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#1 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Allen, TX
Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.
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Stopped by the office yesterday and talked to the head honcho. Told him I had heard that a plan was in works for deer hunting by the way of a drawing was being worked on. He just plain said it's not happening. He wants to keep it as a refuge. So basically the adjoining land owners get to benefit from it but us public land guy's don't. Oh well, it was fun hoping it would happen.
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#2 |
Eight Point
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Kaufman
Hunt In: Public Land
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That's too bad. There are some big deer in there.
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#3 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Wylie, TEXAS
Hunt In: TEXAS
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He told me the same thing about Duck hunting.
I went to him and told him all the designated "Duck Hunting" areas on Lavon are either dry or inaccessible by boat or on foot and asked him if it was possible to hunt an area (far from any homes or ramps) near by there that had water and ducks... he said "No, stick to the designated duck hunting areas because the rest are all considered as bird sanctuary" so basically, forget about hunting ducks on Lavon... |
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#4 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Garland
Hunt In: . . . the re-public . . . of Texas
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Man, what a bummer to hear. So, the use of the entire COE area is up to this one officer? I would think something like this would have some public input or a committee would be making these decisions?
I have no doubt I don't have all the information--if anybody can shed some light on how this works, that would be awesome. |
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#5 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Denton County, 9900 Four Horse Trail
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I have no doubt its political, the private property owners around that lake are the ones who got TPWD to open an archery deer season, and I'm sure they would rather not allow there to be public hunting on the COE land bordering theirs. I know the private property owners around hagerman absolutely howled when they started doing the deer hunts there and there have been groups who have lobbied actively to get them stopped since. Its may be matter of who's voice is louder, there is no reason they can't do a few lottery deer hunts on lavon like they do at hagerman, that would not adversley affect the reasource to the point all the deer are going to be wiped out @ lavon.
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#6 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: McKinney, TX
Hunt In: Grayson County / Pottsboro
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We own hagerman border property. The lottery never bothers us. Without that lottery we'd have more poachers I bet.
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#7 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Murphy,TX via New Orleans
Hunt In: AR,LA,MS,AL,TX,IN....
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It is what it is......and as with anything it takes time....took the longest for the county to get a deer season......I see draw hunts....priced at $130 a hunter or whatever the going rate maybe.....lol
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#8 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Johnson Co.
Hunt In: where my Elite takes me!
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Golden, contact him again and ask him who he works for, should be in downtown Fort Worth. Get your ducks (or deer) lined up and go talk with them. They all answer to someone higher. It's public land, pressure is our friend. If there is a huntable population, it should be huntable, if it's a refuge it should be classified as such.
I work in downtown cowtown, let me know if I can be of assistance. |
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#9 | |
Four Point
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Fairview, Tx
Hunt In: Texas, Mexico, Oklahoma, Colorado, Montana,
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#10 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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And the lack of water for ducks isn't really the fault of the COE officers, it's just been super low. There's only two boat ramps open on the whole lake so it's not like they're just doing it to tick duck hunters off. The rest of the lake (the part you can't hunt on) is too close to civilization to hunt on in my opinion. |
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#11 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Allen, TX
Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.
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Oh, I'm sure it is the workings of the surrounding land owners. I'd be willing to bet the COE guy has land that borders it too.
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#12 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Forney
Hunt In: All over the place!
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I dunno where youre hunting but theres plenty of water and ducks..
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#13 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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#14 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Wylie, TEXAS
Hunt In: TEXAS
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I respect your opinion but that doesn't mean I think you're right... Have you seen some of the "designated duck hunting areas" on Lavon in person? one can easily pepper houses from some of them, not to mention the sound of close-up shotgun blasts at dawn hours... The areas I suggested to the COE are several hundred yards away from any houses or roads otherwise I wouldn't have bothered suggesting them... ![]() Last edited by ATI; 08-28-2014 at 07:32 AM. |
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#15 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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Yeah I live 1/4 mile from the COE land that is huntable. I've seen it all up close and personal. And while there may be pockets of land big enough to hunt on the south end of the lake, the vast majority is more populated than the northern end which is why they don't allow hunting. Also the COE doesn't own nearly as much actual land on the south side of the lake, it's mostly (what should be at least) water. I think we as hunters need to understand that hunting is far from the only use of lakes. We shouldn't expect all of it to be open to our needs only. |
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#16 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Wylie, TEXAS
Hunt In: TEXAS
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I wish I lived close to huntable COE land. I live about 6 minutes from Lavon and I also fish Lavon when there's enough water in it.
