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Old 06-09-2018, 08:33 PM   #51
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Chevy 6.0s are pretty bullet proof, but you will get similar to worse mileage than a tundra.


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Yep, but it's in an actual truck!


5.4 Ford ranks slightly below a 304 AMC.....gutless when it runs.


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They all make good ones and they all make piles of junk. Everyone is gonna tell you theirs is great and all others are horrible. Go drive a few and buy the truck you like best.
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I have experience with both the tundra and the hemi and you cant go wrong with either of them in my opinion. I drive a 2016 Ram daily as my work truck and put alot of miles on it and on highway only stretches i'm pushing 18MPG with a load of tools in the bed. Overall average is around 16.

I will echo others comments here while dodge/ram has come a long way with the interior the truck still falls apart around the drivetrain.
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:21 PM   #55
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Lol!!! I agree with this!
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:27 PM   #56
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The reality is all of them are good and will last a long time when properly maintained. The Tundra fanboys are almost as rabid as the 7.3 Ford fanboys but the Tundra engine is nearly as old in technology and is way behind overall.

Any of the other big 3 will outperform it and get better fuel mileage doing it.

The 5.7 in the Tundra was groundbreaking when it came out in 2007 but now not so much.

5.3 Chevy is a bit down on power but still a solid, long term choice. Ford has a winner with the 5.0 Coyote engine. The Hemi is showing itís age but still a solid performer and actually gets pretty good fuel mileage.

It really all boils down to which platform you prefer wrapped around the engine.


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6.2 Chevy is a beast, absolutely love mine
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:48 PM   #58
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I’ll probably buy another Tundra when mine plays out. But they seem to all be good now if the Maintenance is done.
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:57 PM   #59
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Love my ford 5.0. 103,000 on my 2015 and not a single hiccup. Super easy to work on also. Changed plugs and coil boots in under 30min, in the auto parts parking lot.


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Old 06-10-2018, 12:44 AM   #60
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6.2 Chevy is a beast, absolutely love mine
Hard to keep from smoking the tires on takeoffs sometimes.
Tuned with an intake. Sheíll scoot pretty good.
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Old 06-10-2018, 04:31 AM   #61
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Old 06-10-2018, 06:16 AM   #62
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been a good read...my un counted count says 5.3 ..ahead.....My personal choice would be on 5.3..Cause I owned most all mentioned and all been Pretty darn good...never owned nissan v8 though..
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Old 06-10-2018, 07:04 PM   #65
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Our last dodge product wasn't very impressive, had power steering leak, transmission cooler leak and fender trim falling off at 100k.

My diesel maintenance isn't much more than my 09 Ford with synthetic oil was.

Steve243 had a post a week or so ago where he picked up a Nissan Titan XD for 38k. Gas engine pickups cant hardly get down to that kinda price.

Otherwise, Chevy 5.3 ( my 2014 Chevy already has paint blistering from rust just above windshield on cab) dealer says looks like rock chips even though the spots are space out evenly every10" all the way across. Ford 5.0 my mom and dad has around 130k on theirs and averages about 18-20mpg.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:17 PM   #66
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So how much do yall think this truck would run? 5.3L V8, 4x4 SLE, leather interior, 45k miles and pretty much loaded out, 2013.



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Old 06-11-2018, 09:25 PM   #67
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Chevy ls motors. 5.3, 6.0. How many off road rigs and hot rods do you see with Toyota and Ford engines swapped into them?

If they are so great people would use them.

I had great luck with my 5.3. It went well over 270,000 before I sold it. It's a tough engine to beat. Especially the older ones that dont shut down cylinders for fuel efficiency.
I agree with what you are saying here but.......


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Old 06-11-2018, 09:44 PM   #68
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ford 6.2 I have the harley version and it's a monster.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:29 PM   #69
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Iím a Ford guy and own a 5.4 Triton - this motor is like a girl you date for 8 years. Iíve got no reason to breakup but definitely no motivation to pop the question.
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So how much do yall think this truck would run? 5.3L V8, 4x4 SLE, leather interior, 45k miles and pretty much loaded out, 2013.



