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Old 06-02-2018, 09:19 AM   #51
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Have you tried or do you have room to drop your motor down an inch? Even though it's a tunnel it sounds like motor is sitting too high. Your prop isn't allowing any lift in the bow. I saw where you redid the floor also, if with the new floor the bow could be too heavy. Redistribute all your loose weight towards the rear of the boat to keep the front as light as possible. 4 blade prop usually gives more bite and bow lift.
The motor cannot sit any lower then it is because of the aftermarket cavitationn plate . If I have it to low thereís a possibility to cause big issues . Iím currently building a raised console for the boats console to sit on top off , so I can put my fuel and batteries under the console . As for he floor being to heavy not saying your wrong but I highly doubt it , itís just marine grade 3/4Ē ply with 2 layers of glass . Iíve actually been told sheís *** heavy I need to put weight forward .
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:56 AM   #52
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The motor cannot sit any lower then it is because of the aftermarket cavitationn plate . If I have it to low thereís a possibility to cause big issues . Iím currently building a raised console for the boats console to sit on top off , so I can put my fuel and batteries under the console . As for he floor being to heavy not saying your wrong but I highly doubt it , itís just marine grade 3/4Ē ply with 2 layers of glass . Iíve actually been told sheís *** heavy I need to put weight forward .
You have any picks. I dont understand your meaning about the cavitation plate limiting the height.
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Old 06-02-2018, 11:48 AM   #53
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Do you have trim tabs on the boat?
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Old 06-02-2018, 05:27 PM   #54
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You have any picks. I dont understand your meaning about the cavitation plate limiting the height.
Iím not sure what picks are . I have a cougar marine play on it if the motor is set to low the plate will be under water and could cause big time issues with the lovwer under , as in ripping it off .
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Old 06-02-2018, 05:27 PM   #55
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Do you have trim tabs on the boat?
No sir I donít . I think my beat bet is a new prop at this point .
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Old 06-02-2018, 06:52 PM   #56
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Sorry about that "picks." I meant pictures of the.cavitation plate in relation to the back of your boat.
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:23 PM   #57
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Have you made sure the tunnel is venting?
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:44 PM   #58
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Sorry about that "picks." I meant pictures of the.cavitation plate in relation to the back of your boat.
Iíll get pics
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:44 PM   #59
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Have you made sure the tunnel is venting?
Iím an idiot but what is that and how do I check ?
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:16 PM   #60
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He said it’s just totally wrong for the type of boat I have . There’s nothing he can do with mine to make it work according to him . Anyone know another good prop guy I can talk to ? Thanks
He's literally one of the top 2 prop guys in texas for skinny water boats. Especially small tunnel boats.

I think You are making a mistake if you don't listen to him based off the price.

If you guy ask some guy that does props for pontoon boats in east texas, it's not going to be the same quality as foreman or Bauman. Those two guys know what they're doing. That's why jack foreman can be an ******* and stay booked up solid with work.

if you buy a new power tech prop, ask them if they'll refund your money, or change out props until it's right.

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Old 06-04-2018, 04:46 PM   #61
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He's literally one of the top 2 prop guys in texas for skinny water boats. Especially small tunnel boats.

I think You are making a mistake if you don't listen to him based off the price.

If you guy ask some guy that does props for pontoon boats in east texas, it's not going to be the same quality as foreman or Bauman. Those two guys know what they're doing. That's why jack foreman can be an ******* and stay booked up solid with work.

if you buy a new power tech prop, ask them if they'll refund your money, or change out props until it's right.
Iím not disagreeing with what he said or that his props arent great he spent 30 min explaining what needed to happen and his opinion on how the boat is rigged and how it should be rigged , but I canít justify the 550$for his prop wish I could .
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Iím an idiot but what is that and how do I check ?
Some tunnels have a vent valve to let out trapped air. Some need a vent valve added, this helps eliminate blowout.
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:12 AM   #63
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$35.00 to cup a 4 blade prop...
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This is why I warned you about Jack being very direct. His props are expensive as in anything on a boat. Once you buy he will make sure you are happy once
you leave. A good prop can make all the difference once you are dialed in. You can have someone add cup for $200 or so but it may or may not help at all depending on what you started with.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:42 PM   #64
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Had the prop cupped at Baumann in Houston , 32.00$ and he did it while I waited . Gonna take it to the lake this weekend and try it out .
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Had the prop cupped at Baumann in Houston , 32.00$ and he did it while I waited . Gonna take it to the lake this weekend and try it out .


You took it to the prop guru. Baumann knows what they are doing.


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Old 06-14-2018, 02:03 PM   #66
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Took the boat out this morning and wow !!! World of difference for sure ..
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Took the boat out this morning and wow !!! World of difference for sure ..
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:52 PM   #68
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Except for the part about no jackplate on a tunnel.
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:02 PM   #69
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Except for the part about no jackplate on a tunnel.
Defeating the point of a tunnel with a jack plate but do what makes u happy

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Old 06-14-2018, 04:04 PM   #70
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I have never known anyone with a tunnel hull boat that didnít run a jack plate.


