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Are there any TBH'ers that own one? I'd like some real feedback on these from someone that's not trying to sell it to me. Do they work as reliably as advertised? What about on rainy days? Any info would be appreciated. I'm really considering getting one because I haven't found a good way to consistently feed rice bran. I've tried the auger type feeders and they are junk. Most gravity feed ones will bridge up. Supposedly this is not an issue with the Fortress feeder. They are not cheap, so I want to know what those who own the feeder really think of it.
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Wish there was a way to tag people on threads. I know a few guys that have them and have heard nothing but good thing about them. TTT in hopes they see the thread and chime in.
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But 2 if them. I will test one for you and let you know it works!!
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Send them PM's and copy this thread to them. Please
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I can tell you that they have had these feeders running on the same ranch for several years now. Not alot of moving parts so pretty bullet proof.
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I can tell you that they have had these feeders running on the same ranch for several years now. Not alot of moving parts so pretty bullet proof.

Any idea about rainy days? That powder can't flow into the pan if its wet I don't think. I'm hoping to find some TBH'ers that have bought them.
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It drops down out of the shoot, not sideways.. I have seen it work. Same concept as my timed protein, just with a bigger plate and shoot. Plus there are no sided to keep it from coming out. It is gonna work.
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Only thing besides the price I am concerned with is the trough catching a lot of water and turning into a nasty mess.
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Thanks Mitch for the info. I guess they haven't sold many to TBH'ers yet.
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Only thing besides the price I am concerned with is the trough catching a lot of water and turning into a nasty mess.


Me too
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Only thing besides the price I am concerned with is the trough catching a lot of water and turning into a nasty mess.
Price aint no big deal with you high rollers!
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You must have me confused with someone else
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Are there any TBH'ers that own one? I'd like some real feedback on these from someone that's not trying to sell it to me. Do they work as reliably as advertised? What about on rainy days? Any info would be appreciated. I'm really considering getting one because I haven't found a good way to consistently feed rice bran. I've tried the auger type feeders and they are junk. Most gravity feed ones will bridge up. Supposedly this is not an issue with the Fortress feeder. They are not cheap, so I want to know what those who own the feeder really think of it.
If I agree not to sell you one can I answer you questions?
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If I agree not to sell you one can I answer you questions?
Lol. Ok. Please do





If I decide to buy one from you it will be strictly coincidental
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Any idea about rainy days? That powder can't flow into the pan if its wet I don't think. I'm hoping to find some TBH'ers that have bought them.
The amount of feed dropped will very based upon moisture absolutely.

If it's dry 4-5 lbs of Rice bran per feeding.

If it's drizzling or has just stopped raining 2-3 lbs..

If it is raining cats and dogs what does drop will wash out of the pan.

If it has just fed and it rains the moisture will leak out of the 4-5" weep holes in the corners of the trough and the deer don't care if the feed is wet.

The trough will be a mess after a heavy rain 100%..just like putting it on the ground or in a tote. However the deer don't care.

The catch is what is still in the hopper is still dry and will feed like normal the next feeding.

Now if you have a real heavy rain. 2"+ some moisture may wick back into the hopper 2-3"..However the next time it feeds the deer will eat that too just like sticking their nose in a protein tube.
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Only thing besides the price I am concerned with is the trough catching a lot of water and turning into a nasty mess.
Price is high 100% agree..however this stuff is a pain in the *** to feed reliably. The feeder as designed works.

Trust me I'm working on cheaper methods all the time. I have
Have yet to find a cheaper method that works.

We have had nearly double our annual rain fall for the past two years on the ranch. I have seen the complete trough full of water and feed soup. The next day the trough was clean as could be. What didn't leak out the deer either ate or the coons cleaned up what was remaining in the trough.

However a coon 100% can not get to the hopper where the remaining feed is.
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Serious question - If I built a smaller one the deer had to eat out of instead a trough, but I could shave a couple hundred off the cost is that something you guys want?
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Its no doubt a great product but Honestly cost is probably the biggest issue on these. My other suggestion would be to just have it dump on the ground instead of a trough. That way rain gathering up is not an issue. Someone can easily lay some hardi board or such on the ground to keep it out of the dirt and rocks.

