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Old 02-16-2017, 03:40 PM   #1
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:48 PM   #2
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:02 PM   #3
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What do you call young, or old?
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:04 PM   #4
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:07 PM   #5
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2.5 long legged looks like a thoroughbred
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:19 PM   #6
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:21 PM   #7
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Either very young or very old. I'm leaning towards very old
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:26 PM   #8
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Very short rib cage and short brisket. I'm thinking 3 to 4. Should be a good
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:31 PM   #9
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:33 PM   #10
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What do you call young, or old?
Looking at this buck I see a short face, long neck, tighter skin, back not really swayed, belly isn't hanging, chest doesn't look all that big, etc. I think he's 2.5 maybe 3.5.

I'm no pro at aging by the way. Just my thoughts.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:35 PM   #11
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young probably 2.5
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:42 PM   #12
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I'm going old on this one. Very similar to GarGuys thread a couple weeks ago.

First off something about the sagging under side of mouth. Tarsals aren't as dark as a mature bucks but he probably hasn't bred in a year or 2. Somewhat of a sway back but nothing major. Broad shoulders and brisket. Back end looks worn down compared to the rest of his body. Going out on a limb and saying 9yr old by now.

He looks young but unless you keep good track of your deer its easy to mistaken a old brute for a 2-3 yr old. I know no history on this deer so it's just a guess.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:44 PM   #13
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I'm going old on this one. Very similar to GarGuys thread a couple weeks ago.

First off something about the sagging under side of mouth. Tarsals aren't as dark as a mature bucks but he probably hasn't bred in a year or 2. Somewhat of a sway back but nothing major. Broad shoulders and brisket. Back end looks worn down compared to the rest of his body. Going out on a limb and saying 9yr old by now.

He looks young but unless you keep good track of your deer its easy to mistaken a old brute for a 2-3 yr old. I know no history on this deer so it's just a guess.
Yup, I can see this too! That back end was throwing me off a little.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:45 PM   #14
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Yup, I can see this too! That back end was throwing me off a little.
Hips sometimes are a dead giveaway but this one is tough. Just doesn't look right.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:47 PM   #15
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Hips sometimes are a dead giveaway but this one is tough. Just doesn't look right.
Agreed. His back legs to me just look like a young bucks legs. Not much for tarsal glands either. That's the reason I went for the young side.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:48 PM   #16
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I know it's shed season but he also has fully shed. Low Testosterone equals dropped antlers. Don't know Harris County but here many bucks still have both antlers.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:59 PM   #17
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Wow! After some explanations on this buck, I've gone back to see and learn some of the reasoning behind the opinions of him being old! Good stuff
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:09 PM   #18
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4 or 5 but leaning toward 5. Bucks sure do slim down when it comes time to shed.
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:37 PM   #19
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Can you teach me what age characters you use.
Pretty much what Antlers86 had to say. Tarsals were a dead give away on this deer. 2.5-3.5 year olds leak a whole lot more than this, which is a sign of no rutting. The head and jaws just scream old to me, plus the protruding shoulder blades. Nothing about this deer says young to me. If you could post some pics of some known young deer to compare?
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:24 PM   #20
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He definitely bread this year. Lost his antlers last week. Just for the record so have all my other bucks.
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:42 AM   #21
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I will try to post a few more pictures.

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Old 02-17-2017, 07:48 AM   #22
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Another angle.
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:01 AM   #23
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I would call that deer a rutted down middle-aged buck. The only concern I have with calling him that is his cupped/dished forehead in the first pic. The regrowth/missing hair on top and behind his shoulders is what I see more on middle-aged bucks. It appears it was cold in those pics since he has his hair fluffed up to hold in heat. That is making him look older than what he is.
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:48 AM   #24
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2.5 long legged looks like a thoroughbred
This. He aint got no belly or chest, and his tarsal glands are still very small.
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:20 AM   #25
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This. He aint got no belly or chest, and his tarsal glands are still very small.
Yeah, but this is not during the rut either. Deer in that area are not going to look all buffed up this time of the year.
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:46 AM   #26
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:47 AM   #27
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:59 AM   #28
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Both of these new deer will turn 2yrs old in May. All pictures are from the last two days. The deer in question I will let you know his age at the end of the day. Interesting with the great diversity.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:25 AM   #29
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Great thread. I know i suck at aging other folks deer from pics. Heck i suck at aging my on deer without history. At a glance he is a 3 year old. Then i look closer and see a dished forehead. That bottom jaw just aint right either.

East tx is hard. The deer dont run through cactus to swell their knees.. Dont lay on rocks to make a chest boob. Dont pick up sand with their food to wear their teeth down. i think more deer are capable of living to 12 plus in east tx than anywhere else in the state.