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Old 06-14-2018, 04:25 PM   #71
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I've owned more tunnel boats then I'd like to admit and what others have said about Louie and Jack are dead on. On smaller tunnel scooters Jack will be a better choice for a custom prop. He may be direct but it will be correct. Louie's quality on rebuilds is hard to touch also. I've tried most of them in the past 25 years. I really hope the added cup will work but have found it's typically a band aid affecting rpm and overall performance. I agree it's costly to buy props but it's the most important piece in the puzzle of running shallow along with a jack plate.
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:09 PM   #72
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I've owned more tunnel boats then I'd like to admit and what others have said about Louie and Jack are dead on. On smaller tunnel scooters Jack will be a better choice for a custom prop. He may be direct but it will be correct. Louie's quality on rebuilds is hard to touch also. I've tried most of them in the past 25 years. I really hope the added cup will work but have found it's typically a band aid affecting rpm and overall performance. I agree it's costly to buy props but it's the most important piece in the puzzle of running shallow along with a jack plate.
Itís a band aid for sure , it still needs a prop for sure but the jump in performance and handling I got from spending the 35$ was worth it . Now I can go full throttle and Iím not cavitating and I can also trim the motor to get the bow up , rides so much better it doesnít feel itís plowing through the water now .. If anything it will buy me some time to get some cash together for either one of jacks or a over the counter . Before the boat was almost unusable unless it was pretty calm out , if there was any chop it was ridiculous ..
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:51 PM   #73
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UyjRCv2omg

Jack Foreman 3 blade on a 19' SW Cat. Jack is the best in the business, pony up the cash and get back to having fun
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I have never known anyone with a tunnel hull boat that didnít run a jack plate.


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That don't make it right.

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Old 06-14-2018, 10:26 PM   #75
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Itís a band aid for sure , it still needs a prop for sure but the jump in performance and handling I got from spending the 35$ was worth it . Now I can go full throttle and Iím not cavitating and I can also trim the motor to get the bow up , rides so much better it doesnít feel itís plowing through the water now .. If anything it will buy me some time to get some cash together for either one of jacks or a over the counter . Before the boat was almost unusable unless it was pretty calm out , if there was any chop it was ridiculous ..
Glad it got you going which is all that really matters anyway.
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Old 06-15-2018, 05:32 AM   #76
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That don't make it right.

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Please explain why it best not to run a jack plate on a tunnel hull boat?


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Please explain why it best not to run a jack plate on a tunnel hull boat?


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Obviously the tunnel is designed to put maximum amount of water to your lower unit. Tunnels are also designed with a high transom so that you can run your motor high therefore allowing you to run in very shallow water with maximum water flow from the tunnel. Jack plate is designed to offer the same, or close to, shallow running abilities on a regular, no tunnel boat with a standard transom by putting the motor far enough behind the boat to catch the "hump" of water that rises behind the flat bottom boat allowing for the motor to be run much higher than just sitting on the transom, thus giving you much shallower running capabilities. On a tunnel, you're already running your engine high enough that your prop shaft is above the bottom of the boat. There is no need for a jack plate, it's already designed to run high and shallow, the whole point of having a tunnel.
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Obviously the tunnel is designed to put maximum amount of water to your lower unit. Tunnels are also designed with a high transom so that you can run your motor high therefore allowing you to run in very shallow water with maximum water flow from the tunnel. Jack plate is designed to offer the same, or close to, shallow running abilities on a regular, no tunnel boat with a standard transom by putting the motor far enough behind the boat to catch the "hump" of water that rises behind the flat bottom boat allowing for the motor to be run much higher than just sitting on the transom, thus giving you much shallower running capabilities. On a tunnel, you're already running your engine high enough that your prop shaft is above the bottom of the boat. There is no need for a jack plate, it's already designed to run high and shallow, the whole point of having a tunnel.


So by this logic this boat would have the same performance without the jackplate as it does with it?



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So by this logic this boat would have the same performance without the jackplate as it does with it?



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We were discussing 16' foot boats with a 50hp I believe. I don't remember what boat exactly it is but I assumed it was an aluminum john boat. That is not exactly apples to oranges comparison. I admit my assumption may be wrong. I am running a 16 foot flat bottom with a jack plate that has 12" of set back so that I can run shallow similar to a tunnel on a john boat like mine. On a big boat that you have pictured, yes, a power jack plate with not much set back will indeed be a plus. I digress, I don't know what I'm talking about, you win, have an awesome weekend.
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[QUOTE=Duckologist;13430786]That don't make it right.

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It's pretty obvious you don't have a clue what your talking about when it comes to tunnel hulls and jack plates.
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It's pretty obvious you don't have a clue what your talking about when it comes to tunnel hulls and jack plates.
Words out of my mouth exactly. You will never fully utilize the benefits of a tunnel without a jack plate. When maximizing the engine height you ultimately effect other areas of performance such as water pressure, turning, and deep water cavitation when rough to name a few.

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Words out of my mouth exactly. You will never fully utilize the benefits of a tunnel without a jack plate. When maximizing the engine height you ultimately effect other areas of performance such as water pressure, turning, and deep water cavitation when rough to name a few.

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Thanks, it belongs to my dad he just had it refurbished.

It was an illustration to prove a point and I believe it did the job.


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Old 06-15-2018, 03:14 PM   #84
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Only guys I know that don’t have them just can’t afford them . It’s not a knock on them and a hey look at me because it took me awhile to get the funds to buy one .. 99% of the boats you see down on the Texas coast have one especially the ones with tunnel hulls . Jack FORMAN said it’s a nessecity and he’s regarded as one of the best around .
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Only guys I know that donít have them just canít afford them . Itís not a knock on them and a hey look at me because it took me awhile to get the funds to buy one .. 99% of the boats you see down on the Texas coast have one especially the ones with tunnel hulls . Jack FORMAN said itís a nessecity and heís regarded as one of the best around .


Same here. I have a manual now ran all the way up on my tunnel. In order to reach full potential of a tunnel a Jackplate is a must! I canít wait to get our next boat with hydraulics!


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