Just my .02
I feed alot of rice bran and I would love to have an automated feeder, just can't bring myself to write that check.
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Serious question - If I built a smaller one the deer had to eat out of instead a trough, but I could shave a couple hundred off the cost is that something you guys want?


If by smaller you mean holds less feed then no. 500lbs is fine by me.


Thanks for all the info Bruce. Have you added solar panels in them yet or is that something I will need to do later if I want one?

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Old 03-09-2018, 12:27 PM   #24
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How much do the timed rice bran feeders cost?

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If by smaller you mean holds less feed then no. 500lbs is fine by me.


Thanks for all the info Bruce. Have you added solar panels in them yet or is that something I will need to do later if I want one?
You will want one and I can add it for you.
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That's about what you'd pay for a solid, timed protein feeder.
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Its no doubt a great product but Honestly cost is probably the biggest issue on these. My other suggestion would be to just have it dump on the ground instead of a trough. That way rain gathering up is not an issue. Someone can easily lay some hardi board or such on the ground to keep it out of the dirt and rocks.

Just my .02
I feed alot of rice bran and I would love to have an automated feeder, just can't bring myself to write that check.

All the feed in the feeder would fall out then. These acuators are not fast like a spinner plate.. It opens in about 8=10 seconds, then can close a minute later. By that time all the rice brand would have dumped on the ground.
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All the feed in the feeder would fall out then. These acuators are not fast like a spinner plate.. It opens in about 8=10 seconds, then can close a minute later. By that time all the rice brand would have dumped on the ground.
Ahh gotcha
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Bruce,
I can only assume that much of the cost associated with your feeder is in the hopper itself. This, due to the obvious size and space allocated for the materials (which also plays a factor and challenge with shipping) as well as the overall fabrication of said hopper? Call me crazy but Iím sure youíve tried to factor in a way to sell or market JUST the lower unit or mechanical portion itself? Thatís obviously where the value in your feeder design lies. Is this not an option at this point?
Seems you could reach a much larger audience if you could market just the ďgutsĒ of this thing and obviously cut down a major portion of the COGs not to mention the shipping challenges.
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I can only assume that much of the cost associated with your feeder is in the hopper itself. This, due to the obvious size and space allocated for the materials (which also plays a factor and challenge with shipping) as well as the overall fabrication of said hopper? Call me crazy but Iím sure youíve tried to factor in a way to sell or market JUST the lower unit or mechanical portion itself? Thatís obviously where the value in your feeder design lies. Is this not an option at this point?
Seems you could reach a much larger audience if you could market just the ďgutsĒ of this thing and obviously cut down a major portion of the COGs not to mention the shipping challenges.
You are partially correct..Hopper is a large part of the cost. However labor is also a factor. It's not just (the guts) that make it work. It is VERY specific and the hopper plays a role as well.

The first two of "this design" cost me $980 a piece without the timer and motor and they only worked half assed and that was a buddy deal!

Notice I said this design there were 7 previous designs that flat didn't work

I built an auger style
I built a paddle wheel
I built a spinner
I built a stirrer
4 different gravity style
Then I got it!

The feeder just works.

Your right I'm not shipping these.

Because the feeder design is so specific I'm hesitant to make an adaptable piece to reach a larger market. It's too easy to mess it up and then my name is on it.

That plus the fact there is not another reliable Timed Rice Bran feeder out there. There are several that have failed though.

I'm also not in this to "get rich" - I have a real job. This all started because I wanted one for myself and to prove it could be done. Around revision seven I was doubting myself.

Revision 8 showed promise and revision 9 finally did it!
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I looked at your website but didn't see pricing.

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That is intentional as I was not happy with original pricing.

Last August they were $1200.00

Today they are $800.00
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Well that isn't too bad.

