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Old 11-29-2015, 08:30 PM   #1
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Looking into their lineup and like what i see... Anyone shoot them? Good/bad?
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:33 PM   #2
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Mudslinger has one, he's fond of it. I would get in touch with him.
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Old 12-01-2015, 01:37 AM   #3
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The only dealer I know of still operating in Texas was out by Lubbock last I checked.

I emailed the company last year asking about where I could locate a dealer in Texas but they never emailed me back. Of course, this was near January so they could have been busy with the ATA show.

Mudslinger is still shooting a Speed Pro X10 as I recall, and it was really fast with a 560gr arrow. I wanna say he was getting speeds in the 280s @ 70/29. They're known for being really fast bows. Also... Bloodtrail used to shoot an Iron Mace, but that was one of their 08' models.

Good luck if you can find a dealer! Most of the people that I know who have shot one have spoken highly of them.
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They are great bows.
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I had an iron mace when it was new, great bow. I was kinda cheating because it was 99%let off. still miss it. you will be happy with it
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I have an HCA speed pro that was supposed to be my back up and my target/tournament bow which now sits in the closet since my shoulder surgery. It has 80 lbs. limbs and shoots extremely fast. I have worked my way back to pulling on my 70 lbs. bow and hope to be able to use the HCA at some point in the spring. If you make it to the Del Rio area your welcome to shoot it if you by chance are left handed.
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I gave him the name and number to a dealer in Midland.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:35 AM   #8
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HCA produces some real good shooting bows and they hold their speed in hunt set ups. I have had several over the past many years, Machined Supreme, Ultra Extreme, Carbon Lite Speed, etc.
I bought the speed pro when they first came out several years back and all they have done is gotten better. I have the 2015 Speed Pro X10 and it shoots real good, I like it. You will find that it has a deeper valley than most bows which some people do not like, but if you shoot it enough you adjust to it and its great.
Unlike most I do not shoot carbons out of mine , I still shoot aluminums with QAD Drop Away with 3 inch fletch and still get 320+ FPS.
Nothing wrong with many bows on the market today but HCA is one of the finest but do to lack of dealers in the area you just don't hear a lot of people shooting them. You can't go wrong with one, you would like the Axis and if you check it out they are coming out with the new X-12 for 2016.

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i wont be able to get out and shoot one since i dont have a dealer close at all. ill just have to order one and find out. i DO like a longer valley, how is the back wall? i shoot back tension and like a solid wall.
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i am really close to pulling the trigger on the axis. i currently shoot a 30" dl on both my bows and a 7/8" d loop to get the trigger into my first knuckle. im 6'3" with a wing span of 78 1/2" wing span. i am looking at getting the 31" mod.
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i wont be able to get out and shoot one since i dont have a dealer close at all. ill just have to order one and find out. i DO like a longer valley, how is the back wall? i shoot back tension and like a solid wall.
Back wall is sweet , I think it has the most improved back wall very solid.

Where are you located?
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:17 AM   #12
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i am really close to pulling the trigger on the axis. i currently shoot a 30" dl on both my bows and a 7/8" d loop to get the trigger into my first knuckle. im 6'3" with a wing span of 78 1/2" wing span. i am looking at getting the 31" mod.
Last email from Nathan he did not have any Axis ready but they were shut down for year end inventory. He should have them now and if not he can have it ready in a week.
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Last email from Nathan he did not have any Axis ready but they were shut down for year end inventory. He should have them now and if not he can have it ready in a week.

What's the specs on an Axis??
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What's the specs on an Axis??
Specs:

Cam: X-2


Limb: 12 3/4″ Quad Split limbs


ATA: 32.125″ inches


Brace: 7.5″ inches


Peak Draw Weights 60, 70


Draw Lengths** 26″- 32″ modular


Speed up to 330-335 FPS IBO
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here are the specs on the X-12


New X-12

Features:

•Light 3.8 pound with Forged Aluminum Riser


•Smooth drawing and adjustable Trinary II Cam (80% Letoff)


•Barnesdale 13″ 6-layer Laminate limbs with Silver/Black Carbon


•BCY X Premium Custom Bowstrings


•Draw-Length Adjustment 27″-30.5″ without a Bow Press


•HCA’s Patented Rollerguard System


•Solid Stop String Silencer


•New HCA Laser Engraved Grip





The Speed Pro X-12 has a smooth draw and comfortable back wall with the Trinary Cams, giving the bow the shootability that everyone has come to love!


Specifications

Cam T-2 Trinary


Limb 13″ Solid Limbs


Axle-to-Axle 33.125″ inches

Brace Height 7″ inches

Peak Draw Weights 60, 70,


Draw Lengths ** 27″- 30.5″ adjustment


Speed up to 340-345 FPS IBO
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:24 AM   #16
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:35 AM   #17
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Ok, I know a dealer closer to you that I deal with, I am not a dealer yet but trying to talk with Nathan about becoming one.

PM Inbound with the name and number for the guy closer to you.
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here are the specs on the X-12





New X-12



Features:



•Light 3.8 pound with Forged Aluminum Riser





•Smooth drawing and adjustable Trinary II Cam (80% Letoff)





•Barnesdale 13″ 6-layer Laminate limbs with Silver/Black Carbon





•BCY X Premium Custom Bowstrings





•Draw-Length Adjustment 27″-30.5″ without a Bow Press





•HCA’s Patented Rollerguard System





•Solid Stop String Silencer





•New HCA Laser Engraved Grip











The Speed Pro X-12 has a smooth draw and comfortable back wall with the Trinary Cams, giving the bow the shootability that everyone has come to love!





