Update: Lavon COE deer hunting. - TexasBowhunter.com Community Discussion Forums

Goldeneagle · 08-07-2014, 08:20 AM

Stopped by the office yesterday and talked to the head honcho. Told him I had heard that a plan was in works for deer hunting by the way of a drawing was being worked on. He just plain said it's not happening. He wants to keep it as a refuge. So basically the adjoining land owners get to benefit from it but us public land guy's don't. Oh well, it was fun hoping it would happen.

DavidH44 · 08-07-2014, 08:23 AM

That's too bad. There are some big deer in there.

ATI · 08-07-2014, 08:26 AM

He told me the same thing about Duck hunting.

I went to him and told him all the designated "Duck Hunting" areas on Lavon are either dry or inaccessible by boat or on foot and asked him if it was possible to hunt an area (far from any homes or ramps) near by there that had water and ducks... he said "No, stick to the designated duck hunting areas because the rest are all considered as bird sanctuary" so basically, forget about hunting ducks on Lavon...

woodsman · 08-07-2014, 04:34 PM

Man, what a bummer to hear. So, the use of the entire COE area is up to this one officer? I would think something like this would have some public input or a committee would be making these decisions?

I have no doubt I don't have all the information--if anybody can shed some light on how this works, that would be awesome.

bossbowman · 08-08-2014, 10:15 AM

I have no doubt its political, the private property owners around that lake are the ones who got TPWD to open an archery deer season, and I'm sure they would rather not allow there to be public hunting on the COE land bordering theirs. I know the private property owners around hagerman absolutely howled when they started doing the deer hunts there and there have been groups who have lobbied actively to get them stopped since. Its may be matter of who's voice is louder, there is no reason they can't do a few lottery deer hunts on lavon like they do at hagerman, that would not adversley affect the reasource to the point all the deer are going to be wiped out @ lavon.

mdmorrow · 08-08-2014, 10:21 AM

We own hagerman border property. The lottery never bothers us. Without that lottery we'd have more poachers I bet.

HR3 · 08-08-2014, 05:01 PM

It is what it is......and as with anything it takes time....took the longest for the county to get a deer season......I see draw hunts....priced at $130 a hunter or whatever the going rate maybe.....lol

Razorback01 · 08-08-2014, 07:02 PM

Golden, contact him again and ask him who he works for, should be in downtown Fort Worth. Get your ducks (or deer) lined up and go talk with them. They all answer to someone higher. It's public land, pressure is our friend. If there is a huntable population, it should be huntable, if it's a refuge it should be classified as such.

I work in downtown cowtown, let me know if I can be of assistance.

aerangis · 08-15-2014, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ATI

He told me the same thing about Duck hunting.

I went to him and told him all the designated "Duck Hunting" areas on Lavon are either dry or inaccessible by boat or on foot and asked him if it was possible to hunt an area (far from any homes or ramps) near by there that had water and ducks... he said "No, stick to the designated duck hunting areas because the rest are all considered as bird sanctuary" so basically, forget about hunting ducks on Lavon...

The water conservation board has ruined Lake Lavon. I live near the lake, and the duck hunting has sucked for the last 6-8 years. The areas zoned for duck hunting has ZERO water. Been that way for years.

JustinJ · 08-15-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Razorback01

Golden, contact him again and ask him who he works for, should be in downtown Fort Worth. Get your ducks (or deer) lined up and go talk with them. They all answer to someone higher. It's public land, pressure is our friend. If there is a huntable population, it should be huntable, if it's a refuge it should be classified as such.

I work in downtown cowtown, let me know if I can be of assistance.

This! It's our land. If there is a sustainable population of deer (which I'm not 100% sure there is) they should, and eventually probably will, allow a hunt.

And the lack of water for ducks isn't really the fault of the COE officers, it's just been super low. There's only two boat ramps open on the whole lake so it's not like they're just doing it to tick duck hunters off. The rest of the lake (the part you can't hunt on) is too close to civilization to hunt on in my opinion.

Goldeneagle · 08-16-2014, 10:08 AM

Oh, I'm sure it is the workings of the surrounding land owners. I'd be willing to bet the COE guy has land that borders it too.

BassProJD · 08-28-2014, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by aerangis

The water conservation board has ruined Lake Lavon. I live near the lake, and the duck hunting has sucked for the last 6-8 years. The areas zoned for duck hunting has ZERO water. Been that way for years.

I dunno where youre hunting but theres plenty of water and ducks..

JustinJ · 08-28-2014, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BassProJD

I dunno where youre hunting but theres plenty of water and ducks..

