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Old 10-26-2020, 01:54 PM   #1
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Dear Borderland Beat Followers;

It is with much thought that the decision has been made to shut down Borderland Beat as of Monday, October 26th at 5PM mountain time.

Our plan as of now is to re-open in January 2021.

We will attempt to tweet on the BB Twitter page at @Borderland_Beat if it appears we can contribute in an effective way.

As for now, it is too difficult to continue the blog.

Why?

The decision was made as in the best interest of BB.

BB has come under attack in an unbelievable scenario, not a hack, but a person, a famous capo, each of you would know his name and his story.

He has filed a lawsuit with the federal court of the United States naming Borderland Beat as the defendant.

This is the first time in history that a capo of any magnitude, former or current, has sued a blog, or for that matter any news site.

It truly is mindboggling.

What does he want?

So far, money.

Which of course BB has none.

Buggs and all the contributors are volunteers. Buggs has kept his project simple; volunteer generated, no paywall, and no advertising.

The litigation has the potential of becoming pricy.

'Capo' objected to an image. An image where BB was not the breakout media source, that was Reforma/El Norte, then a number of blogs and media sites followed.

Contributors at BB are like independent contractors, no one 'approves' the posts. As soon as the request was made to remove the images the entire post was removed.

His name?

Buggs has decided not to divulge the name because, since his first contact via his attorney, the capo requested and received a court order allowing him to sue as John Doe.

Although there isn't a gag order on the case, Buggs feels compelled to honor the order of anonymity to include BB not sharing his true name or moniker.

Capo has recently added a number of other blogs, media sites, and newspapers to the lawsuit as well as google.

These past two months have been incredibly stressful and uncertain.

The safety of contributors is always in question, but now with this, we are not sleeping well.

BB was founded on an idea for a project by its owner/founder Buggs. To have this incredibly successful narco news source shut down forever in this way, must not be the path it is forced to take.

We love you people! You have supported us, assisted us, championed us, encouraged us. Without YOU supporters, BB would not have succeeded to the level it has. THANK YOU.🙏🏼

WE WILL BE BACK!!!
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Old 10-26-2020, 03:38 PM   #2
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What is borderland beats?


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Old 10-26-2020, 03:43 PM   #3
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I have fallowed the failed war on drugs for many years on BB. Lots of people have lost their lives trying to get the news out over there.


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Old 10-26-2020, 03:45 PM   #4
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It was talking about the border with Mexico and all the drug cartels murder, shootouts, ect
The USA has a media black out about such things so BB was basically only source of information

I.E cartel and federal officials had a huge gun battle out of Nuevo Laredo
I watched the Laredo news feed and zero coverage ( crazy a body of water can cause a media blockage, )
“ well not that crazy, joe Biden, and Jeffery Epstein have had a media black hole for years “

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Old 10-26-2020, 03:45 PM   #5
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They are the main narco blog covering the various cartels / politics & their actions going on primarily throughout Mexico...I'm still not sure how a lawsuit against a blog would be able to stick when all they are doing is sharing news stories.

There is A LOT going on right now & just weird.
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Old 10-26-2020, 03:56 PM   #6
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The Chapito's have been busy.

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Old 10-26-2020, 03:59 PM   #7
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I remember to look on there every six months or so. Crazy what goes on. The comments section is always entertaining as well. People talk about the different cartels like they are sports teams.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:02 PM   #8
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What's a capo?
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:05 PM   #9
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The Chapito's have been busy.
Who would have thought Quintero would be back in the game??


The sons of “Chapo” against Rafael Caro Quintero in the incessant dispute for control of the Sonoran desert



Now that Joaquín el “Chapo” Guzmán is in custody, it is his sons who have continued with the drug trafficking business and have tried to maintain and extend the dominions of the Sinaloa Cartel.

Currently, they seek to dominate the Sonoran desert, where there have been several confrontations with the Caborca ​​Cartel, led by Rafael Caro Quintero, who has also settled in the place.

In recent months, this area has increased its levels of violence due to the presence of criminal cells from both cartels that it constantly confronts in the municipality of Caborca.

An En Punto report by journalists Marco Antonio Coronel and Adrián Tinoco revealed that between January and August 2020 intentional homicides have increased 28% compared to the same period last year. That is, they went from 809 to 1,036 victims.

In an interview on the subject with the municipal president of the place, Librado Macías, who said that "it is something that has to do with the proximity that this region has with the United States, it is a very long border area."

He accepted that the sale of drugs persist in the municipality and the constant appearance of narcomantas that threaten to continue the wave of violence while one of the two cartels is the winner.

"It is a confrontation between two staunch criminal groups that seek to end their opponent, " said the municipal president.

However, the media highlights that the Sonoyta-Caborca ​​and Puerto Peñasco-Puerto Lobos highways are two areas where signs of violence are more frequent.

Sonora, given its geographical location, increases the interest of criminal organizations seeking to control drug trafficking. Among these groups is the criminal cell of Los Salazar identified as the armed wing of the Sinaloa Cartel.



For years, Caborca ​​has been identified as the center of operations for Caro Quintero.

