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Old 01-03-2020, 06:43 PM   #1
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Iím 99% sure my dog just sneezed this out. What is it?


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Old 01-03-2020, 06:48 PM   #2
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Looks like a butterfly cocoon.
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:48 PM   #3
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botfly larvae?

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Old 01-03-2020, 06:50 PM   #4
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That should make him feel better. Made my eyes water just thinking about it.
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:51 PM   #5
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Do dogs get nasal bots? That what it looks like
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:53 PM   #6
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Definitely the pupae stage of some insect. Put it in a jar and see what comes out.
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:54 PM   #7
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Bot fly larvae is my guess


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Old 01-03-2020, 06:56 PM   #8
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Do dogs get nasal bots? That what it looks like
That was my first thought but itís not wiggling around like every other bot fly larvae Iíve seen in deer. It seems to be in a shell of some sort?

Sheís been sneezing and gagging a lot the last two weeks. To be fair, she had a traumatic injury to her eye and frontal sinus area back in November so we all, including the vets, assumed the sneezing was related to the previous injury.
She just had sneeze attack, I turned around and saw that wet thing lying on the ground.
I immediately thought fly larvae but doesnít look like ones Iíve seen in deer.
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:57 PM   #9
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Rut ro... Alien
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:58 PM   #10
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Might be a grub worm pupae (aka June Bug)
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Old 01-03-2020, 07:05 PM   #11
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Definitely the pupae stage of some insect. Take a photo and see if your Vets office can identify it.
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Old 01-03-2020, 07:19 PM   #12
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Bottle it and take it to the vet.

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Old 01-03-2020, 07:30 PM   #13
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I bet she feels better now!
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:24 PM   #14
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Eeeewwwww!




Thatís all I got...
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:33 PM   #15
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I've seen that larva somewhere before. But can't remember it's name!


Must be GOF related.....The remembering part!
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:35 PM   #16
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:36 PM   #17
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Could be a mere coincidence it was on the ground right there too.
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:50 PM   #18
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I did a reverse google image and this is the closest I could find...

Maybe she had it in her mouth and it was a coincidence that it shot out when she sneezed?

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Old 01-03-2020, 10:20 PM   #19
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Could be a mere coincidence it was on the ground right there too.
Possible but then why was it just lying on the driveway? She could have gotten it in her mouth and spit it out when she sneezed but that just seems odd.

I was thinking Cuterebra (warbles) but emergence at the pupal stage doesn't make sense as they are supposed to emerge as larva and pictures of the pupa of cuterebra look very different.

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Old 01-03-2020, 10:26 PM   #20
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Pupa stage of a moth. Not sure what kind. They are often found in soil.

That is my best guess
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Old 01-03-2020, 10:28 PM   #21
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I think its called a chrysalis.
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Old 01-03-2020, 10:29 PM   #22
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It’s the same thing that joker from Silence of the Lambs use to put in people’s throats. You need to MOVE
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:08 AM   #23
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How is she feeling?
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:09 AM   #24
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Might be a grub worm pupae (aka June Bug)
This is what I was thinking. See several in the yard under the leaves when I take this time if year. Looks similar anyway.
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:57 AM   #25
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I excised the picture and sent it to the veterinary lab (my buddy who is a vet). We'll see what his opinion might be.
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Old 01-04-2020, 06:08 AM   #26
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Itís the same thing that joker from Silence of the Lambs use to put in peopleís throats. You need to MOVE
I was thinking that too!

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Old 01-04-2020, 06:50 AM   #27
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Pretty unlikely that came out of your dog.
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Old 01-04-2020, 07:15 AM   #28
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Nasty. I guess if by some chance that did come from the dog, I bet she feels much better now.
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Old 01-04-2020, 07:25 AM   #29
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:44 AM   #30
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tens-nose.html

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Old 01-04-2020, 10:12 AM   #31
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I think its called a chrysalis.
Yes.

Sika...Ill wager that it randomly ended up your dogs nose...I believe you run hounds so...not a surprise. No further health danger should be posed.
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:15 AM   #32
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Moth pupae. Which species? I’m uncertain.
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:17 AM   #33
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Old 01-04-2020, 11:50 AM   #34
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Do you want to come on in for a minute? I think I got that card somewhere you are looking for....
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:07 PM   #35
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https://www.petful.com/pet-health/cuterebra-treatment/

Maybe this?

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Old 01-04-2020, 01:40 PM   #36
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I need an insect expert to tell me if itís some kind of nasal bot pupa or cuterebra. If itís something thatís a harmful parasite I need to know so I can take her to a vet to get checked for more.

If itís a moth it most likely just got snorted up and sneezed out or stuck to the roof of her mouth and I donít need to worry.

From what Iím reading on the internet, a bot doesnít pupate in its host so that wouldnít make much sense. If it doesnít make sense to me, it probably wonít make sense to the vet either, unless by some chance heís seen it before.

She sneezed a couple times this morning but nothing crazy


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Old 01-04-2020, 02:43 PM   #37
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Bot Fly in the pupae stage. Its about to sprout wings and fly. See them in deer all the time.
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Old 01-04-2020, 05:07 PM   #38
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If the dog did indeed sneeze it out my vote is nasal bot. Just watched an episode of meat eater where they are Mexico and they check the deers nasal cavity for it and sure enough there were some in it. Claims the deer sneeze them out at some point. They are introduced by a fly leaving eggs in the nasal passage some how.


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Old 01-04-2020, 05:32 PM   #39
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Old 01-04-2020, 05:36 PM   #40
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I need an insect expert to tell me if itís some kind of nasal bot pupa or cuterebra. If itís something thatís a harmful parasite I need to know so I can take her to a vet to get checked for more.

If itís a moth it most likely just got snorted up and sneezed out or stuck to the roof of her mouth and I donít need to worry.

From what Iím reading on the internet, a bot doesnít pupate in its host so that wouldnít make much sense. If it doesnít make sense to me, it probably wonít make sense to the vet either, unless by some chance heís seen it before.

She sneezed a couple times this morning but nothing crazy


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Iím not guessing. It is a moth.
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Old 01-05-2020, 01:06 PM   #41
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If the dog did indeed sneeze it out my vote is nasal bot. Just watched an episode of meat eater where they are Mexico and they check the deers nasal cavity for it and sure enough there were some in it. Claims the deer sneeze them out at some point. They are introduced by a fly leaving eggs in the nasal passage some how.


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Google it. Its pretty amazing and nasty at the same time, how a Botfly lays eggs.
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