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Old 03-13-2018, 02:34 PM   #51
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I had a Vortex Razor it was a bit foggy or fuzzy to me, great scope but just not as clear as my Leupolds even the VX II.
While I prefer leupold, you either didnít adjust it right or it was broke. Razor is WAY better than a vxii


I vote leupold. I do like the gen 2 razors a lot.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:40 PM   #52
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Vortex - an American-owned company sells riflescopes that have been manufactured overseas.

Razor HD scopes are manufactured in Japan
Vipers are made in Philippines
Diamondbacks are made in Philippines made as well
Crossfire scopes are produced in China

Iíll stick with Leupold since they are made in the USA and have never let me down
They aren't all built overseas.

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Old 03-13-2018, 02:41 PM   #53
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Leupold for me
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:53 PM   #54
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They aren't all built overseas.



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They have one product thatís 100% USA made and the price reflects it.


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Old 03-13-2018, 04:21 PM   #55
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They have one product thatís 100% USA made and the price reflects it.


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Correct. And still significantly less expensive and lighter than Leupold.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:35 PM   #56
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Correct. And still significantly less expensive and lighter than Leupold.


Cheaper than which Leupold?

$3699 isnít chump change and itís only 4X magnification range.



Leupold Mark 5 5-25x52 FFP illuminated TMR is $3249.


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Old 03-13-2018, 04:54 PM   #57
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A friend had an old Leupold on his grandpas rifle that he was gifted. Not sure how old exactly, but it was definitely old. Looking through it, it was hazy around the perimeter. He called Leupold and they said to send it to them. They ended up replacing all the glass, internals, and turrets free of charge that was on par with VX2 glass. He was ecstatic, he got to keep the old look of the scope but essentially got a brand new scope.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:04 PM   #58
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Cheaper than which Leupold?

$3699 isnít chump change and itís only 4X magnification range.



Leupold Mark 5 5-25x52 FFP illuminated TMR is $3249.


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Leupold is $5400...I'm not knocking Leupold, they support and promote public lands, and are a great company all around. But they are more expensive, and if I needed absolute top of the line optics, and had someone else's money to spend, I would go with Leupold top of the line any day.

But, for my $, I am going Vortex, because no way am I going to notice the 1/10th of 1% better the Leupold is over Vortex.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:12 PM   #59
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neither one, over-hyped.
Nikon only.
I would agree on the Vortex, had two of them, sold 'em as Nikon Monarch was a much better scope for me anyway. Leupold...had several and like them in the mid price range compared to the Monarch. Regarding warranty, all 3 brands mentioned offer life time, but I've only had to return 1 over all the years and it was NOT Nikon. Got the replacement back and still not pleased and sold it.

This is a subject you can argue about all day long....but as someone said, look thru them all and judge for yourself. The ONE thing you can't see when buying one is light gathering capability morning or evening.

For the past several years all I have bought is Nikon with the 50mm. It works for me but I've got old eyes and rely on "eye relief" + clarity.

IMO of course.....
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:19 PM   #60
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Leupold is $5400...I'm not knocking Leupold, they support and promote public lands, and are a great company all around. But they are more expensive, and if I needed absolute top of the line optics, and had someone else's money to spend, I would go with Leupold top of the line any day.



But, for my $, I am going Vortex, because no way am I going to notice the 1/10th of 1% better the Leupold is over Vortex.


In that price point there are better scopes than the Leupold or the Vortex. But in a heads up comparison across the board, Leupold wins hands down.......and not by 1/10 of 1%.

Warranty - even
Quality - Leupold
Price - even (there is a price point for everyone)

All other things being equal Iíll take the higher quality product that isnít as likely to NEED the warranty.

I love Vortex fanboys. Although they arenít as prevalent as they once were. I wonder why.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:44 PM   #61
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Leupold is $5400...I'm not knocking Leupold, they support and promote public lands, and are a great company all around. But they are more expensive, and if I needed absolute top of the line optics, and had someone else's money to spend, I would go with Leupold top of the line any day.



But, for my $, I am going Vortex, because no way am I going to notice the 1/10th of 1% better the Leupold is over Vortex.


Show me a comparable Leupold to the Vortex I posted that is $5400.

My experience with Vortex glass have been vastly not good up to their PST line.

All of my Leupold scopes have never given me the issues that the Vortex have including all the way down to the VX2 line.

The only Leupold that is even close to the $5400 price you quoted is the very top end Mark 6 and Mark 8 scopes with very specialized reticles.


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Old 03-13-2018, 09:33 PM   #62
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Leupold is $5400...I'm not knocking Leupold, they support and promote public lands, and are a great company all around. But they are more expensive, and if I needed absolute top of the line optics, and had someone else's money to spend, I would go with Leupold top of the line any day.

But, for my $, I am going Vortex, because no way am I going to notice the 1/10th of 1% better the Leupold is over Vortex.
What leupold is $5400? And not talking msrp. Talking street price. Iíve owned a half dozen mk6 leupolds with different features. Iíve never had a mk8. But Iím not understanding your comparison. And thereís no way Iíd buy either brand for anything over $2000. Lol
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:36 PM   #63
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Here's the way I see it: can't go wrong with Leupold, might go wrong with Vortex. So it's Leupold for me.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:40 PM   #64
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Leupold. Not even close.
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