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Just a guess $25-27k
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You have to remember that matted to all these motors will be a tranny. The older 6 speed GM used and the 8 speed ZF on the Ram are light years better and more reliable than the trans on the fords or the newer GM 8 speeds. Also, If you go new Ford or GM don't touch that 10 speed till its been around the block a bit and all the kinks are worked out.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:07 AM   #71
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I have a 2004 GMC 2500HD with the 6.0 It has roughly 250,000 and still going strong so last year I bought a 2017 GMC 2500HD. It also runs great. It is averaging 16+ MPG. I highly recommend one.

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Old 06-12-2018, 07:34 AM   #72
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Just a guess $25-27k
They want 29,900+TTL and said that is as low as they can go. I told them thanks but no thanks so they come back with 29k+TTL (roughly 3k more) and now that was the absolute lowest they could go. They should of gave me that number the first go around. I'm going to keep looking.

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Old 06-12-2018, 07:38 AM   #73
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Do some reading on the 5.3 with cylinder deactivation, may change your mind wanting one.

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Old 06-12-2018, 07:48 AM   #74
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I got a 2014 Silverado with a 6.2 liter and it is the strongest engine I've ever owned including some my hotrods.
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Chevy 6.2!!!!
Chevy needs to pull their head outta their back side and offer it in a 2500.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:56 AM   #76
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Do some reading on the 5.3 with cylinder deactivation, may change your mind wanting one.
I've read up on it and didn't see anything that should scare me away?

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Old 06-12-2018, 08:01 AM   #77
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I will put this blunt, they burn oil and are known to sear off cam shafts. Personally have seen this happen in 2 (5.3) trucks and 1 (6.0 vortex max) (2007.5-2013 year trucks). Personally drive a 2015 tundra with 162,000 miles, expect 300k before any major repairs.
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:15 AM   #79
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I thought I remember people having issues with the 5.3 afm turning cylinders off/on causing problems with burning up cylinders. I was suprised to not see anyone mention if before.
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My dad’s ‘08 suburban with the 5.3 smoked the motor at 165k. It was due to the afm I believe.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:06 AM   #81
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Another vote for more Chevy 6.2 offerings.

Guessing there could be a challenge with current or upcoming mpg regulations/taxes. Anyone know facts on this?

We were disappointed with the rear engine seal failure that occurred on the wife's truck with this engine at under 60k. S*#t happens.
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I thought I remember people having issues with the 5.3 afm turning cylinders off/on causing problems with burning up cylinders. I was suprised to not see anyone mention if before.
That's why I mentioned 5.3 without cylinder deactivation in my post above. I believe the issue has been resolved though.

Here is one way to not have to worry about it, an arm disabled. It keeps it working like the older engines, 8 cylinders all the time. https://rangetechnology.com/afm-disabler/
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Chevy 6.2!!!!
Chevy needs to pull their head outta their back side and offer it in a 2500.


The 6.0 is better suited for pulling and has shown to be a strong performer in the 2500 HD. The 6.2 is tuned differently.


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I'm a ford guy but my wife's 13' Tahoe has been good. The interior is a different story.
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I have a 2004 GMC 2500HD with the 6.0 It has roughly 250,000 and still going strong so last year I bought a 2017 GMC 2500HD. It also runs great. It is averaging 16+ MPG. I highly recommend one.



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2wd? My running average is 9.14. Thatís a bunch of stop and go. Tires are 285ís.


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Dash? I helped my dad swap a new one in my moms. What a pain!
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Dash? I helped my dad swap a new one in my moms. What a pain!


I put a cap in my truck. FIL did the same on their Tahoe. Cheap plastic sucks.


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The 6.0 is better suited for pulling and has shown to be a strong performer in the 2500 HD. The 6.2 is tuned differently.


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That's exactly right & why it's offered in the 1500 & the LT1 & LT4 configuration in the Vette & Camaro line up.