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If you have ever seen revision #9 it is impressive. I visited with Bruce at the TTHA show in Houston last year. Very informative. Product looks great. If I had the extra cash I would buy one. I have two kids in college though so for now I have to throw the rice bran on the ground.
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Good thread. Question: Protein is fed to GROW antlers. Studies have consistently noted that feeding constantly (free feed) was the only way to get the results of maximum growth in the months that mattered most. Is this NOT correct? If so, why would we want to limit the amount of feed the deer can get. Or, did I miss that part?
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With rice bran it's not about limiting so much as conserving and reducing waste. With this feeder you could leave it open and they could eat all they want.
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Good thread. Question: Protein is fed to GROW antlers. Studies have consistently noted that feeding constantly (free feed) was the only way to get the results of maximum growth in the months that mattered most. Is this NOT correct? If so, why would we want to limit the amount of feed the deer can get. Or, did I miss that part?
I agree with what you've read. That's what I understand as well. IMO the timed feeders serve two purposes: 1. You can "train" the deer to come feed in the daytime.
2. You can save money by limiting the amount of feed you give them daily.
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Good thread. Question: Protein is fed to GROW antlers. Studies have consistently noted that feeding constantly (free feed) was the only way to get the results of maximum growth in the months that mattered most. Is this NOT correct? If so, why would we want to limit the amount of feed the deer can get. Or, did I miss that part?
Rice Bran is high In Fat but only 12% protein.

Some use it to "finish out" show animals but in controlled amounts

It works very well though as an attractant. If you have never fed it put some out.
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I agree with what you've read. That's what I understand as well. IMO the timed feeders serve two purposes: 1. You can "train" the deer to come feed in the daytime.
2. You can save money by limiting the amount of feed you give them daily.
Gotcha!!! I will look into this also. We are feeding full blown protein thru April/May. Then I could get one of these when the season starts and get them addicted during daylight.
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With rice bran it's not about limiting so much as conserving and reducing waste. With this feeder you could leave it open and they could eat all they want.
True!

As a test this year I tried to make a gen 8 feeder fail.

I filled the feeder January 1st and only had it open and close 5 mins later - just enough to dust the trough.

I was trying to do three things.

1. Make the feeder gum up/clog do to limited flow and moisture

2. Cause the feed to spoil due to moisture content in the feed.

3. See how much or how little I could feed to keep them coming.

That feeder finally ran dry 12 months later - December 15th

1. The feeder never failed

2. The feeder actually dried / baked the feed. It got weavels but it didn't spoil - deer don't mind weavels

3. 12 months 1 filling - that is extreme stretching of the dollar. Deer still came every day. If they weren't quick enough to be first or second they still licked the trough.

When I was putting it in totes I was feeding 100 lbs a week.
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How tall is the feeder? Too tall to be stand and fill I assume? Are the gen 8 ones $800? That price is more appealing than the $1,200 I saw when I first looked at them. Not criticizing your price at all. It's my pocket book that's the issue

Have you considered adding a rain sensor or is the rain really not an issue? IMO a rain sensor would help prevent some loss and hardening of the bran. I think you have made the best product so far to feed the rice bran with.
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I bought one last year at the Houston TTHA show, its been great so far!
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Rice Bran is high In Fat but only 12% protein.

Some use it to "finish out" show animals but in controlled amounts

It works very well though as an attractant. If you have never fed it put some out.
Glad you mentioned that cause I was gona...thx
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They work 100%. I spent way more putting out hundreds of pounds of rice bran on the ground and having it disappear in a week. Having something you know brings them consistently and doesn't get emptied out in a week is worth its weight in gold to me..
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:48 AM   #46
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How tall is the feeder? Too tall to be stand and fill I assume? Are the gen 8 ones $800? That price is more appealing than the $1,200 I saw when I first looked at them. Not criticizing your price at all. It's my pocket book that's the issue

Have you considered adding a rain sensor or is the rain really not an issue? IMO a rain sensor would help prevent some loss and hardening of the bran. I think you have made the best product so far to feed the rice bran with.
If your 6' or better you can stand and fill. If not there is a cross brace on the back to stand on when you fill.

Considered a rain sensor yes...but it hasn't been an issue. To me that was just one more thing to screw up and add complexity.

No longer making the Gen 8..everything going forward is Gen 9

$800
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:57 AM   #47
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What is different for the different gen of feeders? Say the 8 and 9?
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Old 03-10-2018, 09:03 AM   #48
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Where do you pick these up at?

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Old 03-10-2018, 03:23 PM   #49
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Bruce I think you sold me

I will be getting with you before I head back to the lease. Thanks for all the info everyone.
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:08 PM   #50
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However a coon 100% can not get to the hopper where the remaining feed is.
Glad you addressed that.

That was an issue with the old nocturnal nightmare feeders.
Had a coon get trapped, tore out the wiring while trapped inside.
Next trip up it wasnít working and we couldnít get it open.
Once we got it open...wished we hadnít.
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