LOL plenty of water? There's two boat ramps open on the whole lake, both of which are one the south end. How are you even getting to water (with cover) that holds ducks?

ATI · 08-28-2014, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinJanow

This! It's our land. If there is a sustainable population of deer (which I'm not 100% sure there is) they should, and eventually probably will, allow a hunt.

And the lack of water for ducks isn't really the fault of the COE officers, it's just been super low. There's only two boat ramps open on the whole lake so it's not like they're just doing it to tick duck hunters off. The rest of the lake (the part you can't hunt on) is too close to civilization to hunt on in my opinion.

I wouldn't suggest hunting an area if I knew it was too close to "civilization", houses, roads and etc...
I respect your opinion but that doesn't mean I think you're right... Have you seen some of the "designated duck hunting areas" on Lavon in person? one can easily pepper houses from some of them, not to mention the sound of close-up shotgun blasts at dawn hours... The areas I suggested to the COE are several hundred yards away from any houses or roads otherwise I wouldn't have bothered suggesting them...

JustinJ · 08-28-2014, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ATI

I wouldn't suggest hunting an area if I knew it was too close to "civilization", houses, roads and etc...
I respect your opinion but that doesn't mean I think you're right... Have you seen some of the "designated duck hunting areas" on Lavon in person? one can easily pepper houses from some of them, not to mention the sound of close-up shotgun blasts at dawn hours... The areas I suggested to the COE are several hundred yards away from any houses or roads otherwise I wouldn't have bothered suggesting them...

Yeah I live 1/4 mile from the COE land that is huntable. I've seen it all up close and personal. And while there may be pockets of land big enough to hunt on the south end of the lake, the vast majority is more populated than the northern end which is why they don't allow hunting. Also the COE doesn't own nearly as much actual land on the south side of the lake, it's mostly (what should be at least) water.

I think we as hunters need to understand that hunting is far from the only use of lakes. We shouldn't expect all of it to be open to our needs only.

ATI · 08-28-2014, 10:45 AM

I wish I lived close to huntable COE land. I live about 6 minutes from Lavon and I also fish Lavon when there's enough water in it.
The areas I want to duck hunt, have not been fishable during the duck season in recent years, just pockets of shallow water perfect for duck hunting from a layout blind...

BassProJD · 08-29-2014, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinJanow

LOL plenty of water? There's two boat ramps open on the whole lake, both of which are one the south end. How are you even getting to water (with cover) that holds ducks?

well i guess u just gotta know what youre doing...

u gotta mountain bike?

HR3 · 08-29-2014, 07:51 PM

Best duck hunting I've seen was when the lake was at its lowest point one year..

.....for the walk in guys that is.....lol....I had to start by shells by the case....lol....

boatsandhoes54 · 09-04-2014, 07:33 PM

is there any good hog hunting there

BassProJD · 09-05-2014, 05:31 PM

HR3 · 09-08-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HR3

Best duck hunting I've seen was when the lake was at its lowest point one year..

.....for the walk in guys that is.....lol....I had to start by shells by the case....lol....

I need to retract part of this statement...............I've never seen the the lake as low as it is now......barely any water on the north/west portion.....goodness.....saw very few ducks today......

JustinJ · 09-08-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HR3

I need to retract part of this statement...............I've never seen the the lake as low as it is now......barely any water on the north/west portion.....goodness.....saw very few ducks today......

LOL it is VERY low. Pretty sad actually.

bossbowman · 09-10-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BassProJD

Nope

Liar

ultralite09 · 09-10-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BassProJD

I dunno where youre hunting but theres plenty of water and ducks..

Shhhh.....

Come on Saturday!!!

Txtac · 09-18-2014, 01:37 AM

Lavon is always a fun hunt. Won't be hunting it till by son learns how to dodge steel shot.
It would be nice if they opened a lottery for deer there, archery only.

Goldeneagle · 09-18-2014, 07:20 AM

The swine on unit 2 must be getting worse. I noticed the other day Neil Sperry fenced his place off with hog wire.

Sparkles · 09-18-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldeneagle

The swine on unit 2 must be getting worse. I noticed the other day Neil Sperry fenced his place off with hog wire.

He's been trapping them for a yr or two also

ultralite09 · 09-18-2014, 08:19 AM

Lots of sign of hogs in that unit. Im hunting in one of the units around there and had a young spike walk out yesterday. Scared the poo outta him lol

bossbowman · 09-18-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldeneagle

The swine on unit 2 must be getting worse. I noticed the other day Neil Sperry fenced his place off with hog wire.

