$5M is a rounding error. Who cares what he makes? Win, or hit the road. He's got two more years to do so.
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Agree............in 2 years.Originally posted by Chase This! View Post
Problem is $20MM isn't a rounding error. I don't think you should fire Sumlin but I also don't think you have a choice. Most termination penalties are paid over time. The powers that be that negotiated Sumlins contract agreed to pay the entire buyout lump sum within 60 days of termination. That, plus the salary ($5MM plus) for a new HC, plus a $485MM stadium adds up to a LOT of money.Comment
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Originally posted by Mailman View PostYou know boss, I don't know. I am working on 4 hours of sleep, and leaving work in a few minutes to begin a 4 hour journey to East Texas for Carnathan Christmas. My Paw-Paw used to say that you could "dazzle them with brilliance" or "baffle them with BS!!!" I have been a baffler most of my life!!!
Like I said in my previous post, Logan is probably headed to College Station so I'll be paying for an Aggie Education, which I am cool with. I was just trying to determine if everyone (Aggies) really thought Sumln was the problem, a talent problem, or just an over-reaction by the fan base?
If you feel Sumlin is the real problem, who is the fix? If you need a new HC, what makes you think Herman is the right guy? Based on the names listed above, none of those guys who left "Cougar High" have accomplished anything, short of Briles. He is the only guy listed to win a Conference Championship. What makes us so sure Herman is the next big thing, and not a flop at the next level, Power 5 school? We won't know until he tries it, but I think he'll be successful where ever goes. This seems to be an epidemic at every school, lets just throw money at it. Let's hire the hot name, the OC / DC, and I wonder all along if it truly is a Coaching problem. Being at UH, we are the stepping stone for guys, like the ones mentioned above, so you sorta have to take what you get.
Lastly, I was trying to establish what the expectations are for the program at TAMU, heck any program. Is 10 wins a year and a conference Title every 3 to 5 years enough? All this talk of being right there, and positioning themselves to compete for a Natty, I'll agree with, but the fact is they haven't been close in 4 years in the SEC. Heck this was supposed to be the year, started 5-0 and finished 3-4. Not bashing, I just want to know what, besides a Natty, will appease the fan base? To say Natty or Bust at TAMU, in my opinion, is a bit premature. They haven't done it yet, they aren't returning to National Prominence, they weren't ever prominent.
If Herman ends up in College Station, you Ags will pick-up a fan and I don't know what %er I would be, but I would certainly root for success. He is a heckuva football coach, but seems to be a better man, and these kids down here in Houston absolutely LOVE him. He's the best one we have had, that I can remember. I don't know Herman, and I have no clue what he is thinking, but I think he played this year perfectly, and he'll be the most wanted man in College Football after next season, and no amount of money will keep him on Cullen. The allure of the Power 5 and the real chance of making the CFB Playoff will ultimately win out, and while the Cougar Fans, who mostly showed up this year, will be upset and call him a liar and a traitor, he is progressing his career. He has done more in 12 months, for our program, than others have done in the last 3 decades. For the first time I can remember, people and not just alums, are wearing Red and it is really neat to see.
UH beat Louisville this year, you guys should handle them.I don't think it's accurate or fair to say that "this was supposed to be the year.." for A&M. By almost all accounts, A&M was predicted to finish at or near the bottom of the division. Obviously with LSU and Auburn down, by their expectations, it was disappointing to not finish higher than we did.Originally posted by Dale Moser View Post
I think JM jumpstarted the program, while at the same time accelerating expectations. I've been consistent, from season one through pre-LSU analysis, of pointing out that I STILL think the program is ahead of pre-SEC expectations from fans, and certainly those outside the program that thought it would relegate us to perennial SEC bottom-dweller status right along with Vandy and Kentucky. It's easy to look at the records from 2012 through this year and make the claim that the program is in decline, but I honestly don't think that's an accurate or fair assessment. Yes, there have been plenty of setbacks since the 2012 season - discipline issues, players not panning out, graduations, leaving early for draft, coordinator/coach problems, youth, etc. - but the bulk of the talent/depth are underclassmen this season (recruit/discipline issues). There is SIGNIFICANTLY more depth of talent (and maturity) ending 2015 than there was going into 2013.
Recruiting is consistently high, support ($ and fan) is higher than ever, facilities are largely unrivaled, stadium is top of the line. If there is any issue, it would obviously be coaching related.
I think coaching (and QB) stability is key to consistent success. A&M has lacked that with coordinators and QBs. I think you have to ride with Sumlin in hopes he can continue correcting things. He was a largely inexperienced coach coming in to A&M (as Herman would be). Changing HC now would be a HUGE setback.
I think it's realistic expectation for A&M to compete for division titles. By default, winning the West puts you in position to win the SEC, which naturally puts that team in positon to compete for Natty. I consider "competing" for the division to be having a realistic opportunity to win against the Bamas, Auburns and LSU's while consistently beating the Mississippi's, Arkansas and most of the teams in the East.
Unfortunately, Bama shows no sign of coming back to the pack.Comment
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@SportsTalkwBo: Brown: There’s a $20M buyout for Sumlin, and I’m told Sharp is going to try and cut that in half or fire Sumlin for cause.
@SportsTalkwBo: Brown: I’m told today that a decision to terminate Sumlin’s contract could also include a decision to get rid of the AD Eric Hyman.Comment
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Not to worry. I doubt it turns into a three ring circus.Originally posted by 15ncs View PostBarnett is gone?
I'm sure there is another one out there would gladly step in. 
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I don't think you can give a "win the Natty or you're out" proclamation for Sumlin for 2016, or beyond. I do think they need to be in a position to win the division in late November, and if they have a loss, it needs to have been a competitive game. I also think they HAVE to win against LSU at Kyle.
Defense needs to be improved, if not dominant. The offense needs to be FIXED, even absent a dynamic QB or passer. Sumlin needs to be more transparent...or at least more consistent with how he handles injury, player issues and the media.
Fortunately, it's not unrealistic for any/all of those expectations to become a reality next season, IMO.Comment
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Originally posted by Chad C
****it Chad, would you stop reading words!Comment
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Ok, I've heard that a few times.Originally posted by Chad C View Post
What has Sumlin done that they could fire him for cause? I remember something about public drunkenness a while back, but that could just have been internet BS. Has he allegedly done something that was in violation of his contract?Comment
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Equal opportunity
@AlexDunlapNFL: Welp, Texas Monthly Headline: "Is There An Internal Struggle To Oust Charlie Strong?" https://t.co/ctRx9j5OuGComment
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