Specifications



Cam T-2 Trinary





Limb 13″ Solid Limbs





Axle-to-Axle 33.125″ inches



Brace Height 7″ inches



Peak Draw Weights 60, 70,





Draw Lengths ** 27″- 30.5″ adjustment





Speed up to 340-345 FPS IBO

Ugh! I wish it was 35" ATA or longer.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:57 PM   #19
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You will find that it has a deeper valley than most bows which some people do not like, but if you shoot it enough you adjust to it and its great.
Similar to an Elite? I've always heard that they have a very short valley. If not, then I'm a bit intrigued.
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cant be as short as my bowmadness!
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Trinary cams as in 3 track binary? That's one of the ways the early Elite's got their speed with a 7" brace. I'm back to shooting my 06 Elite's and seeing the speed again over the slow two track "shootability" cams.
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Similar to an Elite? I've always heard that they have a very short valley. If not, then I'm a bit intrigued.
The X-10 Has a very deep valley, the Axis has a shorter valley than the X10.

Be intrigued as it is deeper.
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Ugh! I wish it was 35" ATA or longer.
You need more forgiveness
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You need more forgiveness

Apparently.
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Agree'd shorter ATA is less forgiving than a longer ATA but if your set up right with good mechanics then you should not have an issue.
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Here are the specs of my 2009 Speed Pro
70#'s
29" draw
560 grain arrow. 270 fps
410 grain arrow. 314 fps
If I remember correctly these are the speeds of my heavy, heavy arrows
779 grains. 222 fps
729 grains 212 fps.
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Agree'd shorter ATA is less forgiving than a longer ATA but if your set up right with good mechanics then you should not have an issue.

I've shot em long enough to to know I despise a short ATA bow.
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Ok, I know a dealer closer to you that I deal with, I am not a dealer yet but trying to talk with Nathan about becoming one.

PM Inbound with the name and number for the guy closer to you.
Let us know if you get the dealer nod. I shot them for many years and still would if I could find a dealer somewhat close. Great bows!
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Let us know if you get the dealer nod. I shot them for many years and still would if I could find a dealer somewhat close. Great bows!
Will do , may take a few months but if goes well I will let ya know.
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There is a dealer in the midland area
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LOVE their arrows! Anybody heard when they might be for sale again? No email response from HCA...
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LOVE their arrows! Anybody heard when they might be for sale again? No email response from HCA...
Never again for me. They may be light and stiff for all they are, but when you have one shatter, a brand new one for that, coming out of the bow, you have a tendency not to want to shoot them again. Stiff yes, brittle ABSOLUTELY!
Luckily, I did not get hit with any part of my arrow, but that is the last one I will ever shoot!
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Never again for me. They may be light and stiff for all they are, but when you have one shatter, a brand new one for that, coming out of the bow, you have a tendency not to want to shoot them again. Stiff yes, brittle ABSOLUTELY!

Luckily, I did not get hit with any part of my arrow, but that is the last one I will ever shoot!

Yes they are too brittle.
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Speed Pro arrows are not in production right now and not available. No sign of when they may be available again.

Just FYI I do not shoot speed pro arrows out of my HCA.
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should be ordering the axis this week with an extra mod.....
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Cool, let me know how you like it.
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Cool, let me know how you like it.
Ditto.
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Will do!
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I bought a new HCA in 2000 and took it to Canada for bear hunting. A really good bow that still shoots great.
I don't hunt with it anymore, but it's a good bow.
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I believe Trophy Hunters in Kountze is a HCA dealer.
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I believe Trophy Hunters in Kountze is a HCA dealer.

He is. Or was.
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He is. Or was.
He actually had one of the split limb speed pro's in there last time I was there. That rascal was a shooter!!

I know he has a used speed pro X10 or X12. Someone that needs an awesome bow at a great price (less than $500) that bow is awesome. I wish I would have never sold mine!!!!!
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He actually had one of the split limb speed pro's in there last time I was there. That rascal was a shooter!!



I know he has a used speed pro X10 or X12. Someone that needs an awesome bow at a great price (less than $500) that bow is awesome. I wish I would have never sold mine!!!!!

You ever get ahold of an Obsession or an Xpidition you'll forget all about em.
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You ever get ahold of an Obsession or an Xpidition you'll forget all about em.
Sorry, no you won't!

I really would not know as I have not shot another bow except for a PSE that was a bear to pull and shook like a SOB so I would not know what some of the new bows shoot like. My 09 Speed Pro shoots better than i can and gets speeds as good as most now so why switch and spend a ton of money!

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Sorry, no you won't!

I really would not know as I have not shot another bow except for a PSE that was a bear to pull and shook like a SOB so I would not know what some of the new bows shoot like. My 09 Speed Pro shoots better than i can and gets speeds as good as most now so why switch and spend a ton of money!

Because of the draw cycle.
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I disagree brother, shot them and still like my HCA better
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You ever get ahold of an Obsession or an Xpidition you'll forget all about em.
I have shot both. Really like them. I was going to go to Obsession before going with Darton. The Obsessions in stock wouldn't go my dl 30.5" -31". Love their bows and the company however.
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there are a lot of nice bows out there, but my list is Darton 1st - customer service and draw. Then obsession, then probably my old high country.
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I disagree brother, shot them and still like my HCA better

I let my shoulder not my "want to" pic this time. They won't pull like an addiction will. But it's also a tad slower than the HCA's. But only barely. It just has that slowest model Elite style draw force curve. And you can let it down in a hunting situation without it trying to take off like a greyhound after a rabbit. I'm not going back to a speed bow after getting in that situation this weekend.

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I have shot both. Really like them. I was going to go to Obsession before going with Darton. The Obsessions in stock wouldn't go my dl 30.5" -31". Love their bows and the company however.

You didn't shoot an Addiction then.

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