The gardening guy on the radio owns property that borders lavon COE?, well that explains alot

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JustinJ · 09-18-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldeneagle

The swine on unit 2 must be getting worse. I noticed the other day Neil Sperry fenced his place off with hog wire.

Live near him. Noticed the same thing.

JustinJ · 09-18-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bossbowman

The gardening guy on the radio owns property that borders lavon COE?, well that explains alot

...

It's close but doesn't border it at all. About 500 yards away with a road in between

Froggy · 09-18-2014, 11:10 AM

The best way to effect change on public lands is to write your Congressman.

Public land managers hate to get congressional inquiries. They have to respond and justify their decisions.

Goldeneagle · 09-19-2014, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bossbowman

The gardening guy on the radio owns property that borders lavon COE?, well that explains alot

...

He's pretty cool. I stopped and talked to him one day. The hunting doesn't bother him. He's more into gardening than wildlife.

bossbowman · 06-20-2016, 10:04 AM

I appears an archery deer draw @ lavon has been shot down again this year. I do wish they would publish their biological data showing the continued reasoning for this decision, collin county now has a deer season and most if not all of its deer live in and around the this lake and the drainages running into it. Again if they want to keep it as a refuge why not do a smaller hagerman like draw.

BassProJD · 06-27-2016, 11:51 PM

One day buddy.. one day

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gumbl3 · 06-28-2016, 06:12 AM

Just a thought, but there are at least a couple dozen deer killed on 380 every year by my best guess. If some one had the time to photograph all the carcasses and accident damage caused it may help build a case for a management program.

ttubudd · 06-28-2016, 08:23 AM

What are you guys talking about? I've been hunting deer on Lavon for years. Some big bucks out there!

ATI · 06-28-2016, 08:32 AM

I'm beginning to think, the head honcho at the Lavon COE office is either a Hippie or a PETA member... He frowns on hunting and fishing....

Kirby86 · 08-08-2016, 12:23 PM

http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/Zip.aspx

Find out who your representative is and mail them!

I've been doing the same with a piece of public land on the other side of the metroplex that doesn't allow spring turkey but has a season.

jfalcone8 · 08-21-2016, 08:58 PM

So id be interested in someone answering this question because I'm just curious... Denton County has been huntable for sometime now... when did lake grapevine become a lottery hunt?

BassProJD · 08-21-2016, 09:03 PM

For sevvvveral years!

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jfalcone8 · 08-21-2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BassProJD

For sevvvveral years!

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I know that, but my point is how long did it take the lake to open up the lottery in comparison to how long the county had already been huntable..

BassProJD · 08-21-2016, 09:06 PM

Ohhhh my bad!

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jfalcone8 · 08-21-2016, 09:28 PM

Nah its all good.. It was confusing..

I would be interested to know also how the deer population grew on the vine as the surrounding areas became urbanized.

bossbowman · 12-07-2016, 03:19 PM

Call me crazy but I'm guessing the bordering landowners might not want a deer hunt out there EVER!

https://www.facebook.com/lonestarout...type=3&theater

JustinJ · 12-07-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bossbowman

Call me crazy but I'm guessing the bordering landowners might not want a deer hunt out there EVER!
https://www.facebook.com/lonestarout...type=3&theater

They don't border Lavon COE. But there are some monsters on that land.

Kirby86 · 12-07-2016, 09:40 PM

Until enough hunters raise enough hell, contact their congressmen, and make the Corp of Engineer manager's life a pain in the butt, nothing is going to change.

CoE folks like to do as little as possible, and have as little headaches as possible.

I know this for a fact since I am friends with one of the local lake managers.

His recommendation was to continuously raise a fuss. Thats EXACTLY what homeowners do to get duck hunting shut down in coves near housing additions. If hunters did the same, they would probably react.

Pope & Yum · 12-09-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby86

Until enough hunters raise enough hell, contact their congressmen, and make the Corp of Engineer manager's life a pain in the butt, nothing is going to change.

CoE folks like to do as little as possible, and have as little headaches as possible.

I know this for a fact since I am friends with one of the local lake managers.

His recommendation was to continuously raise a fuss. Thats EXACTLY what homeowners do to get duck hunting shut down in coves near housing additions. If hunters did the same, they would probably react.

