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Old 06-06-2018, 02:05 PM   #1
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I have 2 telescoping 20’ flag poles at the lease in west texas. They’ve been there a year and already starting to wear out. I guess between the constant up and down and the high wind, its just to much for them. In my typical overkill fashion, I want to use some kind of steel pipe and DIY them but really want to go to 30’. Only problem is, I am not sure how to stand it up. No equipment, just redneck muscle. Lol Any suggestions?
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:19 PM   #2
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Could you set it up to pivot at the bottom, using large bolts through an anchored split sleeve?
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:31 PM   #3
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Could you set it up to pivot at the bottom, using large bolts through an anchored split sleeve?
I believe that I would have to. There are two 6” pipe gate post that are concreted into the rock now. I could weld something off the bottom of those.
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:54 PM   #4
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Something like these:

http://www.poletech.com/tiltingpoles.aspx
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Old 06-06-2018, 03:09 PM   #5
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Something along these lines is what I was thinking.
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Old 06-06-2018, 03:31 PM   #6
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By the time you do all that, you could just concrete a piece of pvc in the ground and rent a tow behind boom lift. Have one guy lift the pipe with the boom and the other guide her into the hole in the ground. Should be about $100 for the day rental


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Old 06-06-2018, 03:37 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=FLASH_OUTDOORS;13415758]By the time you do all that, you could just concrete a piece of pvc in the ground and rent a tow behind boom lift. Have one guy lift the pipe with the boom and the other guide her into the hole in the ground. Should be about $100 for the day rental


I just rented one this weekend and it was $250......but stll think you have the best and safest plan
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Old 06-06-2018, 03:40 PM   #8
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By the time you do all that, you could just concrete a piece of pvc in the ground and rent a tow behind boom lift. Have one guy lift the pipe with the boom and the other guide her into the hole in the ground. Should be about $100 for the day rental





I just rented one this weekend and it was $250......but stll think you have the best and safest plan


I may be off a bit in the price and I know all places vary. For the pole you are talking I would use 4” pvc and fill in the void with play sand. Add water to it and once it settles top it off.


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Old 06-06-2018, 05:41 PM   #9
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Make sure you are well away from any overhead power lines too.
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Old 06-07-2018, 09:49 AM   #10
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How tall you want it?

Get a used joint of oilfield tubing, they are about 32ft long.

2 3/8" diameter is 4.70lb/ft and 2 7/8" is 6.50lb/ft.

dig a deep enough hole and man handle it up there.

a joint of 2 3/8" weighs about 150lbs and 2 7/8" about 200lbs
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:39 PM   #11
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How tall you want it?

Get a used joint of oilfield tubing, they are about 32ft long.

2 3/8" diameter is 4.70lb/ft and 2 7/8" is 6.50lb/ft.

dig a deep enough hole and man handle it up there.

a joint of 2 3/8" weighs about 150lbs and 2 7/8" about 200lbs
That’s what I want to use. Do you think I could man handle it to the standing position?
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Old 06-08-2018, 01:21 AM   #12
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I have a flag pole made from a full joint of 2 3/8" topped with a 9" roller cone on each side of my entry way. no way in heck those would have been stood up by hand. one trick I did learn is to put a board in the hole so the pipe rides that when sliding in, if not it just digs into the side of the hole.
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:34 AM   #13
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Old 06-08-2018, 05:09 AM   #14
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I made a hinge out of two 3/8" thick steel plates. 12X12 for the bottom plate and 10x11 for the top plate. I dug a 2' hole with post hole diggers and enlarged the top of the hole to roughly 2' square. Poured a concrete pad and set all thread in it, four to anchor the bottom plate and one to go through both plates acting as a pin. Welded on an 18" long piece of pipe with and I.D. of 2 3/8 to the center of the top plate and put three holes in it lining them up vertically. The top and the bottom holes I went completely through the pipe and the middle hole, I only went through one side and welded a nut to it so I could tighten up any free play there might be. Slid a 20' joint of 2 3/8 O.D. pipe into it and pinned it in place. Used my pickup to stand it upright and a lock washer and nut to bolt it to the all thread sticking up through both plates.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:25 AM   #15
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That’s what I want to use. Do you think I could man handle it to the standing position?
You can, but this is really a two-person job. You can tie a rope about 2/3 the way up and have someone pulling while someone is walking it up.
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:27 AM   #16
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I helped someone do something similar. We used a post hole digger to dig a hole and installed a piece of PVC slightly larger than the pipe in the hole.

To raise the pipe, we tied four ropes about 2/3 of the way up the pole. The 2 ropes in the front spread out at about 30 degrees and each rope had a couple of guys pulling the pipe up and the 2 ropes in the back were spread out and had a guy each to steer and to keep the pole from going past vertical.
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