In May 2020 it was reported that in the state of Sonora the sale of luxury cars has been monopolized by Caborca, land of cattle ranchers, who could not be the purchasers. In addition , the purchase and sale of ranches increased substantially, which were sold at double their cost, and the buyers were not ranchers either.

According to the latest report from the Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU), the organization with the largest presence in the country is the Jalisco Nueva Generación Cartel (CJNG), which controls practically all the coastal states.

However, the Sinaloa Cartel is not far behind and its presence has been registered in states such as Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Sinaloa, Zacatecas, Jalisco, Colima, Querétaro, State of Mexico, Guerrero, Oaxaca, Chiapas and Quintana Roo.

In addition, the agency reported the presence of other organizations such as the Gulf Cartel, Los Zetas, the Michoacana Family, the Beltrán Leyva, the Unión Tepito Cartel, the Tláhuac Cartel, Los Viagra, the Northeast Cartel, the Independent Cartel from Acapulco, Los Rojos and Guerreros Unidos, among many others.

The main conflict between the Sinaloans and the Caborca ​​Cartel is for the control of the state, where both are allied with Sonoran politicians who seek to keep some hectares of the desert, which have great wealth in their subsoil.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:15 PM   #10
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What's a capo?
Short for caporegime or capodecina & likely referring to a high ranking narco...I've read through the comments & not sure who has filed the lawsuit.
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Old 10-26-2020, 08:16 PM   #11
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You are far more knowledgeable about it than I am. Somebody here on TBH posted this guy Ed, he posts some crazy stuff about the cartels on Instagram. Very interesting guy, I looked into it some (really wanted to see what area) when I saw this video. But always interested to hear your take.
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Old 10-26-2020, 09:01 PM   #12
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Well this s@cks!!
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Old 10-26-2020, 10:06 PM   #13
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BB posts good stuff. A couple of those guys are lucky to still be breathing based on what they've posted over the years. The lawsuit is about intimidation pure and simple, what better way to learn names than to force depositions. Source info, contributors etc are open for discovery, once sources are named it's open season.I
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Old 10-26-2020, 10:18 PM   #14
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Just great, the only real 411 we had from down there.
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:22 PM   #15
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Dang - just got back in town - Buggs and Chivis will be missed.
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:26 PM   #16
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Does anyone understand the politics of this?? To me, it's like sharing links of already published 411 & not sure how a site like this could be shut down with the 1st amendment...there is literally nothing they share that couldn't be found on other media.
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:36 PM   #17
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Does anyone understand the politics of this?? To me, it's like sharing links of already published 411 & not sure how a site like this could be shut down with the 1st amendment...there is literally nothing they share that couldn't be found on other media.
See my above post. The politics are intimidation, the cartel has made it clear they want complete control over any reporting and journalism coming from Mexico. A civil trial and pre-trial depositions expose the names and (more importantly family names) of any contributors and reporters to the cartel with the resulting retaliation.

It has nothing to do with winning or losing the trial, or the cost of litigation. It's about fear and intimidation, you're talking about organizations who rape, torture and murder innocent lives for no reason, other than they can.

I met with a couple of the original BB contributors when I spent some time in Mx courtesy of Uncle Sam, they were under fire back then and have kept on going. Hate to see this happen. Might get dismissed, but depends on what judge gets assigned the case.
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:42 PM   #18
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Artos - they can win but at what cost. I had read a couple of articles over the years where Buggs stated that the site was a shoestring operation with volunteer translators.
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:07 PM   #19
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Agreed, but BB is run in the US...if a capo from Mex can sue to get a US blog to close down, then why aren't other blogs getting sued that follow a narrative of opposing views??

Seems to me soros could shut down every conservative blog there is as most live on she strings...at some point this is an easy 1st amendment win & shouldn't even be filed. It's just vague to me with the limited info.
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Old 10-27-2020, 05:10 PM   #20
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I could be totally off base here, but it's probably not all related to the threat of the lawsuit that caused BB to shut down. Those guys weren't making much money to begin with, the fear of litigation cost coupled with the very real fear of intimidation probably made them pause to decide what to do.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything, you just have to have the financial or legal resources necessary to weather the storm if you happen to be on the right side of the law. Sure, the first amendment will eventually prevail but at what cost, and how long can the offended party remain solvent, protect sources etc.

What is the first step of civil litigation? File a few motions then start depositions. Once depositions begin, those guys are screwed big time, they're going to face very challenging Q&A about their reporting and go on the record. It will make them more of a target than they are currently.

Multi-million (9 figure) litigation happens daily in the US, one party may be totally in the right, but the other party uses costly litigation to force a settlement. Why, because one party has the time, resources and staying power to litigate the other party into compliance or oblivion.

Definitely not ethical in my book, but it happens way too often.
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:49 PM   #21
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Does anyone understand the politics of this?? To me, it's like sharing links of already published 411 & not sure how a site like this could be shut down with the 1st amendment...there is literally nothing they share that couldn't be found on other media.

Yes but that is not how are judicial system works. I know of numerous people who were sued on garbage issues but wasted thousands of dollars to defend themselves. In the end no legit case but they are still out the money. BB has no money so no choice but to shut down. Sux but this is our system.


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