Again, the 6.0 is one reliable gasser if you can get past the mileage.
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Do some reading on the 5.3 with cylinder deactivation, may change your mind wanting one.
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I will put this blunt, they burn oil and are known to sear off cam shafts. Personally have seen this happen in 2 (5.3) trucks and 1 (6.0 vortex max) (2007.5-2013 year trucks). Personally drive a 2015 tundra with 162,000 miles, expect 300k before any major repairs.
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I thought I remember people having issues with the 5.3 afm turning cylinders off/on causing problems with burning up cylinders. I was suprised to not see anyone mention if before.
I believe that was all resolved in 2012 and up.
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I believe that was all resolved in 2012 and up.
I honestly don't know but I deactivated the gas saving / cylinder skip on my 5.7 Hemi Durango with a tune...you need the spark plug firing every time to keep the rings expanding.

I don't 'think' I had this going on with my 2011 2500 6.0 & thought it was limited to the SUV's with the 5.3??
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Nope 4X4. I have made no changes to it. It is exactly like it left the factory. I live out in the sticks so most of my miles come from highway driving.

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I honestly don't know but I deactivated the gas saving / cylinder skip on my 5.7 Hemi Durango with a tune...you need the spark plug firing every time to keep the rings expanding.

I don't 'think' I had this going on with my 2011 2500 6.0 & thought it was limited to the SUV's with the 5.3??
Please explain what the spark plug firing has to do with the rings sealing?
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Please explain what the spark plug firing has to do with the rings sealing?
Understand that I'm no wrench...it was explained to me that having 4cyl do the work of the other 4 & not having ignition / same combustion heat within those cylinders is what was causing some sort of the failure on the prison rings & was causing some other problems with gaskets leaking...I'm only speaking f what I heard on the 5.3'

The wife's 15 Tahoe has 50k on it & it's been fine. I'm sure if has the gas saver option.
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Iím a Tundra guy and the CrewMax bed is a no go but there is plenty of room in the extended cab and it comes with full size bed!!
Yup. I've got the double cab 4wd with an actual long bed on it..8' (wanted the whole truck). '10 model and it gets 16+ all day long on the hwy trips. I don't do the pretty wheels and big ol tires tho. 4 of us get in it every yr and go to South Dakota huntin and we're comfortable. Crew max is nice but don't be scared of the dbl cab if your gonna use it like an actual pickm up truck.
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That's why I mentioned 5.3 without cylinder deactivation in my post above. I believe the issue has been resolved though.

Here is one way to not have to worry about it, an arm disabled. It keeps it working like the older engines, 8 cylinders all the time. https://rangetechnology.com/afm-disabler/
Our '08 has this. She burns about a quart extra every oil change but just rolled over to 170K! I should prolly just leave er alone.. Couple of electrical gremlins but a great rig otherwise. Momma's lookin' tho.
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This has been proven the LS engine is it Like it or not they are swapped into all the other " best vehicles " Its a sturdy power plane that is not over costly to repair , More after market system for it than all other put together. Used to be the SBC today is the LS . Best to me is not just one thing but many .
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I honestly don't know but I deactivated the gas saving / cylinder skip on my 5.7 Hemi Durango with a tune...you need the spark plug firing every time to keep the rings expanding.

I don't 'think' I had this going on with my 2011 2500 6.0 & thought it was limited to the SUV's with the 5.3??
its done with the lifter , it has half normal lifters and the other half can be turned on or off with oil pressure . Not 100% on the hemi but I would think it is done the same way


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LS-Based Chevy. Edit: GM*



I'm not bashing any of the other offerings as with decent maintenance I'm sure they are all great. Other than maybe the Tundra Longevity Fanboys. They are no doubt good solid trucks but if you really want to research the statistics the 5.3 and 6.0 have the most high mileage motors still on the road.

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Do you have any info to know for sure? I'm looking at a few GMC's with the 5.3 (2013 n up) but a little hesitant after reading this thread.
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