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Old 05-18-2019, 05:14 PM   #1
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Default Dove field, sesame

So Thursday it finally dried up enough north of Pleasanton to get my dove field drilled with sesame. I intended to do it on the 9th, but It was too wet and muddy. Likely would have clogged up the grain drill so bad that the seeds wouldn't have even made it out of the machine.
Yesterday I got it sprayed with a mixture of Dual Magnum and Roundup to kill the nutsedge and assorted weeds that came up after disking, and to prevent other weeds from sprouting.
I bought a 50 lb sack of sesame seed, the shattering type, from Pogue Seed in Kenedy over a month ago. It was literally the last bag they had when I called. $300
This is in about a 10-acre field. So, it should be about five pounds per acre.
My neighbor across the county road planted the seed for me. I asked him to do about one and a half, to 2 foot row spacing, if possible. He said it would be similar to planting ryegrass, with the seed size, but he didn't know about the row spacing, but would figure something out. I haven't been down there since he planted but hopefully we'll get down there next week.
I went with sesame as I was informed on this site that dove really love it, and I also read that deer don't browse it and that hogs don't bother with it too much, either.
I had originally intended to do sunflower, but I found out that deer really love to eat it when it's young and tender. And they will wipe out a whole field of it.
I'll post updates on this thread from time to time.
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I hunt commercially grown sesame further south than you.

Yes, the dove do like it.

Your application rate seems low, but once again, the stuff I hunt is for harvest, not hunting.
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We call it dove crack! Makes for some great shoots.
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Old 05-18-2019, 05:33 PM   #4
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I hunt commercially grown sesame further south than you.

Yes, the dove do like it.

Your application rate seems low, but once again, the stuff I hunt is for harvest, not hunting.
I was basing the seeding rate off of this chart.
Depending on how the field does this year, I will adjust up or down on rate. It is based in Florida, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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I was basing the seeding rate off of this chart.
Depending on how the field does this year, I will adjust up or down on rate. It is based in Florida, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Interesting info. I was just basing this off the yield and spacing I see in the fields we hunt. It is impressive and you can have a snack while hunting.
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I think this is my sesame coming up. The Dual Magnum didn't get "rained in", and the nutsedge is also sprouting. Hopefully it will be thin.
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I think it may be a little close, too.
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:37 AM   #8
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Got a little over 2 inches of rain last night.
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Those weeds in the foreground are in the bar ditch.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:38 AM   #10
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Good job getting your seed in. Sesame can get fairly bushy and since it's a shattering variety the seeds will drop without having to shred. That is pretty thick and doves will have a hard time landing between rows. Probably would have been better to block every other row on drill. Keep us posted on the growth. I broadcasted mine in a mix right before heavy rains.
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Good job getting your seed in. Sesame can get fairly bushy and since it's a shattering variety the seeds will drop without having to shred. That is pretty thick and doves will have a hard time landing between rows. Probably would have been better to block every other row on drill. Keep us posted on the growth. I broadcasted mine in a mix right before heavy rains.
Yeah, I asked for wider row spacing. I guess he just blocked every other drop. I couldn't be there when he planted.
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If all goes well you should have a field that produces lots and lots of birds!
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Old 06-03-2019, 11:58 AM   #13
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As that stuff matures, the plant really dries up and there is a lot of room for birds to land on the rows. The biggest problem wont be how close the plants are together, its how dirty you let the field get with weeds and grass. If you keep the rows clean there wont be a problem at all. Sesame is the best stuff you can plant for dove, its better than sunflowers, and it holds birds from the early season until the late season.
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As that stuff matures, the plant really dries up and there is a lot of room for birds to land on the rows. The biggest problem wont be how close the plants are together, its how dirty you let the field get with weeds and grass. If you keep the rows clean there wont be a problem at all. Sesame is the best stuff you can plant for dove, its better than sunflowers, and it holds birds from the early season until the late season.
Anxious to see how much effect the Dual Magnum will have on the weeds, since there is obviously some sedge coming up. I can spray Poast if grass starts getting thick. Or I can break out the hoe.
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how much did 50 lbs of sesame cost you
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:51 AM   #16
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how much did 50 lbs of sesame cost you
$300
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Old 06-24-2019, 11:49 PM   #18
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That is looking great! Congrats. Weird how there is some gaps. Will be good for dove to land in those open areas. You will be amazed at how many hummingbirds will work those sesame flowers later in the summer. Weeds don't look too bad in there, dual mag did a fairly good job
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That is looking great! Congrats. Weird how there is some gaps. Will be good for dove to land in those open areas. You will be amazed at how many hummingbirds will work those sesame flowers later in the summer. Weeds don't look too bad in there, dual mag did a fairly good job
Yeah, I began to realize that about the weeds after I made the vid. They aren't all that bad

I think the gaps may be caused by the seed going to deep(?). What I've read, the sprout can't get through very heavy crust.

