurantee you my jenna is a pit. I just laughed and said ok, have a good one sir.

Oh and how I can relaite to the defiant part. She has become comfortable at our home. Started learning simple commands and boundries, then bam.... all the sudden crack head pup is back. Tell her no and she gives you a look like whos gonna stop me then attacks the baseboards again. Next day a total angle. Women... I tell you

[Dirtymike]

Any suggestions for puppy basic training books. Not wanting a lot of commentary about why to train this way or another or what breed does what, why a puppy chews..... bla bla bla, want a simple maybe step by step, week by week training program. What commands to start with first, them move to this next command on 2nd week, week 3 work on this and so on. My schedule does not allow to go to a training class with her. I have plenty of time to work with her and she is responding to the training i am doing. However I feel she has more to offer than my training skills can provide.

[Tex]

Go to YouTube and search Dog Training by K9-1. They have all the phase 1 training videos in order. Depending on the dog you may be able to knock several of them out in one week. Just go at the pace the dog allows.

[Texas Tracker]

Dirtymike most pups will only hold their attention for maybe 30 mins. Don't try to work you pup to long or you are just wasting your time with them.

[medic911]

One of these 2 little guys will be coming home to me next week. I can't wait to start training.

[Dirtymike]

Never thought about YouTube . Great idea.

And 10-4 on attention span. This girl is ADD for sure.

[Ballcoach10]

Originally Posted by MySRT8U

Anyone ever used this stuff? I don't have any deer blood

This is the kit that I started kimber on until I could get real blood from a deer. It gave a scent is it worked fine I believe. She loved the deer hide , it served as a great driving force for the end of the trail

Our dogs look similar lol

[Old Bald Guy]

My pup Sadie after something. Not sure what, but something.

[MySRT8U]

Did y'all start your pups out on a leash or just lay a trail and let them go? I laid a trail down and put a shed at the end of it. Bailey didn't seem too interested in it. My 2 year old Weimar that had 0 training however, hit the trail immediately and found the shed no problem.

[Steve_243]

New puppy to add to my stable of biscuit hounds. Calling him Bleau Bayou. 8 weeks old and ready to get started on blood.

[Chew]

He's a beauty Steve. Congrats!