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Old 12-27-2017, 10:43 AM   #1
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Is there such a thing?

Very interesting article and idea:
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In order to determine whether more fawns could be produced by keeping coyotes away, a large fence was erected at a research facility in Georgia. This 10-year study involved the construction of a fence around a 98-acre area that provided good fawning habitat for whitetails. The fence was four feet tall and buried deep within the ground, preventing coyotes from going over or under it. GPS collars on subject deer showed that does quickly learned to go into this coyote exclusion area to avoid predation and have their fawns.

This study showed two predictable results over 10 years. First, the number of fawns that made it to reproductive age significantly increased. Second, hunting success also increased in and near the exclusion area.
link to article: https://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2...unting-part-1/



Another article and different method of laying fence to prevent coyotes from entering/exiting a property:
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“Coyotes are omnivores, which means they will eat almost anything. One research project in Texas showed that predators, primarily coyotes were responsible for 60 percent of all fawn deaths in one year.”

Without question, deer losses such as this represent a significant financial setback and huge damage in a wildlife management program.

There are several ways to control these predators.

The use of predator wire can help greatly in this matter. Quality ranch fence materials will come in a 26-inch-wide net wire that can be laid on the ground and attached to the bottom of the 8-foot fence with hog-proof fence rings.

Turf staples can be used to secure the wire to the ground if the soil is not rocky. This is 99% effective to keep coyotes from digging under the fence. It also keeps the coyotes inside the high fence from getting out. Usually an intense coyote hunting needs to take place by someone that is qualified after the wire is installed.
link to article: http://tejasranchfence.com/protect-d...ion-predators/
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:49 AM   #2
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GPS collars on subject deer showed that does quickly learned to go into this coyote exclusion area to avoid predation and have their fawns.

If you build it, they will come
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:00 AM   #3
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Lots of sheep ranches bury a fence "skirt" around perimeter fences. It works well.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:25 AM   #4
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I haven't seen any fawns on my place for the past few years. I do have to many coyotes saw a pack of 4 the other day on the way to my stand. I know they are killing fawns. Studies show coyotes have between 5 -7 pups in February and in May when the fawns are born they are hunting for food for their young. Coyotes killed in may-June have been found to contain 38% fawns in their stomachs. Got a gc300 predator call for Christmas so yoties are fixing to get hammered.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:28 AM   #5
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If I ever build another high fence I will have the perimeter trenced 2' deep. From there I will build the 8' fence at the normal ground level then come back in with 4' of net wire, 2' above and 2' below ground. You will never keep 100% of them out but this would keep a lot out.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:30 AM   #6
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What I meant to say was that my neighbor builds game fences and lays 5 ft hog wire flat and builds the fence on it and then covers it with dirt so coyotes can't dig under it.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:35 AM   #7
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A friend of mine's property was formerly owned by a guy who raised meat goats. There are two pens of about an acre each that he fenced to keep coyotes out - it is pretty overgrown now with brush and tall grass. It is remarkable how many does hop that fence to drop their fawns. In early summer we always see fawns running around in there before they grow big enough to jump out.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:43 AM   #8
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They can crawl up a couple fett and thru a 6" spacing on 8' netwire fences.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:48 AM   #9
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I don't think a 4ft fence would keep any predator out, especially a coyote! They can jump over that!
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:00 PM   #10
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A coyotes not above learning to climb a fence, I've seen pics of them going over a 8' deer fence, might want to add a few hot wires to the outside of this new fence also.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:24 PM   #11
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I haven't seen any fawns on my place for the past few years. I do have to many coyotes saw a pack of 4 the other day on the way to my stand. I know they are killing fawns. Studies show coyotes have between 5 -7 pups in February and in May when the fawns are born they are hunting for food for their young. Coyotes killed in may-June have been found to contain 38% fawns in their stomachs. Got a gc300 predator call for Christmas so yoties are fixing to get hammered.

I’m in the same situation as you.
I’ve seen ZERO fawns the past three years. Terrible coyote problem. And I’m willing to try anything to help the deer out. This fence sounds like something I will seriously consider.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:37 PM   #12
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I know some of y'all live away from where you hunt deer, but if you're close enough you can put a whoopin on those yotes with a dozen traps. Coyotes are not too hard to catch, especially in the winter when times get tough for them. As soon as muzzleloader season is over, or I put another deer in the freezer, I'm about to get after them myself.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:42 PM   #13
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I know some of y'all live away from where you hunt deer, but if you're close enough you can put a whoopin on those yotes with a dozen traps. Coyotes are not too hard to catch, especially in the winter when times get tough for them. As soon as muzzleloader season is over, or I put another deer in the freezer, I'm about to get after them myself.