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Wow!! That looks great!
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Sesame looking awesome. Congrats
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The hay Grazer is really dominating the Sesame, now. I am surprised at how fast it came up. If I had realized it was going to grow that much, I would have got the field sprayed with something to kill that grass.
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Something peculiar is going on in this little patch. Although, this is the only spot I saw that was like this. The Dual Magnum (I don't know why I said Poast) is a pre-emergent herbicide, so that was just a wild guess.

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Old 08-03-2019, 01:16 PM   #26
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That is johnson grass that has taken over. In the future use a clethodim product and it will only kill grass plants and not the sesame. The sesame has a very long tap root on it so it's weird how some is wilting and other plants fine. My sesame got drowned out by the millets in the mix I planted. My sunflower patch is looking good though
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I guess nobody plants croton anymore? Dove really chow down on these little seeds.
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I guess nobody plants croton anymore? Dove really chow down on these little seeds.
I didn't know anyone planted croton.
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That is johnson grass that has taken over. In the future use a clethodim product and it will only kill grass plants and not the sesame. The sesame has a very long tap root on it so it's weird how some is wilting and other plants fine. My sesame got drowned out by the millets in the mix I planted. My sunflower patch is looking good though
What 'model' sunflower is that? Hopefully they cure before season.....
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What 'model' sunflower is that? Hopefully they cure before season.....
Mycogen NuSun Clearfield hybrids. They are drooping down now and drying rapidly. Already dove in it eating the few weed seeds that made. Millet plot to east of there was doing great and full of seed. Dang hogs came thru in one night and trampled the whole thing. I guess the corn buffets I set up for them aren't enuff
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Mycogen NuSun Clearfield hybrids. They are drooping down now and drying rapidly. Already dove in it eating the few weed seeds that made. Millet plot to east of there was doing great and full of seed. Dang hogs came thru in one night and trampled the whole thing. I guess the corn buffets I set up for them aren't enuff
I saw a few places in the sesame where the hogs had bedded, but no real damage. No rooting.
Were they eating the millet?
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Yes. It was Japanese, foxtail and brown top and they were eating the heck of it. The seed heads were just beginning to ripen. I had hybrid sorghum stalks not headed out yet but they flattened all of them to the ground. My sunflowers are behind electric fences but I don't think it will keep hogs away. Already have pics of a piglet walking around in there at night
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As of today, it has been 99 days since the sesame was planted. My brother walked in the field today and said about 10% of the total plants are dried and dropping seed. He said the rest are still green and limber.
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Haven't really had significant rain since June.
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Man you got a great spot there...Still trying to get me some dove...Never worked so hard for 2 birds last season. Lol
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114 days since planting. Brother said "most" plants are dried down, but pods aren't popping open just yet.
Need some cool weather for the birds.
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Makes me wonder if they sold the shattering variety or not. If dried down they should be popping. Mine is still green
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Well, my brother's opinion of dried down isn't exactly dried down. I have brown pods and greenish stems. But the birds are coming in.
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Bumping this to the top for a top shelf quality TBH’r and a sweet spot to kill dove.
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Thanks.
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Well, my brother's opinion of dried down isn't exactly dried down. I have brown pods and greenish stems.
121 days since planting.
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Do u have any pics of plants/pods? Can't believe the pods aren't shattering after 122 days
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I'll take a few tomorrow. I took some a while back but the files were too big to upload so I didn't screw them.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:10 AM   #48
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Thanks for posting videos. Looks really good. Those pods are what my non shattering sesame looked like last year. The top would open a bit and that's it and the majority of seed stayed in pod. I will be interested to see if those pods continue to open more thus releasing seed. If they don't they sold you non shattering. Thanks for update
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