This subject has been ticking me off for some time now. I have seen pics of some absolute giants that have been taken around the corp land since archery opened up in Collin county. Haven't hunted hogs out there in a couple years, but would often bump a few whitetail when walking around out there. If the population supports it, it should be allowed. Would love to have the opportunity to hunt down the street! Time to start raising some hell.

jfalcone8 · 12-09-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinJ

They don't border Lavon COE. But there are some monsters on that land.

Yea they don't border Lavon but close enough to speculate the genetics are there.

JustinJ · 12-09-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jfalcone8

Yea they don't border Lavon but close enough to speculate the genetics are there.

True. They've definitely got some big ones on the corps land

08-07-2014, 08:20 AM	#1
Goldeneagle Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Allen, TX Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.	Update: Lavon COE deer hunting. Stopped by the office yesterday and talked to the head honcho. Told him I had heard that a plan was in works for deer hunting by the way of a drawing was being worked on. He just plain said it's not happening. He wants to keep it as a refuge. So basically the adjoining land owners get to benefit from it but us public land guy's don't. Oh well, it was fun hoping it would happen.

08-29-2014, 07:51 PM	#18
HR3 Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Murphy,TX via New Orleans Hunt In: AR,LA,MS,AL,TX,IN....	Best duck hunting I've seen was when the lake was at its lowest point one year.......for the walk in guys that is.....lol....I had to start by shells by the case....lol....

06-20-2016, 10:04 AM	#34
bossbowman Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2012 Hunt In: Bosque Grayson Hill McLennan Navarro Williamson Counties	I appears an archery deer draw @ lavon has been shot down again this year. I do wish they would publish their biological data showing the continued reasoning for this decision, collin county now has a deer season and most if not all of its deer live in and around the this lake and the drainages running into it. Again if they want to keep it as a refuge why not do a smaller hagerman like draw. Last edited by bossbowman; 06-20-2016 at 10:08 AM..

12-07-2016, 03:19 PM	#45
bossbowman Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2012 Hunt In: Bosque Grayson Hill McLennan Navarro Williamson Counties	Call me crazy but I'm guessing the bordering landowners might not want a deer hunt out there EVER! https://www.facebook.com/lonestarout...type=3&theater Last edited by bossbowman; 12-07-2016 at 03:25 PM..

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08-07-2014, 08:23 AM	#2
DavidH44 Eight Point Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Kaufman Hunt In: Public Land	That's too bad. There are some big deer in there.

08-07-2014, 08:26 AM	#3
ATI Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Wylie, TEXAS Hunt In: TEXAS	He told me the same thing about Duck hunting. I went to him and told him all the designated "Duck Hunting" areas on Lavon are either dry or inaccessible by boat or on foot and asked him if it was possible to hunt an area (far from any homes or ramps) near by there that had water and ducks... he said "No, stick to the designated duck hunting areas because the rest are all considered as bird sanctuary" so basically, forget about hunting ducks on Lavon...

08-07-2014, 04:34 PM	#4
woodsman Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Garland Hunt In: . . . the re-public . . . of Texas	Man, what a bummer to hear. So, the use of the entire COE area is up to this one officer? I would think something like this would have some public input or a committee would be making these decisions? I have no doubt I don't have all the information--if anybody can shed some light on how this works, that would be awesome.

08-08-2014, 10:15 AM	#5
bossbowman Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2012 Hunt In: Bosque Grayson Hill McLennan Navarro Williamson Counties	I have no doubt its political, the private property owners around that lake are the ones who got TPWD to open an archery deer season, and I'm sure they would rather not allow there to be public hunting on the COE land bordering theirs. I know the private property owners around hagerman absolutely howled when they started doing the deer hunts there and there have been groups who have lobbied actively to get them stopped since. Its may be matter of who's voice is louder, there is no reason they can't do a few lottery deer hunts on lavon like they do at hagerman, that would not adversley affect the reasource to the point all the deer are going to be wiped out @ lavon.

08-08-2014, 10:21 AM	#6
mdmorrow Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: McKinney, TX Hunt In: Grayson County / Pottsboro	We own hagerman border property. The lottery never bothers us. Without that lottery we'd have more poachers I bet.

08-08-2014, 05:01 PM	#7
HR3 Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Murphy,TX via New Orleans Hunt In: AR,LA,MS,AL,TX,IN....	It is what it is......and as with anything it takes time....took the longest for the county to get a deer season......I see draw hunts....priced at $130 a hunter or whatever the going rate maybe.....lol

08-08-2014, 07:02 PM	#8
Razorback01 Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Johnson Co. Hunt In: where my Elite takes me!	Golden, contact him again and ask him who he works for, should be in downtown Fort Worth. Get your ducks (or deer) lined up and go talk with them. They all answer to someone higher. It's public land, pressure is our friend. If there is a huntable population, it should be huntable, if it's a refuge it should be classified as such. I work in downtown cowtown, let me know if I can be of assistance.