I got about a dozen MB-550’s and am trying! First year trapper here, haven’t got a yote yet, but did manage to get a nice sized bobcat.
Again, doing everything in my power to help fawn recruitment!
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Old 12-28-2017, 02:59 PM   #14
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good luck keeping pigs or coyotes in or out!
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:09 PM   #15
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IF you find where they dig under the fence put a SNARE at the spot it works
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:24 PM   #16
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I don't think a 4ft fence would keep any predator out, especially a coyote! They can jump over that!
I have fawns in my fenced good plot every year.
I couldn’t keep a coyote or hog in, but it will keep them out.
The does and fawns love the deep grass. It has trees for shade and water.
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:44 PM   #17
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I have fawns in my fenced good plot every year.
I couldn’t keep a coyote or hog in, but it will keep them out.
The does and fawns love the deep grass. It has trees for shade and water.
What kind of fence is it?
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:57 PM   #18
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Here is a tip learned from a fellow deer breeder. This was instituted after a pack of coyotes tunneled under a predator apron (as described above) and got into the breeder pens. I am sure you can imagine the damage they can do in a pen.


Revenge was desired in a bad way. They were prepared to poison, shoot from helicopters, you name it..... It was advised to do the following and it works great.

Go to Walmart and buy about 20 of the 2”x18”x18” foam seat cushions. Just the replacement foam

Cut it into 3x3 or 3x4” squares.

Melt some good old fashion Manteca in a pot. More is better

Soak up all the Manteca with the foam squares

Put 3 or 4 squares at each crossing under the fence

Coyotes will eat the foam and then plug up

The coyotes will clean up the bait quickly and the results happen fast.

No evidence of collateral targets. Just watch your own pets if they are out.
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:53 PM   #19
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Some of the areas in Texas with very high deer numbers also have very high coyote numbers.
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Old 12-29-2017, 06:09 PM   #20
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Melt some good old fashion Manteca in a pot.
I had to look up what Manteca was. I have never heard of that.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:21 PM   #21
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What kind of fence is it?
40” Woven wire graduated from small to large
I put it down right on the ground and stretched It tight. one strand of barb wire along the top to keep cows out.
I debated a strand of barbed wire along the ground, but was tired of fencing and didn’t. two plots later, no crossings by critters yet, especially not pigs!
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:24 PM   #22
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The best fence that I’ve seen for keeping varmints from going thru up in mid-fence is 4x4 square netwire. A new good tight fence will keep a lot of animals from going under the bottom wire for a while, especially hogs, a bottom strand of barbwire will make it longer, a little maintenance adds more time.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:40 PM   #23
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Here is a tip learned from a fellow deer breeder. This was instituted after a pack of coyotes tunneled under a predator apron (as described above) and got into the breeder pens. I am sure you can imagine the damage they can do in a pen.


Revenge was desired in a bad way. They were prepared to poison, shoot from helicopters, you name it..... It was advised to do the following and it works great.

Go to Walmart and buy about 20 of the 2”x18”x18” foam seat cushions. Just the replacement foam

Cut it into 3x3 or 3x4” squares.

Melt some good old fashion Manteca in a pot. More is better

Soak up all the Manteca with the foam squares

Put 3 or 4 squares at each crossing under the fence

Coyotes will eat the foam and then plug up

The coyotes will clean up the bait quickly and the results happen fast.

No evidence of collateral targets. Just watch your own pets if they are out.
Trying this thanks
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Old 12-30-2017, 04:46 PM   #24
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Trying this thanks
You will find the victims near water.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:30 PM   #25
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Trying this thanks


^^^Same here

So is this the Manteca product suggested?
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:45 PM   #26
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Yep. Mexican Lard. It smells better than Crisco
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:31 PM   #27
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Would this work on coon?
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:37 PM   #28
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Would this work on coon?
Only one way to find out.
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:06 AM   #29
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I’ll let you know Deer hunting till 2/10 then those d@)( coons must die
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:16 AM   #30
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good to know!
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