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Old 09-22-2019, 09:49 AM   #1
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My son wants to shoot this for his 1st bow kill. Iím thinking heís not wide enough. This is the best picture I have at the moment, I have other pictures of him but his ears in the other ones are laid back also or heís at the wrong angle. Name:  IMG_0969-compressed.jpg
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:07 AM   #2
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Let your son shoot him. 13 1/16
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:10 AM   #3
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I think he’s good to go.
But then again its not MY son shooting him.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:23 AM   #4
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:26 AM   #5
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He's legal. CHOOT!!!
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:50 AM   #6
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Even if it’s not legal an expert in court would side with you and say that it’s an older deer that is tall and narrow and you would be fine.
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:35 AM   #7
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Let that young man get er done. Good luck to him.
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:38 AM   #8
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Close. I guess 13.5Ē
How wide was your avatar.?
What county!

Iíd let my daughter shoot him.
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Old 09-22-2019, 01:22 PM   #9
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I believe he will make it.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:07 PM   #10
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I think he will be legal
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:57 PM   #11
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I bet he's wider than you think. Probably 13.75"-14". I would let my son shoot him.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:12 PM   #12
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Knock him down
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:21 PM   #13
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Even if itís not legal an expert in court would side with you and say that itís an older deer that is tall and narrow and you would be fine.
Lmfao. You have got to be kidding me.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:57 PM   #14
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Even if itís not legal an expert in court would side with you and say that itís an older deer that is tall and narrow and you would be fine.
The law has nothing to do with age. Heís legal. Let your son shoot him if he has the opportunity.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:06 PM   #15
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Shoot if he’s not legal, screenshot this thread and tell the judge, all the experts where in agreement that he would make 13”
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:11 PM   #16
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Me included, I’m thinking at least 13.5”
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:14 PM   #17
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Even if itís not legal an expert in court would side with you and say that itís an older deer that is tall and narrow and you would be fine.
Going from your avatar, only four people like you/you them as you have given your other acquaintances legal advice. What good does it do for an "expert in court" to side with you? You need the trier of fact to side with you.

To the OP, don't hire an expert on how to use a tape measure. . . have your son evaluate and shoot.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:21 PM   #18
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Just from that one picture I would say he will make 13
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Old 09-22-2019, 07:29 PM   #19
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I bet he would be worth a ground check.


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Old 09-22-2019, 10:05 PM   #20
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200% a shooter.
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:01 PM   #21
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Legal. Good luck to your son!
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:46 AM   #22
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He is legal
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:05 AM   #23
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Im guessing hes legal! Whack him!
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:20 AM   #24
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Green Light
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:35 AM   #25
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I would green light him, too. Show us the LDP next weekend!
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:37 AM   #26
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Looks like he is 13+
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:46 AM   #27
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Even if itís not legal an expert in court would side with you and say that itís an older deer that is tall and narrow and you would be fine.
Not.

Prosecutor: Mr. Expert, is this deer legal according to TPWD regulations?

Expert: No

Prosecutor: No further questions.

I think this one is good to go though.
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:00 AM   #28
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Shoot if heís not legal, screenshot this thread and tell the judge, all the experts where in agreement that he would make 13Ē
haha that's what I was thinking
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:35 AM   #29
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Just bring an enerpac for safe measure.
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:04 PM   #30
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Whatever you decide, you are influencing your son and his future decisions.

If the buck measures 12 3/4",

How will your son feel?
Will he think it's an illegal deer?
Will he think it's ok to shoot illegal deer in the future?
What will his friends think?
Will he/you want to mount an illegal deer?
etc

Bottom line, we/you need better pics. Evidently you have some concern because you requested opinions from the G/S

Good luck to your son
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:29 PM   #31
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I think he is 13 1/2"
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:56 PM   #32
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He looks legal on my phone
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:58 PM   #33
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I say yes!
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:42 PM   #34
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I’d say he’s probably 14” inside. I’m a big fan of letting bucks get a little age under their belt and maintaining healthy herds, but if it isn’t legal for a kid to shoot that deer (especially with a bow) something is wrong with the regs. That’s not a half bad buck. I’d be tickled to get him with a bow.