08-16-2014, 10:08 AM	#11
Goldeneagle Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Allen, TX Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.	Oh, I'm sure it is the workings of the surrounding land owners. I'd be willing to bet the COE guy has land that borders it too.

08-28-2014, 10:45 AM	#16
ATI Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Wylie, TEXAS Hunt In: TEXAS	I wish I lived close to huntable COE land. I live about 6 minutes from Lavon and I also fish Lavon when there's enough water in it. The areas I want to duck hunt, have not been fishable during the duck season in recent years, just pockets of shallow water perfect for duck hunting from a layout blind...

09-04-2014, 07:33 PM	#19
boatsandhoes54 Nubbin' Buck Join Date: Aug 2014	is there any good hog hunting there

09-05-2014, 05:31 PM	#20
BassProJD Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Forney Hunt In: All over the place!	Nope

09-18-2014, 01:37 AM	#25
Txtac Four Point Join Date: Apr 2014	Lavon is always a fun hunt. Won't be hunting it till by son learns how to dodge steel shot. It would be nice if they opened a lottery for deer there, archery only.

09-18-2014, 07:20 AM	#26
Goldeneagle Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Allen, TX Hunt In: Where ever I get a chance.	The swine on unit 2 must be getting worse. I noticed the other day Neil Sperry fenced his place off with hog wire.

09-18-2014, 08:19 AM	#28
ultralite09 Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: N. DFW Hunt In: Childress, Brady	Lots of sign of hogs in that unit. Im hunting in one of the units around there and had a young spike walk out yesterday. Scared the poo outta him lol

09-18-2014, 11:10 AM	#32
Froggy Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Decatur, Texas Hunt In: Wise/Montague/Public land	The best way to effect change on public lands is to write your Congressman. Public land managers hate to get congressional inquiries. They have to respond and justify their decisions.

06-27-2016, 11:51 PM	#35
BassProJD Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Forney Hunt In: All over the place!	One day buddy.. one day Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

06-28-2016, 06:12 AM	#36
gumbl3 Ten Point Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: anna Hunt In: muenster	Just a thought, but there are at least a couple dozen deer killed on 380 every year by my best guess. If some one had the time to photograph all the carcasses and accident damage caused it may help build a case for a management program.

06-28-2016, 08:23 AM	#37
ttubudd Ten Point Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Plano Hunt In: Glen Rose, TX, Hico, TX, Eufaula, OK	What are you guys talking about? I've been hunting deer on Lavon for years. Some big bucks out there!

06-28-2016, 08:32 AM	#38
ATI Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Wylie, TEXAS Hunt In: TEXAS	I'm beginning to think, the head honcho at the Lavon COE office is either a Hippie or a PETA member... He frowns on hunting and fishing....

08-08-2016, 12:23 PM	#39
Kirby86 Ten Point Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Worth, Plano Hunt In: Have bow, will travel	http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/Zip.aspx Find out who your representative is and mail them! I've been doing the same with a piece of public land on the other side of the metroplex that doesn't allow spring turkey but has a season.

08-21-2016, 08:58 PM	#40
jfalcone8 Ten Point Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Josephine Hunt In: grayson/jack co.	So id be interested in someone answering this question because I'm just curious... Denton County has been huntable for sometime now... when did lake grapevine become a lottery hunt?

08-21-2016, 09:03 PM	#41
BassProJD Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Forney Hunt In: All over the place!	For sevvvveral years! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

08-21-2016, 09:06 PM	#43
BassProJD Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Forney Hunt In: All over the place!	Ohhhh my bad! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

08-21-2016, 09:28 PM	#44
jfalcone8 Ten Point Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Josephine Hunt In: grayson/jack co.	Nah its all good.. It was confusing.. I would be interested to know also how the deer population grew on the vine as the surrounding areas became urbanized.

12-07-2016, 09:40 PM	#47
Kirby86 Ten Point Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Worth, Plano Hunt In: Have bow, will travel	Until enough hunters raise enough hell, contact their congressmen, and make the Corp of Engineer manager's life a pain in the butt, nothing is going to change. CoE folks like to do as little as possible, and have as little headaches as possible. I know this for a fact since I am friends with one of the local lake managers. His recommendation was to continuously raise a fuss. Thats EXACTLY what homeowners do to get duck hunting shut down in coves near housing additions. If hunters did the same, they would probably react.