The areas I want to duck hunt, have not been fishable during the duck season in recent years, just pockets of shallow water perfect for duck hunting from a layout blind... ![]() |
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#17 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Forney
Hunt In: All over the place!
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#18 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Murphy,TX via New Orleans
Hunt In: AR,LA,MS,AL,TX,IN....
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Best duck hunting I've seen was when the lake was at its lowest point one year..
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#19 |
Nubbin' Buck
Join Date: Aug 2014
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is there any good hog hunting there
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#20 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Forney
Hunt In: All over the place!
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Nope
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#21 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Murphy,TX via New Orleans
Hunt In: AR,LA,MS,AL,TX,IN....
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#22 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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#23 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Denton County, 9900 Four Horse Trail
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#24 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: N. DFW
Hunt In: Childress, Brady
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#25 |
Four Point
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Lavon is always a fun hunt. Won't be hunting it till by son learns how to dodge steel shot.
It would be nice if they opened a lottery for deer there, archery only. |
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#26 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Allen, TX
Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.
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The swine on unit 2 must be getting worse. I noticed the other day Neil Sperry fenced his place off with hog wire.
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#27 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: McKinney
Hunt In: Young County
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#28 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: N. DFW
Hunt In: Childress, Brady
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Lots of sign of hogs in that unit. Im hunting in one of the units around there and had a young spike walk out yesterday. Scared the poo outta him lol
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#29 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Denton County, 9900 Four Horse Trail
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#30 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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#31 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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#32 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Decatur, Texas
Hunt In: Wise/Montague/Public land
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The best way to effect change on public lands is to write your Congressman.
Public land managers hate to get congressional inquiries. They have to respond and justify their decisions. |
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#33 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Allen, TX
Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.
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#34 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Denton County, 9900 Four Horse Trail
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I appears an archery deer draw @ lavon has been shot down again this year. I do wish they would publish their biological data showing the continued reasoning for this decision, collin county now has a deer season and most if not all of its deer live in and around the this lake and the drainages running into it. Again if they want to keep it as a refuge why not do a smaller hagerman like draw.
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#35 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Forney
Hunt In: All over the place!
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One day buddy.. one day
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#36 |
Ten Point
![]() Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: anna
Hunt In: muenster
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Just a thought, but there are at least a couple dozen deer killed on 380 every year by my best guess. If some one had the time to photograph all the carcasses and accident damage caused it may help build a case for a management program.
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#37 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Plano
Hunt In: Glen Rose, TX, Hico, TX, Eufaula, OK
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What are you guys talking about? I've been hunting deer on Lavon for years. Some big bucks out there!
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#38 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Wylie, TEXAS
Hunt In: TEXAS
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I'm beginning to think, the head honcho at the Lavon COE office is either a Hippie or a PETA member... He frowns on hunting and fishing....
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#39 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Fort Worth, Plano
Hunt In: Have bow, will travel
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http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/Zip.aspx
Find out who your representative is and mail them! I've been doing the same with a piece of public land on the other side of the metroplex that doesn't allow spring turkey but has a season. |
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#40 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Josephine
Hunt In: grayson/jack co.
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So id be interested in someone answering this question because I'm just curious... Denton County has been huntable for sometime now... when did lake grapevine become a lottery hunt?
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#41 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Forney
Hunt In: All over the place!
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For sevvvveral years!
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#42 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Josephine
Hunt In: grayson/jack co.
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#43 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Forney
Hunt In: All over the place!
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Ohhhh my bad!
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#44 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Josephine
Hunt In: grayson/jack co.
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Nah its all good.. It was confusing..
I would be interested to know also how the deer population grew on the vine as the surrounding areas became urbanized. |
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#45 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Denton County, 9900 Four Horse Trail
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Call me crazy but I'm guessing the bordering landowners might not want a deer hunt out there EVER!
https://www.facebook.com/lonestarout...type=3&theater ![]() Last edited by bossbowman; 12-07-2016 at 03:25 PM. |
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#46 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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#47 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Fort Worth, Plano
Hunt In: Have bow, will travel
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Until enough hunters raise enough hell, contact their congressmen, and make the Corp of Engineer manager's life a pain in the butt, nothing is going to change.
CoE folks like to do as little as possible, and have as little headaches as possible. I know this for a fact since I am friends with one of the local lake managers. His recommendation was to continuously raise a fuss. Thats EXACTLY what homeowners do to get duck hunting shut down in coves near housing additions. If hunters did the same, they would probably react. |
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#48 | |
Eight Point
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: rockwall
Hunt In: Right now lets go
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#49 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Josephine
Hunt In: grayson/jack co.
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#50 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mckinney
Hunt In: Baylor County,Collin County
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