Kids ought to be able to drop the hammer. We’re losing enough hunters as is, need to make it fun for the kids.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:56 PM   #35
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I shot one similar to that and he’s wider than you think. Guessed mine at 14 and he was 17! I’m guessing that one is closer to 14-15 but fooling you
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:37 AM   #36
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Hereís another picture. My son is 16 & has only killed one deer. That was when he 10 shot him with a boom stick. So his real excited to bow hunt this year. Name:  IMG_1951-compressed.jpg
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:46 AM   #37
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He is legal
No doubt.

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Old 09-25-2019, 10:50 AM   #38
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Itís greatest inside spread of the deer unlike the mass measurement . You get the largest inside measurement. The bucks with the beams that turn in make them look not as wide but you have to look at that inside bend of his beams. And he is definitely over 13 closer to over 14 probably.


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Old 09-25-2019, 10:56 AM   #39
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Hereís another picture. My son is 16 & has only killed one deer. That was when he 10 shot him with a boom stick. So his real excited to bow hunt this year. Attachment 973739


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pic is ideal position, except the ears are a little low yet alert ... using this pic I would not shoot. Is slightly under or right at the 13 mark. Then again, are every deer's ears the same size??
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Old 09-25-2019, 11:41 AM   #40
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Whatever you decide, you are influencing your son and his future decisions.

If the buck measures 12 3/4",

How will your son feel?
Will he think it's an illegal deer?
Will he think it's ok to shoot illegal deer in the future?
What will his friends think?
Will he/you want to mount an illegal deer?
etc

Bottom line, we/you need better pics. Evidently you have some concern because you requested opinions from the G/S

Good luck to your son
^^This.
What happens when he measures under 13"? Opportunity for a valuable life lesson right there. Will you Keep the secret between the 2 of you? Call the GW?

And going off your 2nd pic, I would not shoot.
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Old 09-25-2019, 09:48 PM   #41
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close call and a hard one to make with a child involved.
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:02 PM   #42
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Is it worth the risk for you? If it turns out it’s not legal, you have to choose between calling a game warden and probably having his trophy confiscated and citations issued, or doing something illegal and likely influencing his behavior in the future. I think the buck is probably legal, but I’d have a hard time drawing back on him.
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:05 PM   #43
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let him walk and try next year.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:04 AM   #44
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I believe weíll let him walk thereís, a few more out there. Now the problem is both my boys are fighting over this one. My 12yr put him on he hit list last year & now my 16yr say if he sees him he poking him. Iíve already told my 16yr that his brother called that deer last so..... Heíll have to pick another one.


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Old 09-26-2019, 03:45 PM   #45
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I've always used the thought that if you have to ask the answer is no. It's possible that I've missed out on a lot of nice bucks, but at the end of the day I can sleep well knowing I did the right thing either way.
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Old 09-26-2019, 03:46 PM   #46
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:42 PM   #47
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If you base a mature deer head at a 6" width (small IMO) he's legal.

Take this for face value.

36 px = 6"
105/36 = 2.92
2.92x6= 17.52

This would put him at 17.5" (There's are rough numbers, lines have slight overlap.)
Disclaimer I do not think he's 17.5"
Personally I think he's bigger than you think. I'd put him at 15.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:53 PM   #48
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Looks to me like he is a 5.5 year old deer almost a15” spread and will score about 140
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:55 PM   #49
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How wide was the buck in your avatar? At least 14?
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:18 PM   #50
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I believe weíll let him walk thereís, a few more out there. Now the problem is both my boys are fighting over this one. My 12yr put him on he hit list last year & now my 16yr say if he sees him he poking him. Iíve already told my 16yr that his brother called that deer last so..... Heíll have to pick another one.


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is this a different deer in this pic than OP ??
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