Final answer? I dont know but Im going to guess he is 10 years old
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:27 AM   #30
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Another angle.
This has old all over it! Feeling even more confident with my guess.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:29 AM   #31
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Yeah, but this is not during the rut either. Deer in that area are not going to look all buffed up this time of the year.
It actually looks closer to 3.5 taking a better look at it. This is what I use for aging (Take a look @ 3.5 yr):
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:32 AM   #32
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It actually looks closer to 3.5 taking a better look at it. This is what I use for aging (Take a look @ 3.5 yr):
That's a good reference, but those characteristics are difficult to correlate in bucks at this time of year. Without history on a particular buck, the best time to really get the best age idea using those traits is just before the rut when they're in peak shape.

I haven't weighed in a guess on this buck yet, because without a history it's just too difficult to tell. His tarsals aren't stained a great deal, but I think it's possible that could be due to post-maturity (as others have said). His head does look blocky, forehead dished out, and his pedicles are fairly robust. The muscle atrophy across his back between his shoulders reminds of something I normally see in more mature bucks at this time of year. I lean toward him being mature/post-mature, but may be totally off.
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It actually looks closer to 3.5 taking a better look at it. This is what I use for aging (Take a look @ 3.5 yr):
The problem with that is that it doesnt have any 8,9,and 10 year old east tx deer.
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Both of these new deer will turn 2yrs old in May. All pictures are from the last two days. The deer in question I will let you know his age at the end of the day. Interesting with the great diversity.
You know your herd obviously, so can't refute that. However, if I saw those two where I hunt, my hunch would be that the first one was 2yo this year, and the other was 1yo (yearling). The first buck has far more staining than than most 1yos, his body has more muscle, and his neck is more well-muscled and beginning to transition into his chest/shoulders. The second one looks like a classic yearling - like a doe with antlers. Interesting.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #36
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:06 PM   #37
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The problem with that is that it doesnt have any 8,9,and 10 year old east tx deer.
Very good point, I thought about that right after I sent the pic.
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That's a good reference, but those characteristics are difficult to correlate in bucks at this time of year. Without history on a particular buck, the best time to really get the best age idea using those traits is just before the rut when they're in peak shape.

I haven't weighed in a guess on this buck yet, because without a history it's just too difficult to tell. His tarsals aren't stained a great deal, but I think it's possible that could be due to post-maturity (as others have said). His head does look blocky, forehead dished out, and his pedicles are fairly robust. The muscle atrophy across his back between his shoulders reminds of something I normally see in more mature bucks at this time of year. I lean toward him being mature/post-mature, but may be totally off.
Very good points!
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You know your herd obviously, so can't refute that. However, if I saw those two where I hunt, my hunch would be that the first one was 2yo this year, and the other was 1yo (yearling). The first buck has far more staining than than most 1yos, his body has more muscle, and his neck is more well-muscled and beginning to transition into his chest/shoulders. The second one looks like a classic yearling - like a doe with antlers. Interesting.
Well you are right about the 2 being different size. The one with half a rack is a deer I call meanie. He is a stud for his age. The other is just a runt. He was a twin. He's brother was a 4pt and he was a small spike.
Meanie was a 7pt this year and be 2yrs old in may.
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Well you are right about the 2 being different size. The one with half a rack is a deer I call meanie. He is a stud for his age. The other is just a runt. He was a twin. He's brother was a 4pt and he was a small spike.
Meanie was a 7pt this year and be 2yrs old in may.
See how important history is? heheheh

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It actually looks closer to 3.5 taking a better look at it. This is what I use for aging (Take a look @ 3.5 yr):
He could be 3, I'm no expert. For me, this time of year when bucks are dropping sheds, its hard to tell much difference between 3 and 5 year olds. They seem to loose a lot of weight and look draw up in the flank similar to what you look for in a 3 year old. This deer still has a decent size neck but it also looks like the skin is loose. He also has a more bulky head. This makes me believe that deer looked totally different right before rut. Also, there appears to be a lot of muscle in the brisket area. I noticed this also in pics of the older deer I have on camera right now. It will be interesting to hear the op's answer.
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Old 02-17-2017, 03:41 PM   #42
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Well you are right about the 2 being different size. The one with half a rack is a deer I call meanie. He is a stud for his age. The other is just a runt. He was a twin. He's brother was a 4pt and he was a small spike.
Meanie was a 7pt this year and be 2yrs old in may.
Thanks for the clarification, and it helps prove the point in my other post about the absence of history with a buck can make proper aging very challenging.
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This is a picture of his antlers at 2.5 and 3.5. Thanks for playing it was fun and educational.
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Thats just neat. Aging other folks deer is not an exact science..
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I'm an idiot! Love these threads.

Next time please post pic with horns, that plays a big part in aging as well. Lol!
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Next time please post pic with horns, that plays a big part in aging as well. Lol!
Like this one? Any thoughts on it's age?

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Like this one? Any thoughts on it's age?

That may be coolest looking buck I've eeen in awhile
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Here's the write up on it:

https://www.lsonews.com/longest-spike/

Only reason I posted it was to give an example that horns aren't a good way to judge age.
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And just the opposite, a 100" yearling compared to a 230" 5.5 year old:

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